Newbie 2016: Snapdragons (Game Over)

[LuckyLuciano]

He's mafia, my vote is no longer random.

[72offsuit]

He's mafia, my vote is no longer random.

Agreed.

VOTE: Blopp

[72offsuit]

VOTE: Blopp is at L-2.

[72offsuit]

Err E-2

[Blopp]

Hmm. Well this is only my second game, and my first one was out of RVS and humming along pretty quickly. So... not sure if there are any other good strategies to break the ice a little.

I'm so glad you asked!
There is a fantastic scumhunting tool called RQS (that's Random Question Stage to the uninitiated).
I do not proclaim to have devised this foolproof tool.

1. What is your experience in mafia outside of mafiascum?
2. Do you prefer playing as town or scum?
3. What do you think of lynching lurkers?
4. What do you think of lynching liars?

1. This is my first forum game but I have played mafia (or werewolf) a few times at parties live (or IRL as the cool kids say it).
2. I haven't played enough to say if I have a preference yet but town was fun when I played with my friends. One of my friends has a really bad poker face so it was fairly easy to see that she was lying to us. I had an "Aha!" moment.
3. I would say not good. Sometimes someone is shy but innocent. I think I'd rather try to hear their thought process first.
4. I'd say good?

What about you @72offsuit?

[Nahdia]

Vote Count 1.01

Blopp (2):

LuckyLuciano, 72offsuit

LuckyLuciano (2):

ClarkBar, Homura

ClarkBar (2):

Blopp, TheThirteenthJT

Echovision (1):

Raya36

Not Voting (2):

individual, EchoVision

Deadline is in

(expired on 2020-07-11 13:52:07)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With nine players alive, it takes

five

to reach majority.

Mod Note:

The countdown for role PM confirmation continues. Players who have not yet confirmed must still do so or be replaced.

[72offsuit]

E-3*

[72offsuit]

Hmm. Well this is only my second game, and my first one was out of RVS and humming along pretty quickly. So... not sure if there are any other good strategies to break the ice a little.

I'm so glad you asked!
There is a fantastic scumhunting tool called RQS (that's Random Question Stage to the uninitiated).
I do not proclaim to have devised this foolproof tool.

1. What is your experience in mafia outside of mafiascum?
2. Do you prefer playing as town or scum?
3. What do you think of lynching lurkers?
4. What do you think of lynching liars?

1. This is my first forum game but I have played mafia (or werewolf) a few times at parties live (or IRL as the cool kids say it).
2. I haven't played enough to say if I have a preference yet but town was fun when I played with my friends. One of my friends has a really bad poker face so it was fairly easy to see that she was lying to us. I had an "Aha!" moment.
3. I would say not good. Sometimes someone is shy but innocent. I think I'd rather try to hear their thought process first.
4. I'd say good?

What about you @72offsuit?

Nah, ill abstain from answering . The RQS tool is incompatible with myself. My alignment cannot be verified via RQS.

[72offsuit]

He's mafia, my vote is no longer random.

(s)he's*

The devil is in the detail.

[Raya36]

UNVOTE: 72
VOTE: Blopp

Why the change of vote?
Same question for 72

[ClarkBar]

1. What is your experience in mafia outside of mafiascum?

Some IRL stuff that worked differently than here but the same basic premise.

2. Do you prefer playing as town or scum?

Don't know. I was town my last game. I think I would want to have more experience in hunting and identifying scum before I actually played as scum.

3. What do you think of lynching lurkers?

Depends on what the activity looks like. If somebody is posting

just enough

safe content then I'm happy with pressure on that slot. I would never want that player at L-1 again, that's for sure.

4. What do you think of lynching liars?

Against it. Honesty is not AI. Last game traumatized me on both of those two last questions.

What happened to make the RVS go so quickly in your other game?

The player I put my RV on voted for subsequently voted for themselves and explained how when they are town they appear scummy and vice-versa. His attitude and prolific posting got things going quick.

[ClarkBar]

He's mafia, my vote is no longer random.

Explain?

[TheThirteenthJT]

Hmm. Well this is only my second game, and my first one was out of RVS and humming along pretty quickly. So... not sure if there are any other good strategies to break the ice a little.

