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[PenguinPower]

huh...that bbcode changes all the text...weird

[PenguinPower]

woo

[Menalque]

I think it’s pretty likely, but gobbles was a fairly safe wagon to be on given the SK claim-retraction so it’s not as safe an assumption as it would be had that not happened

[Something_Smart]

Oh, someone should ask if JK targetting the SMan making the kill would stop the kill. It *should* but I don't want to assume and be bitten.

No it shouldn't? Aren't strongman kills immune to being roleblocked?

[Something_Smart]

Sad Penguin Says: Sorry mena...I was a bit over the top last night

I just don't see how you believe what you are saying about my play given that you know me and what you're asserting is pretty antithetical to my actual play, so it comes across as disingenuous and manufactured and I don't see why town!mena does that.

UNVOTE:

mechanics and stuff blah blah blah

LOL

[ofrhz]

He's either crumbing a tracker or JK. If tracker, then MafJOAT me would have had to ninja kill the claimed PR with evidence of a protective, not rb'd a claimed PR with evidence of a protective, or holster and not Strongman with evidence of a protective and a claimed vig who scumread me. Datisi is less conclusive because ninja kill N1 makes perfect sense with no setup knowledge.

If JK, it's even less conclusive because ambiguity of roleblock/protect, but the JOAT is more likely to perform the kill than a goon which makes it slightly clearing.

Bingle is correct.

@ofhrz, would a jailkeep stop a strongman?

No

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 3.2

PenguinPower [2]:

Menalque [3748], Datisi [3943]

Bingle [1]:

Blake Belladonna [3650]

Datisi [1]:

MariaR [3783]

Not Voting [4]:

Bingle, Something_Smart, Almost50, PenguinPower [3949]

With

8

alive, it takes

5

to hammer.
Day 3 ends in

(expired on 2020-07-08 16:00:00)

Game Notes:

Blake Belladonna v/la

[Menalque]

Sad Penguin Says: Sorry mena...I was a bit over the top last night

I just don't see how you believe what you are saying about my play given that you know me and what you're asserting is pretty antithetical to my actual play, so it comes across as disingenuous and manufactured and I don't see why town!mena does that.

UNVOTE:

mechanics and stuff blah blah blah

Apology accepted, and I’m sorry if I, in my turn, got a bit too frustrated about the situation.

I don’t know what you think I should be seeing in your play that I’m not, if you think that you’re obviously town, and I don’t get the sense that you’re town that I have in other semi-recent games (I wanna say post-apocalyptic maybe? Definitely in tris’ mini normal, but is there a more recent mini we’ve done since then where I correctly TR you).

I stand by the fact that (Blake, me, bingle) should all be cleared from everyone’s perspective — fypov, that leaves scum in (datisi, S_S, maria, A50). I think if you’re town then you should be trying to sort within those names to find scum, bearing in mind that I don’t find any of them compelling as scum apart from maybe datisi, and regarding her I still think she’s less likely to be scum because of mechanics.

[Menalque]

I’d really like to hear from Blake.

[PenguinPower]

Why is Bingle cleared?

I'm not the one that can explain why you should be seeing me as town, especially if you don't, but may you can listen to Maria or A50.

[Something_Smart]

The logic for Bingle being cleared is that it's crazy for scum to use neither strongman nor roleblock last night, when they already had a missed kill. This is assuming that they did have a missed kill, but that seems pretty likely to me. The only thing I can think of is that they might have seen what they thought was a PR soft from PB, but it must have been pretty convincing because PB was pretty widely scumread.

[PenguinPower]

Ah, because of Mena's role.

[Something_Smart]

Yeah.

I'm assuming Menalque is tracker because the things that he's said are really only consistent with that.

[PenguinPower]

I don't see how that clears Datisi though.

[Datisi]

it's called a "soft"clear for a reason.

[PenguinPower]

It's not a clear at all though.

[Datisi]

it is.

a very shitty one, considering the last scum is a JOAT who would be somewhat likely to do a Ninja kill on Night 1.

but it's somewhat of a clear.

[Menalque]

Well, we know datisi didn’t make the kill on N1 in the case that I’m the JK which seems unlikely given she’d have to be the JOAT or in the case that I’m the tracker we know she made the kill with ninja N1.

[Menalque]

The logic for Bingle being cleared is that it's crazy for scum to use neither strongman nor roleblock last night, when they already had a missed kill. This is assuming that they did have a missed kill, but that seems pretty likely to me. The only thing I can think of is that they might have seen what they thought was a PR soft from PB, but it must have been pretty convincing because PB was pretty widely scumread.

Or, in the case that I’m a jail keeper, it means that firebringer made the kill.

[PenguinPower]

Ok...but that's not a clear. A shitty clear is not a clear.

We're going to talk in circles about this if it continues.

[Menalque]

S_S what do you think about who’s scum? Not just mechanics but who do you think is scum by play at this point?

[PenguinPower]

Well, we know datisi didn’t make the kill on N1 in the case that I’m the JK which seems unlikely given she’d have to be the JOAT or in the case that I’m the tracker we know she made the kill with ninja N1.

?

There wasn't a scum kill N1, right? If you jk'd Datisi n1 then...that would be suspicious.

[Menalque]

Oh fuck it, I’m a tracker, I don’t think the added ambiguity is that helpful at this point

[Datisi]

Well, we know datisi didn’t make the kill on N1 in the case that I’m the JK which seems unlikely given she’d have to be the JOAT or in the case that I’m the tracker we know she made the kill with ninja N1.

if you jailkept me on night 1, lynch me immediately because i'm gonna be a huge question mark until it's resolved.

pedit: lmao thank you

[Datisi]

Ok...but that's not a clear. A shitty clear is not a clear.

We're going to talk in circles about this if it continues.

do you think i'm scum or is this just a semantics discussion?