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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:00 am

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Fuck it. Gonna go ahead and full claim. Considered the last couple of days to do this anyway aalnd both weighes the benefits and the negatives of it. I think the positives outweigh the negatives because if we mislynch today we are on the lasy mislynch. I was confident that we could properly lynch today without resorting to this which is why i decided not to claim. But seeing as I may end up dying tonight anyway and then my results will not be out there and we will have more confusion, here it goes.

I am the tracker. When I initially read the game I town read mikes frustration about the Arthur self hammer. I still wanted to track him to make sure he was town though so I didnt have to second guess myself later.

He was seen visiting votato. With tracker theres only 3 possibilities for the second power role. Since Votato asled early in dp2 about something scummy mikal said in dp1 I am dismissing he is friendly neighbour. If he got a message saying mikal is town he wouldn't act suspicious of him. So I figured he is either jailer or cop. I stupidly dismissed he could be roleblocker or role cop. If he is jailkeep that looks good for votato because the night kill still went through. Technically if votato was scum he could have had the other scum mate carry the kill, though in general that seems a bad strategy and widens the chance of both scum being found out. If he is jailkeep mikal shouldnt have been excited about confirmation in votato narrowing down the pool.

Further he should have been excites after I soft claimed to him in the post where I mentioned Diablo 3. If he knew both I and votato were town the remaining scum pool is narrow between the remaining four I mentioned (now you see why i left out mikal nd votato from that pool).

Obviously if he is a doctor than that theory of votato being confirmes goes out the window. But I decide its best to out this result now because mike is saying he is quitting which is so anti town I cant even fathom he would do it as a power role. Mike will claim a power role now. Ive forced his hand. If he is the actual doc then he can protect me tonight and we get another tracker result. Of course he will die under that option but if hes scum role cop or roleblocker wed end up getting a CC in lylo which won't get us anywhere. Id rather risk the CC now and catch a guaranteed scum next day phase if we lynch wrong today.

And if mike really is the doc, this is a wake up call for him to get his head out of his ass and in my mind a positive as it still gives us a lot of POE to work with having two confirmed townies, only having to dismiss votato from the town pool.

If mike is the doctor his pessimistic no care attitude is extremely anti town ajd im not buying it.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:01 am

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I'm jailkeeper
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:02 am

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In post 222, Mikul wrote:I said I'm disinterested until something relevant came up

Word for word

You just directly contradicted what you said less than 2 weeks ago, one within the week. Especially when it's your main complaint on the site. If the mod allows this , I'll confirm it for the others but you have also townread me for this behavior. My vote isn't moving
Nah dude you were giving up. You wantes anthony to get hammered and said you didn't care about the outcome of the game. None of your qoutes will ever be me admitting to giving up in game. I don't do that. Go ahead dig through my mafia history and find a game where I have given up. I dare you.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:02 am

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And now I'm dead , congrats
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:05 am

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In post 226, Mikul wrote:I'm jailkeeper
This is what i suspected at first. If this is true you have no right to be pessimistic about the game when we had a remaining POE of 4 people and a 50% chance of lynching correctly. When i bread crumbed to you I expected excitement, giving up and being play with anthony potentially being town amd hammered was not the at if you are actually jailkeeper... If this is true in so god damned ashamed that you played it like this.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:06 am

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It's also why I didn't push votato harder this dp. I didn't jailkeep him because I believed him. I jail keeped to stop the nk. I was null but wasn't sure.

So Anthony is prob scum

By poe this is tl Anthony or herald. Chance is votato could not carry out the nk but working odd the other Poe
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:07 am

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Nothing is going to excited me about this game and I'm not ashamed. This is horrendously innactive and not fun. I know you are telling the truth and I think you know I am so if someone ccs they die.

Going back to Anthony but I'm also okay with herald
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:08 am

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At least now we can work off Poe
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:09 am

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Mafia has a rb as well and they missed. I want to figure out who they would have targeted and why they could go after porkins.

