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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:16 am

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specially since a 4 poster arrived at a whoping L-2 24 hrs after his last post in a succesion of , and (being BM, superbowl and cj)
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:19 am

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actually
VOTE: superbowl
i didnt comment in deep at the time (i did feint on ) but his vote on is terrible; it seems he is trying to justify his hop, and ends up way too artifitial, as in trying to justify an attitude he is taking on an otherwise "weird way". I am doubting ur honesty here, sir.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:22 am

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In post 328, Marashu wrote:
In post 244, Tuxedo Mask wrote: Because I am unsure of other's reputation, but Drew's is to be scum read. So the current state is an abnormality, I am trying to identify why. Is the abnormality in their play, or in how other's treat them? Is that abnormality nefarious?
I think I see. You're basically saying that, if Drew hasn't changed, then it could be that mafia is not only not framing him but is actively pushing him as town? From the fact that you are townreading Drew, does this mean you think that they are trying to pocket him?
In post 248, Tuxedo Mask wrote: Nothing strong so far, which doesn't feel great. I think I'm getting townie pings from Votato, Drew, Deimos and Midari. Those are the only things strong enough to mention.
Could you explain the townping on Midari?
That could be an explanation, or they thought Drew could get his own wagon going without scum influence. Honestly, I don't have an explanation I feel strongly about at the moment.

I liked how they handled their wagon, and they had some posts that I liked tonally. But I wouldn't currently consider them in my town list.

Pedit: Word get back here and push my wagon.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:22 am

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In post 351, word321 wrote:actually
VOTE: superbowl
i didnt comment in deep at the time (i did feint on ) but his vote on is terrible; it seems he is trying to justify his hop, and ends up way too artifitial, as in trying to justify an attitude he is taking on an otherwise "weird way". I am doubting ur honesty here, sir.
looks to me like he's basically random voting here. Not saying that means he's town, but I think calling it "terrible" is a stretch, and you're overthinking it here. I'm sure your heart is in the right place though.

It would be easier if you just joined the Marashu train before it leaves the station.
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:23 am

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Tux, vote Marashu and save my ass again! :D
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:26 am

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I liked that Tux accepted a real time interaction with me and I liked how he was approaching Midari. I also changed my mind about the way he was flinging his vote around and decided that scum is actually typically quite loathe to do that due to self-awareness about voting patterns.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:28 am

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In post 354, Battle Mage wrote:Tux, vote Marashu and save my ass again! :D
Save your ass from what? I think you guys are handling it well. Also, I think I'm going to hold onto my vote a little longer, give some of the none entities time to post. But if I was to do it right now, I'd toss it on Midira.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:29 am

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In post 355, Deimos27 wrote:I liked that Tux accepted a real time interaction with me and I liked how he was approaching Midari. I also changed my mind about the way he was flinging his vote around and decided that scum is actually typically quite loathe to do that due to self-awareness about voting patterns.
good job mate, I like this.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:31 am

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I think word has a point on superbowl. That justification was so weak that the wagon hop comes off as extremely artificial.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:33 am

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All three of those slots are pretty good for pressure atm. Pi, Marashu, superbowl.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:34 am

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In post 275, superbowl9 wrote:I'll read through this RVS soon and if there's anything worth pushing
I've been waiting on further engagement since this
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:36 am

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In post 358, Deimos27 wrote:I think word has a point on superbowl. That justification was so weak that the wagon hop comes off as extremely artificial.
On second thought superbowl literally says "wagon hop" in that post so I think he's aware that he's just shifting for the pressure wagon and the reasoning isn't meant to be deep, which weakens the tell.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:39 am

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In post 358, Deimos27 wrote:I think word has a point on superbowl. That justification was so weak that the wagon hop comes off as extremely artificial.
I don't see it dude. The justification was weak, and scarcely more than a random vote to wagon - which in itself, I don't find objectionable. If he was pitching it as a super serious vote, I'd be more interested. I'm not convinced everyone else had amazing reasons for voting pi either, as they'd probably only visited the BM school of scumhunting on one of our Open Days, rather than attending an accredited course.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:40 am

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In post 361, Deimos27 wrote:
In post 358, Deimos27 wrote:I think word has a point on superbowl. That justification was so weak that the wagon hop comes off as extremely artificial.
On second thought superbowl literally says "wagon hop" in that post so I think he's aware that he's just shifting for the pressure wagon and the reasoning isn't meant to be deep, which weakens the tell.
ah you beat me to the punch, but yes this.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 356, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 354, Battle Mage wrote:Tux, vote Marashu and save my ass again! :D
Save your ass from what? I think you guys are handling it well. Also, I think I'm going to hold onto my vote a little longer, give some of the none entities time to post. But if I was to do it right now, I'd toss it on Midira.
I was referring to our previous game together, and hoping we could re-kindle our victorious partnership (where you essentially won us the game). :lol:
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:41 am

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pi havent posted for 3 days, i dnt think we r hearing from him on the near time.

