Micro 952 - The Coalition: ItGBSMoD [game over!]

[SleeperSoul]

All I know rn is that scum is playing well and that annoys me.

What is the purpose of this statement?

[Deimos27]

No other purpose than to express my annoyance with how difficult a solve this game is

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Accepting that your case has a gaping hole in it and not defending that isn't going to cut it for me, pooky. Your here defense is that "my case isn't swiss cheese because swiss cheese has multiple holes in it but my case has one big hole in it"

you called my case full of holes like swiss cheese and you already exposed a gaping one. I'm still waiting for it.

as in I'm waiting for the gaping hole he says he found...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Why does Klick/Koba/Sleeper-town necessitate a scum in Pooky/Deimos/Don? There are seven town.

because if Deimos/Don/Pooky/Sleeper/Klick aka the original coalition was all-town - then someone on the off-coalition scum team should be fighting to get in it because if they don't fight to get on it, they just auto-lose.

Now in my original read of the game - this scum is Kona.

If the current consensus is right that Kona is town and the present towncore of Klick/Sleeper/Kona is pure-Town then where are the scum trying to fight to get on the wagon? ~ they would have to be on the leftovers of the original coalition - Pooky-DC-Deimos.

I don't believe the scum just opened the game and decided to hide underground and let the town waltz to a win so either we have scum who have given up on the game or we are wrong about something.

[Alduskkel]

do you think koba is scum or do you just have issues with them as a player?

pedit: scum can have egos, and I don't see town confbiasing THIS hard on reads they formed THAT early.

Stop it, get out of my head probscum

why am i probscum

I'm bored of this already

you're using the 1000 questions defense in which you ignore the attack and just distract with a bunch of

random

questions until the thread of the argument is lost and the post count is too long for anyone else to follow.

I don't mean his questions are random or non-game relevant. That's a very silly way to read my post.

:thonk:

@Koba: You missed some questions I asked you in 965.

[SleeperSoul]

Accepting that your case has a gaping hole in it and not defending that isn't going to cut it for me, pooky. Your here defense is that "my case isn't swiss cheese because swiss cheese has multiple holes in it but my case has one big hole in it"

you called my case full of holes like swiss cheese and you already exposed a gaping one. I'm still waiting for it.

as in I'm waiting for the gaping hole he says he found...

okay, I thought you meant you were waiting for more holes.... but I'm still not convinced I should co you as of now, because to me koba's points on you make sense.

[Klick]

I've addressed that in an earlier response; that's a general heuristic of scum play, when in reality when you look at the players on the outside of both of those coalitions (Clover/Aldus/TuxWug) you find that for at least the former two, 'fighting' to get into the towncore would likely be against their nature even if they are scum.
Alternatively, scum just... weren't that threatened by an unsubstantiated D1 coalition and didn't think it would survive.

(As for my personal opinion, I think scum is likely TuxWug and either you or Deimos, with Aldus being a pretty null slot that potentially slots into a team with any of you)

PEdit @Aldus: unlike Clover, I'm starved for reasons to think you're town. When you and DkKoba were arguing with Pooky earlier, I found I kept agreeing with things you were saying but didn't get the sense you

cared

very much about the sensible things you were saying. Dunno if that makes sense. Basically I don't have a decent enough reason to consider you for a coalition right now.

[Klick]

Klick, do you think Tux/Wug + Aldus is a possible team here? Doesn't really have the explanatory power I'm looking for but I still can't find a scumread off the original coalition.

I don't see why not. The idea that 'there was no resistance to the original coalition' has been thrown around a bit, but if you look at Tux/Aldus' early content, both of them attempt to disrupt the coalition in a lowkey way (and they both choose to suspect Pooky in particular on the coalition).

Actually yeah this looks decently likely now that I'm thinking about it?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

okay, I thought you meant you were waiting for more holes.... but I'm still not convinced I should co you as of now, because to me koba's points on you make sense.

if your read is that I'm waiting for "more holes" then what is the original hole that Koba exposed but I did not address?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think koba is scum or do you just have issues with them as a player?

pedit: scum can have egos, and I don't see town confbiasing THIS hard on reads they formed THAT early.

