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[LicketyQuickety]

Yeah, except you being Cop confirms Truth's claim and that's just bull shit based on there already being an odd night Doc and a vig in the game. There's an off hand chance it's a PGO, but unless someone claims that, I think it's pretty clear there is no cop in this game which means both you and Truth are lying.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Popopo can you claim?

[NorwegianboyEE]

So much for "scum will night kill me on day 1 because my reads are so fucking good" Quick.
You’re in for a reality check bro.

[LicketyQuickety]

So much for "scum will night kill me on day 1 because my reads are so fucking good" Quick.
You’re in for a reality check bro.

I never said I would be NKed N1 for my reads. You did.

[NorwegianboyEE]

When I get killed N1, please look at who I said was Scum and who I said was Town.

But you did say you would be killed N1.

[LicketyQuickety]

When I get killed N1, please look at who I said was Scum and who I said was Town.

But you did say you would be killed N1.

Yeah, I should have been.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway, fair warning that i’m going to try to mostly ignore you until i get some 1v1 with Popopo. Don’t stand in my way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not responding will be taken as a tacit approval of being caught scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

Actually, it makes sense that Truth is SK.

[popopopopopopo]

I'm a vt

[popopopopopopo]

I thought norwe was pretty town

Scum might have a framer or some shit

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually, it makes sense that Truth is SK.

There is exactly one anti-town group of at least two players, and no other anti-town factions.

[popopopopopopo]

I dont really see scum norwe faking a guilty out of the blue

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm a vt

Ok, you're scum.
I'm a odd-night gunsmith.
You are positive to having a gun. I was checking to see if you were a vigilante as that was the only way you'd counterclaim me. But you didn't. So you're confirmed mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum might have a framer or some shit

Basically proving yourself to not be vigilante as you honestly believed i was a cop that checked you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Let's talk real now. Who's the most likely teammates to scum!Popopo?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm thinking Glitch could be likely teammate. Possibly Looker as well.

[Glitch]

lmao
If scum was the cop's vote slave that'll be rich. I'm trusting Norway as one of my stronger TRs.

VOTE: popo
If he flips town we kill the Norwegian.
If he flips scum we should zoom in on Blair who has said nothing useful about popo literally at all, and Nauci because she has only defended him:

I am currently somewhat lost in this game because I do think popopopopo's past few pages are towny

I did a little bit of reading other players' ISOs trying to figure out where I would want to push next but haven't figured that out yet and de prioritized this game for one that is closer to deadline. I wanted to read previous games from GL, NBEE, and popopopopo before I try to assess it further since so much of the accusations being thrown around were meta-based, but haven't gotten to that yet because of aforementioned priority queue

Also endometriosis is murdering me today so I'm heading to bed early soon and will be back tomorrow

Spoiler: Wall of popo Defense by Nauci

The other thing I don't like about popoppopoopoppopo's vote:

You previously said Nauci was "forced as fuck" and were voting her. Then she quotes one, yes ONE, post of mine she doesn't like, and votes me, and your response is to put me at L-2 with no hesitation? Did your read on Nauci change? Do you think she just decided to lolbus me cause Norway wants to play like he's some RVS god, even though I later linked a game where I opened the exact same way as town? It seems pretty dissonant to me!

VOTE: popopopopopo

This post claiming issues with my vote is leaving out the VITAL fact that I am norwe's vote slave. In doing that, he completely misrepresented my supposed reasoning for switching votes. The push feels fake and based off a misrep. Norwe was cranking the pressure up pretty hard my man guilty needed a release.

VOTE: popopopopopopo

He feels like he doesn't care. I also saw some reasons from tiger cat that I liked.

i mean who tf knows with this guy. He wants to nolynch, then he wants to quick lynch. Idk his alignment but certified VI

I agree with everything here.

VOTE: popopo

This was quick vote on me i fucked up the tags
I've only played with quikc town. in those games he was prone to crackpot theories, unorthodox pushes like he was going at truth with. BUT This vote is very weak especially after all his other interactions he hops on me with GL because of GLs bad and misrepping post.

VOTE: popo

Lol ill be phone posting all weekend but look at this dudes iso its all townreads and then a naked hop on me. Could be the worst vote on my wagon. This guy is straight cruising and found an easy spot to park his vote but I ain't mislynch bait like that bro.

LicketyQuickety - town lean his vote on me was bad but quick likes an illogical bad push as much as anyone so it doesnt surprise me he voted me. his incessant pushing on truth early feels town motivated coming from this particular player.
NorwegianboyEE - town lean i explained already
Looker - town lean responded well to my request for reads even if we dont completely agree
osuka - null town feels like a saudade type player where he just calls people retards and argues. hard to read, but the argument with truth seemed genuine enough
Truth - any read i have is irrelevant, mechanics will sort. im more inclined to believe the claim than not.
Glitch - null seems like a noob. i find this type of player hard to sort. at least looks like hes trying.
Nauci - null his early posts pinged me as forced, he has been posting more thoughtfully since.
Candy Shop - null dont really have an impression of this slot, this is the NL guy right? ok i checked his ISO. idk
ndmath - null no impression of this slot
mavsfan41 - null-scum him coming in with a vote immediately after i call him out is not a good look
GuiltyLion - scum lean i explained
Cat Scratch Fever - scummy his vote was opportunistic and his iso has been bad, handing out townreads like candy and little scumreads is mafia indicative especially early game

Looker - town lean responded well to my request for reads even if we dont completely agree

Are you talking about this?

