In post 13, Yukino wrote:At the time of my confirmation 5/7 confirmed.
Meaning 1 player confirmed and decided not to post.
I think that indicates scum being in Varsono and Hellbook
As I mentioned before I think this is towny but incorrect.
In post 19, Dunnstral wrote:To clarify, my stance is:
We are free to nominate whoever on day 1 and lynch someone they choose, and maybe do the same on day 2, but after that (or even on day 2) we should nominate who we want to lynch
I agree with this stance and I think he is town for it.
On a similar note I think scum is most likely to push for the scummiest player to be nominator. Reason for that is it becomes more of a normal game of mafia at that point. Vote for the scummiest player, and how often does that player actually turn out to be scum D1? If they can steer the consensus towards a town member then there is already a bias for lynching them since as a group we voted them to be nominator because they're the scummiest.
On the other hand if we choose the towniest player to be nominator they have very little say in who is nominated and it's much more difficult to steer the lynch away from scum.
If we choose someone random for info that 1. gains town some info based on reactions etc and 2. takes power out of scums hands.
In post 28, Varsoon wrote:
Thank you.
In that case, we've got 7 days to figure out a nomination so we should use this time instead of just bolting through it.
I also propose we take at least 48 hours after the execution phase begins before we come to a majority lynch.
Why don't you think people can actually come to a consensus D1? We've got the time to do so.
I agree that it's probably best to use the mechanic early and instead just lynch through nomination if we every hit MYLO/LYLO.
This is very town as well.
In post 29, DkKoba wrote:actually on second thought my d1 accuracy sucks and i might end up nominating just town take me out chief
At first I thought this was towny since naturally town would be ok with being/want to be nominated but then I remembered the whole high potential of lynching the nominator thing. So this could be an attempt to get out of being nominator while sounding towny.
In post 32, Varsoon wrote:
Also not comfortable with how hard back you skirted when even the thought of being held accountable for D1 reads was brought up
This is exactly what I was thinking with Koba.
In post 33, DkKoba wrote:ah yes because I want to end up nominating 2 town and then end up having a TvTvT situation. of course varsoon. I'm acknowledging one of my shortcomings. and as for my read? nonsense labeling of "hedging". I'm just not willing to give out a full townread on someone's second post but it does warrant a hard townlean. is that post Town to you?
And this is overdefensive for what was said
@Dunnstral
Can you explain this a bit more?
In post 48, Yukino wrote:VOTE: hellbook
I will vote hellbook now for my reasons mentioned in my last set of posts.
I think Nash has a really solid energy and aura to him so he has earned my first town read. I can pull up quotes and break this down further if someone would like.
@Yukino
Do you really think that's a scumtell? I mean I almost did it too. And not posting early game after confirming doesn't make you scum. There are so many factors. Any why not Varsoon?
In post 58, DkKoba wrote:>scum favor making attacks over town reads
Sounds like a mighty accusation there thats directed at me
I don't like how Koba took this personally. The post was about Nash and only about Nash. Nobody would have taken that as an attack towards Koba??
64 by Varsoon is towny as well.
In post 65, Varsoon wrote:I'll make it even clearer:
I'm of the mind there's at least one scum between DkKoba and Raya, given their play and positioning so far.
Well if this is the case it's Koba
In post 69, DkKoba wrote:
raya: I'd rather keep to myself what I'm doing with this slot before I out anything.
I actually find statements like this to be quite towny.
In post 81, Varsoon wrote:I'm always around.
I don't see the logic you're laying out for Yukino being town based on that post.
Paying such hard attention to confirms/signups strikes me as someone extra excited to begin--that sort of excitement in a game that hasn't begun is usually indicative of an interesting role; the only interesting roles in this game are scum.
Coming in with an out-of-game rationale / argument around posting for someone definitely being scum between only two players isn't the sort of thing I'd expect town to propose, either.
So I don't understand why you'd read that act as a town act.
I disagree with this but I'll let Koba respond.
--nvm Yukino responded lol
to add to what they said I think the "confirmed and not posted = scum" is a bold statement for scum to make since it's sure to draw attention. Scum could not be more obvious about pulling a scumread up out of nowhere by doing that.
I honestly don't think Koba is scum despite the points I made. I think they're play is "too scummy to be scum" in a sense. Scum would probably be more guarded about how they play.
(I normally would jump at something D1 like how they have been playing and I'm always wrong and I think the reason above is why players like this D1 aren't scum.)
That said I want the D1 nominator chosen for info so
VOTE: Koba