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Post Post #4225 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:07 am

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In post 4223, Menalque wrote:Thanks ofhrz!
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I assume they parsed your question wrong. The answer is the tracker would see the visit.
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Post Post #4226 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:08 am

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Oh, I actually didn’t mean to be sarcastic there, I thought that’s what she was saying by yup
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Post Post #4227 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:09 am

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In post 4224, Something_Smart wrote:Well, I'm assuming that Blake stopped the NK, but it wouldn't be conclusive whether she targeted the person who attempted the NK or the target of it. She could easily have targeted Bingle and saved him from a kill.
Okay so... who do you think would kill bingle N1 > Blake/skitter of the people still alive?
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Post Post #4228 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:36 am

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In post 4226, Menalque wrote:Oh, I actually didn’t mean to be sarcastic there, I thought that’s what she was saying by yup
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Post Post #4229 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:45 am

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In post 4227, Menalque wrote:Okay so... who do you think would kill bingle N1 > Blake/skitter of the people still alive?
I don't think anyone here actively WOULDN'T do that. Looking back at his reads he had PP in his lowest tier of townreads and A50's slot in his PoE, so probably a slight preference for A50 there but nothing conclusive.

If he was targeted, it probably was in part because he was a strong player, but it was not purely because he was a strong player because yeah I would probably have expected that kill to fall on Blake. So it's a lot more complicated than just "he wouldn't be targeted over Blake or skitter unless scum had a specific reason to want him dead."
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Post Post #4230 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:46 am

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But he also had both flipped scum in his PoE, so he could have been targeted for having accurate reads even if his PP read was wrong.
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Post Post #4231 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:48 am

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In post 4230, Something_Smart wrote:But he also had both flipped scum in his PoE, so he could have been targeted for having accurate reads even if his PP read was wrong.
Only I think both skitter and Blake had that too and I would say had more currency in controlling how the game was being run than bingle did at that point too
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Post Post #4232 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:56 am

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In post 4225, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4223, Menalque wrote:Thanks ofhrz!
lmao

I assume they parsed your question wrong. The answer is the tracker would see the visit.
Oh whoops :facepalm:

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Post Post #4233 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:58 am

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I don't know why we're assuming Blake JK'd Bingle on N1. That post Menalque quoted says Bingle did have the chance to kill Blake. Otherwise, it wouldn't even make sense that Blake says Bingle didn't kill her (if she did deny him the chance to do it).

In fact, I think Blake was implying she JK'd someone NOT-Bingle and thus her being alive worked in Bingle's favour from her PoV.

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Post Post #4234 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:58 am

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In post 4231, Menalque wrote:Only I think both skitter and Blake had that too and I would say had more currency in controlling how the game was being run than bingle did at that point too
I don't know about skitter but I think Blake was somewhat suspected at that point.

Regardless I think getting this far in the weeds on who scum is likely to kill is probably a bad idea. Bingle is a strong player, he had good reads, he was a possible NK target. Maybe not the likeliest but we can't know what the scum were thinking; maybe they thought Blake and/or skitter would be mislynchable, or they would push who the scum wanted, or they thought Bingle was a PR, or something else.
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Post Post #4235 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:29 am

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In post 4233, Almost50 wrote:I don't know why we're assuming Blake JK'd Bingle on N1. That post Menalque quoted says Bingle did have the chance to kill Blake. Otherwise, it wouldn't even make sense that Blake says Bingle didn't kill her (if she did deny him the chance to do it).

In fact, I think Blake was implying she JK'd someone NOT-Bingle and thus her being alive worked in Bingle's favour from her PoV.
I think this is highly unlikely. I don’t think Blake would talk about bingle specifically in reference to the jk, when she hadn’t made it clear the day before. This says to me (especially given her phrasing) that she was moving bingle up on the assumption that someone had tried to kill him, but that there was the possibility that she’d stopped the kill in the sense that she’d blocked the scum who was making it.
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Post Post #4236 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:31 am

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I think it’s very relevant to discuss when we have a missing NK, a crumbed jailkeep on bingle, and we’re deciding who to lynch.
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Post Post #4237 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:34 pm

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Again, I would never risk both the vig who suspected me and my remaining partner and the protection netting town another lynch. I would always have used a role to be able to stop one of those, and I provably didn't use either.

A50 is doing spectacular mental gymnastics to make it seem like that's not the case, but all of that is based on me having information I couldn't have had. I can't believe that I'm legitimately being considered here.
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Post Post #4238 (ISO) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:29 pm

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Mental gymnastics is good when physical bodybuilding gyms are closed, y'know. SOMETHING meeds to take care of all those extra calories.

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Post Post #4239 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:12 pm

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I kinda just wanna lynch S_S/A50 and call it a day but I'll only do it if me and Mena can come to an agreement.
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Post Post #4240 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:14 pm

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I’m fine with SS, but you’re going to have to do wonders to convince me on A50.
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Post Post #4241 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:16 pm

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You think it's more likely Bingle just didn't use his PR n2 then A50 being scum?
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Post Post #4242 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:20 pm

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I think Bingle trying to rationally explain something away because it is the logical action is exactly what scum him would do after not taking the logical course.
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Post Post #4243 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:20 pm

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That said, I didn’t like chemist, but A50 hasn’t really been scummy. So...I’m not sure what the argument there is.
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Post Post #4244 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:21 pm

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Of course it’s quite possible that it’s just SS
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Post Post #4245 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:21 pm

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Post Post #4246 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:23 pm

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Post Post #4247 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 4239, MariaR wrote:I kinda just wanna lynch S_S/A50 and call it a day but I'll only do it if me and Mena can come to an agreement.
You would have to chose only one of the two, because I am not letting Bingle get away with this if he is Scum. It's S_S or Bingle for me, so these are the only 2 acceptable lynches for the rest of the game.

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Post Post #4248 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:32 pm

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I can be convinceed on Bingle from Mena/Peng
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Post Post #4249 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:34 pm

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