New Rule: Replace the Word "Lynch" in Games

[Creature]

And any argument that we should somehow keep using a word that will harmful just because we have used it for so long is the same as saying it is okay to glorify a racist with a statue or name a military base after a confederate general.

Just because it is history doesn't mean we should glorify it with public use.

No one wants to glorify a word, we just want to keep using it as it is the most practical.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And any argument that we should somehow keep using a word that will harmful just because we have used it for so long is the same as saying it is okay to glorify a racist with a statue or name a military base after a confederate general.

Just because it is history doesn't mean we should glorify it with public use.

No one wants to glorify a word, we just want to keep using it as it is the most practical.

This is laughable?

Explain why EXECUTE is not a practical solution that does not have a racial history. It fits the theme, it functions very clearly as <we are killing this person> and executions tend to be done in public, and in the past by public consent.

So explain why Execute is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than Lynch, without using an argument that implies it is easier to use lynch because we have always used it.

Go on.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cause creature, the issue is this

It is impossible to tell online the difference between someone who genuinely believes somehow that keeping on using a racially charged word that hurts people is MOST PRACTICAL

and an asshole racist who says those words to fit into common society.

And given I have provided an alternative... as have many others... I think we are reasonably safe in assuming the second, because it is safer for our communities to not harbour racist assholes.

You understand that?

[Isis]

good change

for the new death flavor i propose using the lines that appear when characters die in the classic 1999 pc game

Worms: Armageddon

ever since you got misalthunted in masquerade i keep finding more evidence you are me

[scotmany12]

And any argument that we should somehow keep using a word that will harmful just because we have used it for so long is the same as saying it is okay to glorify a racist with a statue or name a military base after a confederate general.

Just because it is history doesn't mean we should glorify it with public use.

No one wants to glorify a word, we just want to keep using it as it is the most practical.

This is some real "but my southern heritage" bullshit

[Lady Lambdadelta]

And any argument that we should somehow keep using a word that will harmful just because we have used it for so long is the same as saying it is okay to glorify a racist with a statue or name a military base after a confederate general.

Just because it is history doesn't mean we should glorify it with public use.

No one wants to glorify a word, we just want to keep using it as it is the most practical.

This is some real "but my southern heritage" bullshit

Shhh, you're making it harder to make the racists go full mask off so we can site boot them.

[Creature]

Explain why EXECUTE is not a practical solution that does not have a racial history. It fits the theme, it functions very clearly as and executions tend to be done in public, and in the past by public consent.

Execution seems to be done by an authority instead of simple citizens desperate to take justice into their own hands. Most games it should be doable, but it'll still be confusing if the mod decides to add a role that involves executing.

[T-Bone]

I did just want to make clear. Lynch is gone, we're not going back. Just so we're all on the same page.

[Hiraki]

i cant believe this thread hit 44 pages

what's the problem with using a new word again?

[Creature]

Cause creature, the issue is this

It is impossible to tell online the difference between someone who genuinely believes somehow that keeping on using a racially charged word that hurts people is MOST PRACTICAL

and an asshole racist who says those words to fit into common society.

And given I have provided an alternative... as have many others... I think we are reasonably safe in assuming the second, because it is safer for our communities to not harbour racist assholes.

You understand that?

There are so many fallacies in this post idk which is the most appropriate to point.

[shaft.ed]

did you also do the word filter thing like for BrutalAztecs?

[Creature]

And any argument that we should somehow keep using a word that will harmful just because we have used it for so long is the same as saying it is okay to glorify a racist with a statue or name a military base after a confederate general.

Just because it is history doesn't mean we should glorify it with public use.

No one wants to glorify a word, we just want to keep using it as it is the most practical.

This is some real "but my southern heritage" bullshit

This must be the faulty analogy fallacy.

[Ythan]

If you're gonna keep making dumb replies maybe put a modicum of effort in.

[kuribo]

Creature, I'm asking this half-seriously:

Have you ever even met a Black person?

[Vi]

I am going to ignore a lot of this thread and suggest

Execute

as a functional replacement.

end_Day.exe

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Explain why EXECUTE is not a practical solution that does not have a racial history. It fits the theme, it functions very clearly as and executions tend to be done in public, and in the past by public consent.

Execution seems to be done by an authority instead of simple citizens desperate to take justice into their own hands.

Most games it should be doable

, but it'll still be confusing if the mod decides to add a role that involves executing.

That's your argument.

That it will be confusing if a Mod.... in DESIGNING THEIR GAME... adds a role that kills a player... and wants to use the flavour execute....

Then in that game, the mod could build the flavour around this, right?

Since when has a single case scenario ever been sufficient to be a good argument?

You yourself said it, see bolded. Most games it should be functionally completely the same, and in the small case where someone wants to use Execution flavour for a role, they could find other words for either the town vote kill OR the execution ability. Case by case for a small thing like that, and in return for something that you have yoruself ADMITTED WORKS.

We get to remove something that represents systemic racist bias in our community once and for all.

Why are you still opposed again?

[Creature]

If you're gonna keep making dumb replies maybe put a modicum of effort in.

Yeah, someone compares the usage of a common mafia terminology to intentionally being racist and I am the one making dumb replies.

[Ythan]

Part of being an effective conservative is being good at making up palatable explanations for your trash views. Work on that.

[Ythan]

If you're gonna keep making dumb replies maybe put a modicum of effort in.

Yeah, someone compares the usage of a common mafia terminology to intentionally being racist and I am the one making dumb replies.

I don't recall anyone saying you were intentionally racist but it's a fast moving thread. You're likely just ignorant and not open to consideration or change.

[Creature]

Creature, I'm asking this half-seriously:

Have you ever even met a Black person?

I live in a country that almost half of the population identifies as brown/black. Pretty sure I met plenty and even am related to plenty.

[shaft.ed]

shit gets renamed in biology all the time
I've never heard one single person bring up the 'but my heritage' argument in the field
its really difficult to figure out what the difference is

[kuribo]

I live in a country that almost half of the population identifies as brown/black. Pretty sure I met plenty and even am related to plenty.

so then, do you understand that helping Black folks feel welcome in this community is more important than keeping a word just because "it was always done that way?"

[Creature]

Why are you still opposed again?

It is not the most practical and exceptions should be made for setups involving a setting that uses lynch for non-racial reasons.

[Ythan]

Why are you still opposed again?

It is not the most practical and exceptions should be made for setups involving a setting that uses lynch for non-racial reasons.

But this is a dumb fucking argument that you've yet to support.

[Creature]

I live in a country that almost half of the population identifies as brown/black. Pretty sure I met plenty and even am related to plenty.

so then, do you understand that helping Black folks feel welcome in this community is more important than keeping a word just because "it was always done that way?"

I can't grasp why they wouldn't feel welcome just because of a word that isn't even used for racial reasons. I don't care what word you prefer to use, just would rather not be met with constant word policing.