Most informational flip: GuiltyLion
Secondary options: LicketyQuickety / NorwegianboyEE
Gray Area/Reasons I'm not ready to end the day: Glitch / Candy Shop / Mavsfan / Cat Scratch Fever / rozyrozNDMath / Osuka
Comfortable with delaying inspection: Truth / popopopo / Nauci

Looker didn't even give reads - he just said which slots were good info lynches?

yes thats what I was talking about.

mavsfan41 - null-scum him coming in with a vote immediately after i call him out is not a good look

Why is this weird? He said he was in the middle of catching up earlier.

the timing is suspicious. It could also be a coincidence i grant u.

Cat Scratch Fever - scummy his vote was opportunistic and his iso has been bad, handing out townreads like candy and little scumreads is mafia indicative especially early game

Which townreads do you disagree with?

Its less about me disagreeing with them that it is the way you hand them out.

Cat scratch leans town on quick and nauci, then he semi- walks back the nauci read after a light prod by norwe (203). Then he town reads norwe and osuka, and hops on guilty for no real reason

lol this game is going to be a clash of egos huh

I'm townreading Norway and I think osuka is townish. Still think Quick is prob town but he seems to have trouble getting his point across

VOTE: guiltylion

Notice he doesnt call guilty scum here. Doesn't really provide a reason for his vote at all.

In fact cat scratch never calls GL scum, except he does post this

I think Quick and Osuka are TvT right now, and this back and forth is rapidly growing tiring to follow. Why don't we all hug it out and vote GuiltyLion or something

So here there is a push for more votes on guilty. He's never called guilty even scummy tho? But he's voted for him and called for others to vote him. Then he votes for me, with no explanation of either his original guilty read or his new vote on me. He provided a reason for the vote on me when I pressed him.

I'd vote cat but guilty is likely his partner so ill stick with nii chan for now

BTW cats vote on me was sheeping GLs attack on me after already voting for GL and calling for others to vote there. A bizarre turnaround.

So GL OMGUSd me and started a counter wagon to deflect attention and his partner cat hopped on innocuously a couple votes in?
Sometimes its just that easy

vote: cat scratch

GL last couple pages was ok

after sleeping on it and the last back and forth im not as confident on the GL/cat scratch scumteam. Scratch is scummy independently though, his early play was intentionally inoffensive and his hop on my wagon was very bad.

I still think lions push one me is bad, but his aw shucks demeanor and trying to see things from norwes POV make me feel less strongly about it. I'd like more votes on cat his iso pre voting me is very poor as I've laid out.

Considering how all of these posts from popopopopo talk about why he scumreads CSF, I don't think I buy that you genuinely think it was exclusively because he thought that voteslaving would get him lynched that he voted elsewhere, Glitch.

popo and Truth cannot be town together. Memory serves that Truth has been pushing popo almost the entire game and unless Truth is conning all of us with a newb-front (which I have recently begun considering as recent posts have revealed a decent knowledge of the game), he wouldn't do that as newbish as he has acted this game, if they were both scum together. So if popo flips scum then Truth has got to be town. All I know until a flip is Truth was certain he would be the focus of all the action last night, but sure enough, he wasn't. That's because the scum either don't feel threatened by him or because he is scum. The former is much more likely to be the case.

[LicketyQuickety]

Blair I'm less interested in the discussion around what your osuka read is and when it was expressed, I see your point that Quick is misrepping/misunderstanding you and you're right that you've consistently been against an osuka lynch.

What I want to know in greater detail is

why

. What specifically from osuka is pointing you to the conclusion that he's not scum here? From what I gather from your posts, it seems to be largely a gamestate thing - you don't like the people voting him and you're skeptical that the leading wagon is on scum right now. I see the value in putting some stock into game state based reasoning, but I really don't think anything in osuka's ISO indicates town and I want to know if you have good reasons based on his own play for thinking he's a bad lynch.

Partly gamestate, as you've said. (The wagon spooled up too easily, in my opinion)

Partly his behavior. As I said earlier, he keeps allowing himself to get baited into pointless slapfights with poor optics. Scum know the optics are bad, and are more likely to take the "high road" and try to give the benefit of the doubt - townies don't care about the optics (because they know they're town and that anyone scumreading them for this is just wrong) and are more tempted to dive headlong into calling stupid posts... well... stupid.

Norway is doing a gambit. Truth is probably SK, and this (^) was a bad answer to GL. I don't feel like talking about why, but yeah, it was.

[NorwegianboyEE]

popopopopopopo

(4): GuiltyLion, Truth, LicketyQuickety, Glitch

Maybe not Glitch based on this VC though. NDMath maybe?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Truth is probably SK

There is no SK in this setup as confirmed by the mod.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm pretty sure on Looker being scum with him tbh. But the second one i'm still unsure.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norway is doing a gambit.

Can you stop trying to be so dense that i'm reconsidering whether you're actually scum for being so anti-town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If he flips scum we should zoom in on Blair who has said nothing useful about popo literally at all, and Nauci because she has only defended him:

Maybe Blair, not sure i agree about Nauci though. Popopo's ISO has him voting her for bad reasons in D1. Either a lame attempt at buss or they are not alligned. Check more suspicious slots first.