Not Known 15's Mini Normal Review, June (solidly) 2020

[Not Known 15]

No, actually, I made a miscalculation that one is too scumsided. Will think more about it and come back in one or two days.

[Not Known 15]

5 Vanilla Townies

2 Mafia Goons

Town 1-shot Vanilla Cop

2x Town Activated Innocent Child

Town Ninja Roleblocker

Town Night 1 BP Innocent Child

1 Mafia Informed // X is a Night 1 BP Innocent Child. Town does not have a Watcher, Doctor, Bodyguard or Rolestopper.

Vanilla Townie

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Mafia Goon

You are a Mafia Goon.

Your team-mates are

name

and

name

. You may talk to them

here

at any time.

Each night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Mafia Informed

You are a Mafia Informed.

Your team-mates are

name

and

name

. You may talk to them

here

at any time.

You know additional information about the setup:

name

is a Night 1 Bulletproof Innocent Child. Town does not have a Watcher, Doctor, Bodyguard or Rolestopper.

Each night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town Ninja Roleblocker

You are a Town Ninja Roleblocker.

Your actions are not visible to Tracker-like and Watcher-like roles

Each, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player's active abilities will be blocked that night.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town Activated Innocent Child

You are a Town Activated Innocent Child.
At any time, you may choose to be confirmed as town-aligned.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town Night 1 Bulletproof Innocent Child

You are a Town Night 1 Bulletproof Innocent Child.
At the start of the game you will be confirmed as being town aligned.
You are protected from kills that target you on Night 1.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town 1-shot Vanilla Cop

You are a Town 1-shot Vanilla Cop

Once in the game at night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn if their role is Vanilla.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

(Visits Goon/VT:Vanilla;visits anybody else:Not Vanilla; roleblocked:No Result)

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel this is a toned down version of Friends and Enemies with some mods.

I'd probably be okay with Vanilla Cop being less gated than 1 shot even, maybe even something like Odd-Night.

Full roleblocker is rough if mafia get caught way early, but I like the ninja there with nothing.

I'll pass it, if NSG is cool with it.

If scum play a solid game, they should be able to play around everything, and the same is true if town play well.

[Flavor Leaf]

just expect scum to be upset over 3 IC's, but it is manageable for scum still, but it's one of those things that in the moment is going to come across really demotivating.

[northsidegal]

you could add babysitter to the list of roles scum are informed that town doesn't have, although nobody remembers that it exists so it probably doesn't matter

seems roughly balanced i suppose

[Not Known 15]

Oops.

5 Vanilla Townies

2 Mafia Goons

Town 1-shot Vanilla Cop

2x Town Activated Innocent Child

Town Ninja Roleblocker

Town Night 1 BP Innocent Child

1 Mafia Informed // X is a Night 1 BP Innocent Child. Town does not have a Watcher, Doctor, Bodyguard, Babysitter or Rolestopper.

Vanilla Townie

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Mafia Goon

You are a Mafia Goon.

Your team-mates are

name

and

name

. You may talk to them

here

at any time.

Each night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Mafia Informed

You are a Mafia Informed.

Your team-mates are

name

and

name

. You may talk to them

here

at any time.

You know additional information about the setup:

name

is a Night 1 Bulletproof Innocent Child. Town does not have a Watcher, Doctor, Bodyguard, Babysitter or Rolestopper.

Each night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town Ninja Roleblocker

You are a Town Ninja Roleblocker.

Your actions are not visible to Tracker-like and Watcher-like roles

Each, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player's active abilities will be blocked that night.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town Activated Innocent Child

You are a Town Activated Innocent Child.
At any time, you may choose to be confirmed as town-aligned.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town Night 1 Bulletproof Innocent Child

You are a Town Night 1 Bulletproof Innocent Child.
At the start of the game you will be confirmed as being town aligned.
You are protected from kills that target you on Night 1.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town 1-shot Vanilla Cop

You are a Town 1-shot Vanilla Cop

Once in the game at night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn if their role is Vanilla.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

(Visits Goon/VT:Vanilla;visits anybody else:Not Vanilla; roleblocked:No Result)

[Not Known 15]

bump

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I’m good with it. Role PM’s look solid, forgot “night” on the roleblocker for each night, but other than that, I think it’s fine.

Mafia factional kill description is weird, but it makes sense, and says exactly what it does.

[Not Known 15]

Good catch. Must have accidentally deleted that.

5 Vanilla Townies

2 Mafia Goons

Town 1-shot Vanilla Cop

2x Town Activated Innocent Child

Town Ninja Roleblocker

Town Night 1 BP Innocent Child

1 Mafia Informed // X is a Night 1 BP Innocent Child. Town does not have a Watcher, Doctor, Bodyguard, Babysitter or Rolestopper.

