Micro 955: Variant Nomination Mafia (Game Over)

Varsoon · Post Post #125 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:13 pm

Like, would getting Hellbrook's reads help?
Would hellbrooks commenting on any specific part of the game help?
I want to know what would help you more confidently read Hellbrooks
Because as it stands, I'm not all too happy with you having nominated someone you're not even pushing engagement with (despite the vote) but state what feels like a sort of unsure read of.

P-EDIT:
I don't know that it's all too scummy to do what they did. Can you explain what makes that scum play?

DkKoba · Post Post #126 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:16 pm

I think I'd rather wait for hellbooks to actually post themselves before I make any comments about that at the moment (:

Raya36 · Post Post #127 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:21 pm

In post 117, DkKoba wrote:I am more paranoid of raya though and I want to go back to sheeping my drunk read but I'm also suspicious of hellbooks. I just don't know anymore LOL

This sounds like town. And I remember finding dunnstral towny. I'm town. So by PoE hellbooks makes the most sense. I want to hear more from him for sure though

DkKoba · Post Post #128 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:30 pm

on god is everyone here on EU timezone or what

DkKoba · Post Post #129 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:31 pm

In post 127, Raya36 wrote:
In post 117, DkKoba wrote:I am more paranoid of raya though and I want to go back to sheeping my drunk read but I'm also suspicious of hellbooks. I just don't know anymore LOL
This sounds like town. And I remember finding dunnstral towny. I'm town. So by PoE hellbooks makes the most sense. I want to hear more from him for sure though

how does that make hellbooks scum to you. why is it that they are "poe" scum based on that. do the other 3 players in the game not exist?

DkKoba · Post Post #130 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:32 pm

it annoys me when people don't really try and I appreciate that varsoon is also trying but there has to be at least one other person here ya know.

Dunnstral · Post Post #131 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:32 pm

Raya you always think I'm town

Dunnstral · Post Post #132 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:33 pm

In post 130, DkKoba wrote:it annoys me when people don't really try and I appreciate that varsoon is also trying but there has to be at least one other person here ya know.

I am suspicious of Nash as well

DkKoba · Post Post #133 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:33 pm

like fr I think hellbooks hammering me with little explaination was fairly scummy and they seemed detached and just sheeping the wagon that had most votes and people need to see that

Raya36 · Post Post #134 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:38 pm

In post 129, DkKoba wrote:
In post 127, Raya36 wrote:
In post 117, DkKoba wrote:I am more paranoid of raya though and I want to go back to sheeping my drunk read but I'm also suspicious of hellbooks. I just don't know anymore LOL
This sounds like town. And I remember finding dunnstral towny. I'm town. So by PoE hellbooks makes the most sense. I want to hear more from him for sure though
how does that make hellbooks scum to you. why is it that they are "poe" scum based on that. do the other 3 players in the game not exist?

PoE of the best lynch within the lynch pool. I'm ignoring the others in this particular PoE

Raya36 · Post Post #135 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:40 pm

In post 131, Dunnstral wrote:Raya you always think I'm town

Yeah.. you're right.

Time to scumread Dunn for a change

In all seriousness my read on you is for the mechanic suggestions. We both have the same sort of idea

DkKoba · Post Post #136 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:51 pm

In post 135, Raya36 wrote:
In post 131, Dunnstral wrote:Raya you always think I'm town
Yeah.. you're right.

Time to scumread Dunn for a change

In all seriousness my read on you is for the mechanic suggestions. We both have the same sort of idea

Pings me that you are so sure abt this based on something so flimsy

Raya36 · Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:07 pm

Never said I was so sure. It's only page 6. But hellbooks is more scummy because I don't have any town points for him weak or not

Varsoon · Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:14 pm

I'm always around if you wanna sound stuff off of me

Nash · Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:45 pm

I didn't realise I hammered Koba there.. Hopefully I didn't hurt our chances too much and disappoint the test administrators.

I believe we should come to a solid consensus on who town is before killing someone today.

Assuming pure randomness, the chances of picking (T,T) is almost as much as picking (T,S), and picking (S,S) is negligible.
I think a good course of action would be to let the consensus town come to an agreement on who the scummiest players are each day (scum will have to be as reasonable as possible in (T,S), which will benefit town) and put them up as nominations, like a townbloc. This should give us a good mechanical advantage IMO and I'd like to hear what everyone has to say about it.

Nash · Post Post #140 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:10 am

Wrong usage of

"mechanical"

, but an advantage nonetheless

ISO · Post Post #141 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:17 am

Im moving across the country so youll have to wait until at least the end of today

ISO · Post Post #142 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:19 am

Poe doesnt make sense like dkkoba could simply be wrong about everyone

ISO · Post Post #143 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:20 am

I guess if im the least town then yea sure whatever
Anyway ill think about it later

Varsoon · Post Post #144 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:55 am

Congrats on the move, hellbooks.
I loathe moving but am grateful for it when it's done with.
I'd like to know more of your thoughts on the game when you have the chance.

DkKoba · Post Post #145 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:12 am

you know it disappoints me when I'm not around for over 12 hours and theres like about 8 posts worth of content which makes me actually pretty fucking nervous. I don't have anything updated about the people within the nomination to say,

Can we please play the game because I'm falling asleep at the pace here

Varsoon · Post Post #146 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:40 am

Pose questions.
Pressure slots you don't have read confidence on.
Drive the engagement you want to see.
I'm here.

DkKoba · Post Post #147 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:16 am

In post 135, Raya36 wrote:
In post 131, Dunnstral wrote:Raya you always think I'm town
Yeah.. you're right.

Time to scumread Dunn for a change

In all seriousness my read on you is for the mechanic suggestions. We both have the same sort of idea

ok so any reason you think this is town raya? because I'm not buying this casing.

DkKoba · Post Post #148 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:17 am

In post 104, Nash wrote:
In post 97, hellbooks wrote:
In post 95, Nash wrote:Just so you know, hellbooks was the last player to confirm. Not sure why no one pointed this out.
Huh? i like confirmed immediately. i just didn't check the game thread. lol.
Doesn't matter.
In post 31, DkKoba wrote:
In post 13, Yukino wrote:At the time of my confirmation 5/7 confirmed.
Meaning 1 player confirmed and decided not to post.

I think that indicates scum being in Varsono and Hellbook
this is a likely town post and if they're telling the truth we narrowed down at least 1 mafia pretty quick.
Koba's wording here suggests he still considered the possibility of scum!hellbooks even when the six other players posted at 6/7 confirmations. That's bad and looks scummy. His subsequent posting also makes me doubt my initial townlean on him.

Nominate: DkKoba
for now.

so you hammered without asking me to clarify / question me?

I was going to avoid pressuring outisde the nomination but I feel like I'm hitting a wall with the current activity and engagement

DkKoba · Post Post #149 (ISO) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:19 am

In post 74, Varsoon wrote:DkKoba - I think we're on different pages about what you were doing. I'm talking about you putting stock into the whole 'confirmed players who haven't posted = scum' thing. You townreading Yukino for that logic also doesn't make sense to me, but I'm less critical of that.
You might not like my methods, but I don't know most of you or how you play. I'm trying to parse that, since I don't have meta knowledge to really determine what's baseline town or scum play for any of you.

any reason you think the yukino opening is not town motivated? I'm not going to base my whole read on that but I felt it was a good starting point in "solve pressure" as I like to call it.