Newbie 2014: Aesthetic | Game Over

[Town looter]

I am just going off my thinking here. If I have got the mechanics or theory wrong please don't hesitate to correct me.

[Town looter]

I also really like how you are mostly parroting my views Mikul, yet reading me as scum... (Town!Anthony, doubts about Brass slot).

[Mikul]

no ones voting yet , and we have time. It's not just activity as to why i'm scum reading you. I put the exact posts above but I agree that you being more active is not ai

it def could be you trying to do better as town so you dont get lynched from the same reasons but that is not the basis of the scum reads.

[LicketyQuickety]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

[Town looter]

no ones voting yet , and we have time. It's not just activity as to why i'm scum reading you. I put the exact posts above but I agree that you being more active is not ai

it def could be you trying to do better as town so you dont get lynched from the same reasons but that is not the basis of the scum reads.

I get that, but I was also suggesting my approach/style was similar, not just my activity: I was wishy-washy/flippy-floppy with reads often, and I was also the wagon starter and pushed on Neutron Star - which bears very similar circumstances to the Arthur situation. I was pushing for reactions/pressure, not because I felt particularly strongly that either Arthur or NS were 100% scum.

My initial little snide remarks about lynching Arthur were reaction tests designed to test how Arthur would react. Again I find it odd that you would find this type of stuff scummy given your usual approach to D1...

[Town looter]

Also: Where's Nash gone? I really wish you guys would be addressing him more. If they really are town (which I doubt they are), then threat of a lynch should drive up some activity - but you guys are currently giving them a free pass :-/

[Town looter]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

Why have you implicitly cleared Anthony?

[Mikul]

no ones voting yet , and we have time. It's not just activity as to why i'm scum reading you. I put the exact posts above but I agree that you being more active is not ai

it def could be you trying to do better as town so you dont get lynched from the same reasons but that is not the basis of the scum reads.

I get that, but I was also suggesting my approach/style was similar, not just my activity: I was wishy-washy/flippy-floppy with reads often, and I was also the wagon starter and pushed on Neutron Star - which bears very similar circumstances to the Arthur situation. I was pushing for reactions/pressure, not because I felt particularly strongly that either Arthur or NS were 100% scum.

My initial little snide remarks about lynching Arthur were reaction tests designed to test how Arthur would react. Again I find it odd that you would find this type of stuff scummy given your usual approach to D1...

If i knew that was your intent like 100 percent I woudnt

[Town looter]

Anthony slot*

[Mikul]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

Why have you implicitly cleared Anthony?

so you think anthony is scum as well?

[Mikul]

luna is trying to convince me on that wagon, how do you feel?

[Town looter]

no ones voting yet , and we have time. It's not just activity as to why i'm scum reading you. I put the exact posts above but I agree that you being more active is not ai

it def could be you trying to do better as town so you dont get lynched from the same reasons but that is not the basis of the scum reads.

I get that, but I was also suggesting my approach/style was similar, not just my activity: I was wishy-washy/flippy-floppy with reads often, and I was also the wagon starter and pushed on Neutron Star - which bears very similar circumstances to the Arthur situation. I was pushing for reactions/pressure, not because I felt particularly strongly that either Arthur or NS were 100% scum.

My initial little snide remarks about lynching Arthur were reaction tests designed to test how Arthur would react. Again I find it odd that you would find this type of stuff scummy given your usual approach to D1...

If i knew that was your intent like 100 percent I woudnt

But surely the scum motivation for the snide remarks is a bit of a stretch? Supposedly Scum!TL perfectly baits the one towny who is likely to get ultra defensive and throw a tantrum, therefore making them the perfect mislynch target.

Nearly everyone thought Arthur was scummy, not because what I said, but because of the reactions I (and others) prompted out of him. It was his responses that led to his death. I contributed by putting pressure on, sure, but that's the job of town. Not doing it would be scummy too.

