Open 781: JK9++ Game Over!

[PenguinPower]

I don't know. It's not a semantics discussion though...I don't think you should be removed from the pool because of a N1 tracker result.

[Menalque]

It will be a travesty if skitt and I both finally rolled town and PRs and we didn’t end up getting horrendously paranoid of each other and we still don’t win

[Menalque]

@bingle and @S_S I’d like to hear from both of you on whether you think it would be optimal for scum to make a kill using ninja on N1 or to save that for later

I’d also like to hear what you think based on play

MariaR, why do you think datisi is scum and why do you think PP is town?

[Datisi]

I don't know. It's not a semantics discussion though...I don't think you should be removed from the pool because of a N1 tracker result.

nobody is arguing i'm completely removed from the pool because of a no move on n1.

[PenguinPower]

I don't think you should be any level of removed from it.

[Datisi]

He's either crumbing a tracker or JK. If tracker, then MafJOAT me would have had to ninja kill the claimed PR with evidence of a protective, not rb'd a claimed PR with evidence of a protective, or holster and not Strongman with evidence of a protective and a claimed vig who scumread me. Datisi is less conclusive because

ninja kill N1 makes perfect sense with no setup knowledge.

@mena

[Menalque]

Thanks dats

[Something_Smart]

I don't see how that clears Datisi though.

It doesn't.

[Menalque]

S_S what do you think about who’s scum? Not just mechanics but who do you think is scum by play at this point?

@bingle and @S_S I’d like to hear from both of you on whether you think it would be optimal for scum to make a kill using ninja on N1 or to save that for later

I’d also like to hear what you think based on play

MariaR, why do you think datisi is scum and why do you think PP is town?

[Something_Smart]

@bingle and @S_S I’d like to hear from both of you on whether you think it would be optimal for scum to make a kill using ninja on N1 or to save that for later

Well, we can assume that they didn't use strongman on N1. Using the roleblock without any PR claims sounds silly. So either they used the ninja, or they didn't use any JOAT powers and probably the JOAT wouldn't have been the one to make the kill.

I would probably say it isn't optimal since the odds of the tracker finding you on N1 are very low, but it is plausible. But regardless Datisi is definitely not cleared.

[Something_Smart]

S_S what do you think about who’s scum? Not just mechanics but who do you think is scum by play at this point?

I mean, it doesn't really matter at this point? I still think A50 is town, so that just leaves Datisi, Maria, and PP, none of which I have strong feelings on, but from my POV if we kill all three it's most likely a win.

[Menalque]

What order should we kill them in?

[Menalque]

Btw even if we get consensus here we’re not ending day before Blake gets back

[Datisi]

S_S what do you think about who’s scum? Not just mechanics but who do you think is scum by play at this point?

I mean, it doesn't really matter at this point? I still think A50 is town, so that just leaves Datisi, Maria, and PP, none of which I have strong feelings on, but from my POV if we kill all three it's most likely a win.

except it does matter? even if we collectively agree a50 is town, it's still a pool of 4, where we have 3 lynches. saying "fmpov kill all 3" is not exactly helpful?

[PenguinPower]

I think datisi>ss wins the game.

Datisi comes across as more of a partner to lilith and warmpup than SS, but I can see SS having potential.

A50/Maria are just town. Blake and Mena are apparently mech cleared (and Bingle via Mena).

[Blake Belladonna]

I would like everybody to explicitly claim PR or not PR please.

[PenguinPower]

Not PR

[Datisi]

not PR.

[Bingle]

I have a post restriction where I have to say something ban able in each post and if I don’t I get forced to keep playing mafia.

[PenguinPower]

I have a post restriction where I have to say something ban able in each post and if I don’t I get forced to keep playing mafia.

[Something_Smart]

except it does matter? even if we collectively agree a50 is town, it's still a pool of 4, where we have 3 lynches. saying "fmpov kill all 3" is not exactly helpful?

I mean what am I gonna say, that you should kill me? We can cross that bridge if we come to it, but ideally we won't have to.

Confirming that I am not a galaxybrain PR.

[Bingle]

He's either crumbing a tracker or JK. If tracker, then MafJOAT me would have had to ninja kill the claimed PR with evidence of a protective, not rb'd a claimed PR with evidence of a protective, or holster and not Strongman with evidence of a protective and a claimed vig who scumread me. Datisi is less conclusive because

ninja kill N1 makes perfect sense with no setup knowledge.

@mena

I would. SS is right that you’re unlikely to be caught be a tracker N1 but you also actually want to get the utility out of the role and the odds that there’s a tracker and they’ll survive and the JoaT will survive are all pretty low tbh.

The takeaway, though, is that neither rb not sman get used N1 and the JOAT never makes a vanilla kill N1, so the track result is actually pretty useless.

[Bingle]

Oh, someone should ask if JK targetting the SMan making the kill would stop the kill. It *should* but I don't want to assume and be bitten.

No it shouldn't? Aren't strongman kills immune to being roleblocked?

Huh, apparently they are. That’s annoying. It is fairly likely that sman was used to kill skitts though, so that’s still somewhat helpful.

[Blake Belladonna]

I’d really like to hear from Blake.

What would you like to hear from me?

[ofrhz]

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