Will islo later and read who thought porkins was a good player
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:09 am

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In post 228, Mikul wrote:And now I'm dead , congrats
Doesn't matter. If no one counter claims you we can POE between the remaining four. If you are killed tonight I get another result with even higher percentage chance of getting scum on them assuming we lynch in those 4 today. If I was scum I would leave you alive and target votato. If thats the case and you protect me still no results but a strong POE pool with the remaining three. If we lynch incorrectly today a 66% chance tomorrow. And if correct a 33% chance assuming votato is killed.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:10 am

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In post 234, Lunatic wrote:
In post 228, Mikul wrote:And now I'm dead , congrats
Doesn't matter. If no one counter claims you we can POE between the remaining four. If you are killed tonight I get another result with even higher percentage chance of getting scum on them assuming we lynch in those 4 today. If I was scum I would leave you alive and target votato. If thats the case and you protect me still no results but a strong POE pool with the remaining three. If we lynch incorrectly today a 66% chance tomorrow. And if correct a 33% chance assuming votato is killed.
This is relevant to how stupid mafia is , work this out in your head. I won't type why
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:11 am

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Its worth mentioning that votato isn't 100% confirmed but it looks really good for him.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:12 am

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It's half and half yes. He's the last Poe pile. We will die over the next 2 days. But I think me and you can solve this now with Poe
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:12 am

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UNVOTE: Mikal
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:13 am

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UNVOTE: lunatic
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:15 am

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Dammit mike how did you not pick up my breadcrumb to you lol. That was the deciding factor for me in claiming.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:17 am

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I'm actually happy you did. If people refuse to post we can work from Poe

There wasn't a reason to care about this game but now there is

I actually am pinging votato town. If I had info on you to try and mislynch you he would not question how I had PM's or if they were correct. This is no ai but I get that as a towny vibe because I feel like he would have went with the flow

And there is a 50 50 chance he would have carried out the nk
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:22 am

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Actually I Wana lynch herald. Check his profile. He's actively playing in another game and has lurked his ass off.

He was also posting on weekends and I remember him saying he doesn't play on weekends much

Also means he may have an innactive partner so he doesn't care.

I'm thinking Anthony and herald
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:23 am

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I concur, I am almost just willing to dismiss votato as 100% town. He is experienced to enough I would assume he would grasp the logic of having 1 scum carry out the night actions.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:24 am

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In post 242, Mikul wrote:Actually I Wana lynch herald. Check his profile. He's actively playing in another game and has lurked his ass off.

He was also posting on weekends and I remember him saying he doesn't play on weekends much

Also means he may have an innactive partner so he doesn't care.

I'm thinking Anthony and herald
I thoight herald was on v/l?

Also something bugs me about town looter too.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:24 am

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He's vla until Monday so no rush

But if I'm wagering based off how much he has posted and the quality of posts in other games when he's town, it's likely him.

I also think it would be him or votato that went for porkins.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:25 am

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Townlooter scum read anthony until a wagon on him formed and it seemed he would actually get lynched. Then magically anthony is in the town pile. I can see him being Anthony's scum partner.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:25 am

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In post 244, Lunatic wrote:
In post 242, Mikul wrote:Actually I Wana lynch herald. Check his profile. He's actively playing in another game and has lurked his ass off.

He was also posting on weekends and I remember him saying he doesn't play on weekends much

Also means he may have an innactive partner so he doesn't care.

I'm thinking Anthony and herald
I thoight herald was on v/l?

Also something bugs me about town looter too.
Very possible everything about tl is different from last game. I've noticed it as well I just can't explain why it's weird. If I were betting it's

Herald

TL or Anthony
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:27 am

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In post 246, Lunatic wrote:Townlooter scum read anthony until a wagon on him formed and it seemed he would actually get lynched. Then magically anthony is in the town pile. I can see him being Anthony's scum partner.
I'm really bias but I can't see them killing porkins. He only posted like 3 times. Did he post something that implicated one of them?

If not it's an se going for how because they value his play
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:28 am

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For the 2 town in this scum pile they will have a 66% lynch accuracy out of the remaining three. Interested to see the replacements thoughts.
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