Vanilla Townie

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Mafia Goon

You are a Mafia Goon.

Your team-mates are

name

and

name

. You may talk to them

here

at any time.

Each night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Mafia Informed

You are a Mafia Informed.

Your team-mates are

name

and

name

. You may talk to them

here

at any time.

You know additional information about the setup:

name

is a Night 1 Bulletproof Innocent Child. Town does not have a Watcher, Doctor, Bodyguard, Babysitter or Rolestopper.

Each night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town Ninja Roleblocker

You are a Town Ninja Roleblocker.

Your actions are not visible to Tracker-like and Watcher-like roles

Each night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player's active abilities will be blocked that night.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town Activated Innocent Child

You are a Town Activated Innocent Child.
At any time, you may choose to be confirmed as town-aligned.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town Night 1 Bulletproof Innocent Child

You are a Town Night 1 Bulletproof Innocent Child.
At the start of the game you will be confirmed as being town aligned.
You are protected from kills that target you on Night 1.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Town 1-shot Vanilla Cop

You are a Town 1-shot Vanilla Cop

Once in the game at night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn if their role is Vanilla.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

(Visits Goon/VT:Vanilla;visits anybody else:Not Vanilla; roleblocked:No Result)

[Not Known 15]

Mafia factional kill description is weird, but it makes sense, and says exactly what it does.

That`s the standardized version, actually...

[Flavor Leaf]

The wording specifically, I understand how it works and that it is the same thing.

It’s just funny wording to me. You copy/pasted it from a standardized role pm? If so, interesting. If you just wrote it out, yeah. I was just making a comment on it.

Nothing wrong with it.

[Not Known 15]

NSG?

[Not Known 15]

Bump

[implosion]

FL is primary so if nsg doesn’t get to it, it’s alright, but it would be good if both could take a look.

[Flavor Leaf]

Oh, yeah, I’m good with it.

I was waiting for NSG, but she basically already said she was good with it, at least for what it was.

I’ll pass it.

[northsidegal]

sorry, pass

[Not Known 15]

Revised rules:

Welcome to my Mini Normal.

Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission, doing anything obviously against the spirit of the rules) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:

8.Length of day phases:7 days. More if replacements force me to extend the phase.
9.Length of nights: 2 days. Will usually not end before all replacements are finished.

10. Elimination:An elimination during the day necessiates more than 50% of all possible votes. You may vote for No Elimination. A No Elimination needs 50% of all possible votes.

11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for an Elimination or NoElimination is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered elimination target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip the game descends into Night.
14:Daychat: Every evil faction has daychat by default.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color, Backup Mod color and Vanilla Role PM:

Vanilla Townie

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

At least one person recieved this Role PM.

This is my color

#BF8080). Do not use it.
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.

[/quote]
Results:
Vanilla Cop on VT, not blocked-> Vanilla.
Vanilla Cop on MG, not blocked-> Vanilla.
Vanilla Cop, blocked(Roleblocker, Ascetic) -> No Result.
Vanilla Cop, on power role -> Not Vanilla.
Motion Detector, blocked(Roleblocker, Ascetic) -> No Result.
Motion Detector, not blocked, target visited by non-ninjas, target(not Ninja) visited someone ->Motion detected.
Motion Detector, not blocked, target visited by non-ninjas ->Motion detected.
Motion Detector, not blocked, target(not Ninja) visited someone ->Motion detected.
Motion Detector, not blocked, no detectable visits from or towards the target ->No motion detected.[/quote]

[Not Known 15]

Revised rules, version 2:

Welcome to my Mini Normal.

Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission, doing anything obviously against the spirit of the rules) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:

8.Length of day phases:7 days. More if replacements force me to extend the phase.
9.Length of nights: 2 days. Will usually not end before all replacements are finished.

10. Elimination:The town can kill one person per day. This is called Elimination. People may vote to eliminate someone (e.g.VOTE: Not Known 15)
An elimination during the day necessiates more than 50% of all possible votes. You may vote for No Elimination. A No Elimination needs 50% of all possible votes.

11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for an Elimination or NoElimination is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered elimination target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip the game descends into Night.
14:Daychat: Every evil faction has daychat by default.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color, Backup Mod color and Vanilla Role PM:

Vanilla Townie

You are a Vanilla Townie.

You have no active abilities.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

At least one person recieved this Role PM.

This is my color

#BF8080). Do not use it.
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.

[Flavor Leaf]

2 thumbs up on the elimination.

[implosion]

this is up now, fyi.