Stop it, get out of my head probscum

why am i probscum

I'm bored of this already

you're using the 1000 questions defense in which you ignore the attack and just distract with a bunch of

random

questions until the thread of the argument is lost and the post count is too long for anyone else to follow.

I don't mean his questions are random or non-game relevant. That's a very silly way to read my post.

:thonk:

@Koba: You missed some questions I asked you in 965.

When I said Koba was attacking with random questions - I do not mean his questions are randomy and pointless - I mean they have a specific purpose but they are irrelevant to the line of conversation we were on.

[DkKoba]

Sleeper I literally put Pooky in as locktown so if my points made sense then you should 100% want him in your coalition

and to aldu's question: thought it was rhetorical since you followed that up with a statement but id rather eliminate "likely" scumteams early on (i.e. find people who seem paired, not as in buddying but as in scumpaired if you know what I mean).

I don't like that people are trying to hardfocus on pooky's bad tunnel, its fairly blatant town ego from my point of view, so if you do townread me then you should trust me. there's no way you're getting an explanation out of pooky I'm guessing even if you were to put him at L-1 if the coalition fails.

[DkKoba]

Hi, I haven’t really been enjoying this game or been able to get into it really

I’ll try to do a reread today and to say who I think the coalition should be

any update on this?

[Alduskkel]

hmm okay i think i understand what you're saying now. but why do you think sleeper/deimos looks like scum theater?

[DkKoba]

also pooky if you're willing to read me in good faith and discuss things I will talk but I'm going to continue to ignore anything you say about me and not respond to it until you agree to have a conversation and not just a conf bias 1 way dialogue

[DkKoba]

I said that earlier bc I got the vibe that deimos was just doing that light pokey thing that scum like to do with eachother to make it seem like they aren't teamed/are independent while not making substantial moves against eachother

but after doing a dual ISO of them i figured it was not likely

[SleeperSoul]

sorry koba, I misunderstood... In that case, pooky should be in the coalition.

D'oh!

HEAL: pooky

go ahead and take me out now for being a moron lol

[SleeperSoul]

I mean, originally you were scumpinging pooky, though..... that's part of what was making me paranoid of him as I mentioned yesterday.

[Datisi]

Vote count 1.26

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-07 13:00:00)

coalition

PookyTheMagicalBear [5]:

Deimos27, SleeperSoul, DonCorleone, PookyTheMagicalBear, Klick

Alduskkel [5]:

Alduskkel, Klick, SleeperSoul, DkKoba, Deimos27

SleeperSoul [5]:

SleeperSoul, Deimos27, Klick, DKoba, PookyTheMagicalBear

DkKoba [4]:

DkKoba, PookyTheMagicalBear, Klick, SleeperSoul

Deimos27 [4]:

Deimos27, Klick, Wug, SleeperSoul

Klick [4]:

Klick, SleeperSoul, Clover Ebi, DonCorleone

Wug [3]:

Wug, Deimos27, Klick

DonCorleone [0]:

Clover Ebi [0]:

lynch

SleeperSoul (1):

Deimos27

Wug (1):

DonCorleone

PookyTheMagicalBear (1):

Alduskkel

not voting (6):

Klick, Clover Ebi, SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear, Wug, DkKoba

flavour

mod notes

• i was gonna wait for a pagetop, but i'm so tired...
  
• Play nice.

[Klick]

I don't like that people are trying to hardfocus on pooky's bad tunnel, its fairly blatant town ego from my point of view, so if you do townread me then you should trust me.

You can be town and also wrong.
I'm focusing on the tunnel because it's the most significant chunk of his game and I'm trying to read him.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also pooky if you're willing to read me in good faith and discuss things I will talk but I'm going to continue to ignore anything you say about me and not respond to it until you agree to have a conversation and not just a conf bias 1 way dialogue

I'm not going to trust you until I figure out who the rat on the original coalition is

[DkKoba]

anyone else agree that tuxedo/wug slot is most definitely scum

[DkKoba]

I've been mulling it over but I feel good enough that i can be like "yeah thats scum" based on both people in that slot's behavior.

[DkKoba]

I will ellaborate tomorrow though cause im super sleep deprived rn good night (:

[Klick]

That's about where I'm at yeah.

[Datisi]

Prodding Wug.