i can wrap my hear around ur change of perception on tuxedo for his development since 237. but I still think superbowls vote wasnt exactly rvs. I did the exact same thing on This post of Large Normal 227; and a simple glance at his topics on the site indicate a lack of mafia pts, wich means few or none experience with scum (at least on this site).
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:46 am

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Yeah I get the main point. Scum tend to be self-conscious about their votes and feel the need to give justification, plus superbowl's justification was straight up bad so it checks with a contrived scum agenda. In this case it looks close enough to a RVS style townie pressure/momentum hop that I don't consider the tell all that strong, but it's sufficient to make him a good slot for pressure. I'm not super impressed by superbowl's content so far anyway.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:48 am

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In post 365, word321 wrote:pi havent posted for 3 days, i dnt think we r hearing from him on the near time.

i can wrap my hear around ur change of perception on tuxedo for his development since 237. but I still think superbowls vote wasnt exactly rvs. I did the exact same thing on This post of Large Normal 227; and a simple glance at his topics on the site indicate a lack of mafia pts, wich means few or none experience with scum (at least on this site).
this is town vibes for me.

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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:51 am

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In post 367, Battle Mage wrote:
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Doctor Drew
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:53 am

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In post 364, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 356, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 354, Battle Mage wrote:Tux, vote Marashu and save my ass again! :D
Save your ass from what? I think you guys are handling it well. Also, I think I'm going to hold onto my vote a little longer, give some of the none entities time to post. But if I was to do it right now, I'd toss it on Midira.
I was referring to our previous game together, and hoping we could re-kindle our victorious partnership (where you essentially won us the game). :lol:
Yeah, I got that, but are you trying to find out if I'm a PR again?
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:58 am

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In post 369, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 364, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 356, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 354, Battle Mage wrote:Tux, vote Marashu and save my ass again! :D
Save your ass from what? I think you guys are handling it well. Also, I think I'm going to hold onto my vote a little longer, give some of the none entities time to post. But if I was to do it right now, I'd toss it on Midira.
I was referring to our previous game together, and hoping we could re-kindle our victorious partnership (where you essentially won us the game). :lol:
Yeah, I got that, but are you trying to find out if I'm a PR again?
....erm, no? what would give you that idea? :facepalm:

I'm simply keen to enlist your vote to help put pressure on Marashu, and also to see if you can join my townbloc of awesomeness.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:02 pm

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In post 370, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 369, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 364, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 356, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 354, Battle Mage wrote:Tux, vote Marashu and save my ass again! :D
Save your ass from what? I think you guys are handling it well. Also, I think I'm going to hold onto my vote a little longer, give some of the none entities time to post. But if I was to do it right now, I'd toss it on Midira.
I was referring to our previous game together, and hoping we could re-kindle our victorious partnership (where you essentially won us the game). :lol:
Yeah, I got that, but are you trying to find out if I'm a PR again?
....erm, no? what would give you that idea? :facepalm:

I'm simply keen to enlist your vote to help put pressure on Marashu, and also to see if you can join my town block of awesomeness.
That's what I hope, but this being when and how you try to interact with me feels off. Like when you say specifically for me to "save you again" and saying "I won the game" when both of those things only happened because I was the Jailkeeper feels very weird to me. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but you're just giving me the hibbie jibbies right now.

VOTE: Battle Mage
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:09 pm

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ok, tuxedo may be town; i rly dnt see that being pulled out by scum
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:19 pm

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In post 371, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 370, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 369, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 364, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 356, Tuxedo Mask wrote:
In post 354, Battle Mage wrote:Tux, vote Marashu and save my ass again! :D
Save your ass from what? I think you guys are handling it well. Also, I think I'm going to hold onto my vote a little longer, give some of the none entities time to post. But if I was to do it right now, I'd toss it on Midira.
I was referring to our previous game together, and hoping we could re-kindle our victorious partnership (where you essentially won us the game). :lol:
Yeah, I got that, but are you trying to find out if I'm a PR again?
....erm, no? what would give you that idea? :facepalm:

I'm simply keen to enlist your vote to help put pressure on Marashu, and also to see if you can join my town block of awesomeness.
That's what I hope, but this being when and how you try to interact with me feels off. Like when you say specifically for me to "save you again" and saying "I won the game" when both of those things only happened because I was the Jailkeeper feels very weird to me. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but you're just giving me the hibbie jibbies right now.

VOTE: Battle Mage
You're probably just paranoid about me (again) :giggle:

Those things did only happen because you were jailkeeper, but hey I'm not ungrateful! My town win rate needs all the help it can get!

If you think me referring to our only other shared game as a symbol of our bond, where you happened to be a PR, is me fishing for your role here...I dunno what to tell ya! :yawn:
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:21 pm

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In post 372, word321 wrote:ok, tuxedo may be town; i rly dnt see that being pulled out by scum
his vote on me? I'm pretty neutral on it. Instinctively it feels townie, but I saw scum pull literally the same move on me in a recent completed game of mine.
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