New Rule: Replace the Word "Lynch" in Games

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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:13 pm

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In post 923, N wrote:
In post 917, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 914, Nexus wrote:Again, you can use whatever word you want except lynched/hanged.
Isn’t it better to have a defined standard?
In post 921, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 918, Nexus wrote:We have said we suggest eliminate.
Yeah but i don't like that word as an replacement, so making it the uniform new "standard" each mod should use is something i'd see as a loss.
WHICH DO YOU WANT
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I have nothing against changing the word "lynch" to something else. But i hate the word "Eliminate" as the proposed replacement.
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:14 pm

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From setup design, it would be very useful to have defined standard. If someone receives in PM "Once you are eliminated, you may pick a person to roleblock them" they might be confused what elimination is. Thanks to standardization we can avoid misinterpretations, which have negative impact on games.
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:15 pm

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Like person could think that being killed by vig or moddkilled will count as elimination. This is really generic word.
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:17 pm

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Eliminating is something my patients do when I put them on the toilet

I've had patients mob me too but it's a lot more rare
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:17 pm

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I propose Bump Off: to murder casually or cold-bloodedly
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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:21 pm

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I mean I'll probably just stick with murder in my generic flavor

"With five alive it takes three to murder"

But I'm looking at mobbed as more a generic term to replace my use of lynch as a player, not a mod. ie, "WHAT THE FUCK YOU THINK YOU DOING I HAVENT BEEN MISELIMINATED IN EIGHT YEARS" doesn't have the same ring as "COME TAKE A SHOT AT THE BELT PUNK, I AINT BEEN MISMOBBED SINCE 2012"
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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:22 pm

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Misbumped off?
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:23 pm

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In post 926, Kerset wrote:From setup design, it would be very useful to have defined standard. If someone receives in PM "Once you are eliminated, you may pick a person to roleblock them" they might be confused what elimination is. Thanks to standardization we can avoid misinterpretations, which have negative impact on games.
Precisely.
Casually removing an deeply ingrained word and then half-assedly suggesting people can maybe use: "eliminate" or whatever they feel like is going to generate a lot of confusion and misunderstanding throughout the site in many games. Which should really have been a higher priority for the moderation team to consider.
Rather than creating a wild texas we need a PROPOSED STANDARD new replacement word that doesn't SUCK.

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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:23 pm

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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:24 pm

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Lylo and Mylo are here to stay I assume, even if the killing word is changing?
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:25 pm

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Eylo?
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:25 pm

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In post 934, Dunnstral wrote:Lylo and Mylo are here to stay I assume, even if the killing word is changing?
I think they clarified earlier that this is only for mods for the time being. So, I don't think LYLO and MYLO are affected.
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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:28 pm

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Again, whether they are defacto effected officially or not doesn't really change that the community should also be making an effort to also change their language.
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 pm

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Yay time for me to make a post I'll regret
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 pm

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In post 932, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 926, Kerset wrote:From setup design, it would be very useful to have defined standard. If someone receives in PM "Once you are eliminated, you may pick a person to roleblock them" they might be confused what elimination is. Thanks to standardization we can avoid misinterpretations, which have negative impact on games.
Precisely.
Casually removing an deeply ingrained word and then half-assedly suggesting people can maybe use: "eliminate" or whatever they feel like is going to generate a lot of confusion and misunderstanding throughout the site in many games. Which should really have been a higher priority for the moderation team to consider.
Rather than creating a wild texas we need a PROPOSED STANDARD new replacement word that doesn't SUCK.

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the point is it sucks less than something racist
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:30 pm

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Let's hear it Isis
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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:33 pm

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In post 936, brassherald wrote:
In post 934, Dunnstral wrote:Lylo and Mylo are here to stay I assume, even if the killing word is changing?
I think they clarified earlier that this is only for mods for the time being. So, I don't think LYLO and MYLO are affected.
What if the mod needs to specify mylo/lylo for a role or for a rule, or even in a setup description?
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:34 pm

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In post 937, chamber wrote:Again, whether they are defacto effected officially or not doesn't really change that the community should also be making an effort to also change their language.
I agree, however, we've seen that there are some in the community that's willing to die on the hill of "mafia isn't worth playing if we have to use a slightly different word."

Also, there are people willing to claim they don't know what the racial connotations of the word are, but, I've already called them out for bad faith.
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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:35 pm

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In post 941, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 936, brassherald wrote:
In post 934, Dunnstral wrote:Lylo and Mylo are here to stay I assume, even if the killing word is changing?
I think they clarified earlier that this is only for mods for the time being. So, I don't think LYLO and MYLO are affected.
What if the mod needs to specify mylo/lylo for a role or for a rule, or even in a setup description?
Ummmmm.... No, not a real thing.
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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:40 pm

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E-1

MELO

ELO

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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:40 pm

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In post 943, brassherald wrote:
In post 941, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 936, brassherald wrote:
In post 934, Dunnstral wrote:Lylo and Mylo are here to stay I assume, even if the killing word is changing?
I think they clarified earlier that this is only for mods for the time being. So, I don't think LYLO and MYLO are affected.
What if the mod needs to specify mylo/lylo for a role or for a rule, or even in a setup description?
Ummmmm.... No, not a real thing.
It is a thing sometimes, I've seen it, especially in theme games.
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:43 pm

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There will probably be lots of corners cases that come up that haven't been thought of. Why are you bringing it up now? If it matters a mod can just ask their listmod.
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:43 pm

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In post 930, kuribo wrote:I mean I'll probably just stick with murder in my generic flavor

"With five alive it takes three to murder"

But I'm looking at mobbed as more a generic term to replace my use of lynch as a player, not a mod. ie, "WHAT THE FUCK YOU THINK YOU DOING I HAVENT BEEN MISELIMINATED IN EIGHT YEARS" doesn't have the same ring as "COME TAKE A SHOT AT THE BELT PUNK, I AINT BEEN MISMOBBED SINCE 2012"
"I haven't been miseliminated since i had surgery for my anal fissure"
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:49 pm

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Here's a list of terms that I'd like for the new term for town's method of removing slots from play:

Mob - A flavorful term that keeps the old term's meaning in spirit, it meshes very poorly with abbreviations however (as a standout example, Policy Mob would be PM!)
Eliminate - It's a flavorless term for voting out that isn't literally just voting out. It meshes well with abbreviations (I like ELo and MeLo). It is a little gameshow-esque however.
Vote Out - The least flavor possible while being unambiguous. It meshes okay with abbreviations. (VoLo and MoLo sound okay, MV maybe not) It is very gameshow-esque.
Exile - A flavorful term that is slightly less harsh. It meshes well with abbreviations as you can just use Eliminate's abbreviations. This is the ideal term afaik.
Throw Off - If you want an oddball term here is one. Not the best for abbreviations though.



If Eliminate weren't already standard Exile should be standard.
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:51 pm

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Hmm, i like it better than eliminate.
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