Now the votes on Arthur are a different matter. And you are correct in suspecting me because of my vote. Just like you should be very suspect of Anthony, Brass and to an extent votato. There is almost certainly scum in one of us four, and I know it's not me. I initially thought votato town, but that read is getting stale - they haven't done a lot to help town recently in my mind (but null rather than anything else).

pedit: gimme a sec

[LicketyQuickety]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

Why have you implicitly cleared Anthony?

Totally forgot about them.

[Town looter]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

Why have you implicitly cleared Anthony?

so you think anthony is scum as well?

I think the post that people took issue with is newbie-town, but their vote on Arthur could be scum motivated. Unlike you, I am very interested in hearing what their replacement says.

But the reason for my question wasn't because I think Anthony scum, but because LQ is omitting them, which is odd, if not slightly scummy.

[LicketyQuickety]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

Why have you implicitly cleared Anthony?

so you think anthony is scum as well?

I think the post that people took issue with is newbie-town, but their vote on Arthur could be scum motivated. Unlike you, I am very interested in hearing what their replacement says.

But the reason for my question wasn't because I think Anthony scum, but because LQ is omitting them, which is odd, if not slightly scummy.

I haven't actually seen them post. It would be great to see what their replacement has to say. I more or less forgot that slot exists.

[Mikul]

I think it's pretty clear at least one of TL/votato is Scum. I think TL has made some posts that are hard(er) to fake as Scum, so that leaves me thinking votato is Scum. So Scum are in those three between TL/votato/nash. I really think the way votato dropped off means he's Scum since he doesn't actually have legit reasons for why I am Scum and can't defend that position.

Why have you implicitly cleared Anthony?

so you think anthony is scum as well?

I think the post that people took issue with is newbie-town, but their vote on Arthur could be scum motivated. Unlike you, I am very interested in hearing what their replacement says.

But the reason for my question wasn't because I think Anthony scum, but because LQ is omitting them, which is odd, if not slightly scummy.

im asking are you okay with his lynch like luna is?

[Town looter]

Is Luna still keen on the lynch though? I thought it was predicated on something to do with Anthony talking in PT, which I am not sure of given mod has been looking for a replacement for a while. But haven't carefully looked at the timing tbh.

My lynch preferences are:
Nash > Brass > Anthony > Votato.

Obviously haven't included myself even though I am not opposed to lynching me today if you get cleared and still 100% think I am scum. Anybody to the right of Brass would require some convincing, but there are absolutely scenarios where Anthony or votato or both are scum.

[Town looter]

Lol, by Brass I mean LQ obviously

[Mikul]

Is Luna still keen on the lynch though? I thought it was predicated on something to do with Anthony talking in PT, which I am not sure of given mod has been looking for a replacement for a while. But haven't carefully looked at the timing tbh.

My lynch preferences are:
Nash > Brass > Anthony > Votato.

Obviously haven't included myself even though I am not opposed to lynching me today if you get cleared and still 100% think I am scum. Anybody to the right of Brass would require some convincing, but there are absolutely scenarios where Anthony or votato or both are scum.

so question for you

[Mikul]

@TL

Why are you willing to lynch in that order when you just posted this less than a day and a half ago?

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[Mikul]

to clarify, if you were reading anthony as noob town. Why would you be willing to lynch him at all and what changed? Sure luna is out of that poe but if you have a town read because hes a noob why would you lynch him over votato?

[Mikul]

My senses are tingling so hard with this TL / Votato scum team


Votato is actively engaging in another game all day and has not defended himself vs quick. In that scenario TL would carry out the nk so the jk on votato likely did nothing

[LicketyQuickety]

I'd love to field questions, Mikul, but it looks like you are not even reading me, so whatev.

[Mikul]

I'd love to field questions, Mikul, but it looks like you are not even reading me, so whatev.

Just because I say something doesn't mean i'm actually doing it. I how people react to what I say

I was waiting to be directly engaged to see if you even cared enough to point that out

[Mikul]

forgive phone posting but you get the jist of it