I'm so glad you asked!
There is a fantastic scumhunting tool called RQS (that's Random Question Stage to the uninitiated).
I do not proclaim to have devised this foolproof tool.

1. What is your experience in mafia outside of mafiascum?
2. Do you prefer playing as town or scum?
3. What do you think of lynching lurkers?
4. What do you think of lynching liars?

1. Extensive play close to 10 yrs ago. Third game here.
2. Mafia.
3. You know my answer here. Not really but might be changing my opinion on this. Depends on circumstances.
4. A bit of weird question. Context is important.


Now let me add two more.

1. Are you a straightforward player or like to do a lot of private analysis?
2. How upset would you be if you are lynched Day 1 from a scale of 1-10? 10 being highly upset.

[LuckyLuciano]

UNVOTE: 72
VOTE: Blopp

Why the change of vote?
Same question for 72

He's mafia, my vote is no longer random.

Explain?

7 is a slight ping. It's a commonly known tell that true newbies are statistically more likely to start their first post in forum games with a greeting when they roll mafia.

23 is a slightly larger ping. It's LAMIST (Look at me, I'm so town). She's 'trying to move from RVS' by asking Clark what moved their game from RVS without moving the game forward herself. More specifically, she's offering content that at first glance appears to look town but upon closer inspection is not in any way AI because it doesn't offer any real thoughts. That's typically scum.

Finally, I don't like how she disappeared after getting 2 votes on her in quick succession. She posted after them, and with the preview feature she has to have seen them. Seems panicky to just dip out like that.

[Raya36]

I want to see what comes of this so I'll sheep you

VOTE: Blopp

[ClarkBar]

7 is a slight ping. It's a commonly known tell that true newbies are statistically more likely to start their first post in forum games with a greeting when they roll mafia.

Hmm, ok. So why didn't you vote for me? Or more Homura, who arguably ducked out even harder...

23 is a slightly larger ping. It's LAMIST (Look at me, I'm so town). She's 'trying to move from RVS' by asking Clark what moved their game from RVS without moving the game forward herself. More specifically, she's offering content that at first glance appears to look town but upon closer inspection is not in any way AI because it doesn't offer any real thoughts. That's typically scum.

Yeah, I get what you're saying, but that appears to be way more of a way of moving the conversation than intentional fluff posting. She even threw a wink at the end referencing my post about breaking the ice.

Finally, I don't like how she disappeared after getting 2 votes on her in quick succession. She posted after them, and with the preview feature she has to have seen them. Seems panicky to just dip out like that.

Maybe she didn't take it seriously. I do want to see her respond to your points for herself, I just find your reasons pretty thin.

[LuckyLuciano]

@Clark, you have a completed game. Homura has many completed games.

If you want to move the game from RVS, why are you defending Blopp instead of seeing what comes of this?

Also, do not go out of your way to explain the reasoning of others. You are not a God who can read minds, none of us are. Let them explain themselves.

[ClarkBar]

Not defending Blopp, just responding to your reasons for voting her so you can flesh them out a bit for me. I'm not being a God who can read your mind, so I'm asking you to explain yourself. I think that's fair. I'm happy for Blopp to speak for herself.

Also, apologies if I come off as a little eager. The pace of this game is glacial compared to what I'm used to.

[ClarkBar]

Now let me add two more.

1. Are you a straightforward player or like to do a lot of private analysis?
2. How upset would you be if you are lynched Day 1 from a scale of 1-10? 10 being highly upset.

1. I guess I'm straightforward? I might ask questions for my own reasons, but I'll always share my thinking when placing a vote or when engaging in a debate.

2. Not too upset, maybe a 4? It would really depend on whether or not my Lynch has any worth one way or another.

[Raya36]

7 is a slight ping. It's a commonly known tell that true newbies are statistically more likely to start their first post in forum games with a greeting when they roll mafia.

Hmm, ok. So why didn't you vote for me? Or more Homura, who arguably ducked out even harder...

23 is a slightly larger ping. It's LAMIST (Look at me, I'm so town). She's 'trying to move from RVS' by asking Clark what moved their game from RVS without moving the game forward herself. More specifically, she's offering content that at first glance appears to look town but upon closer inspection is not in any way AI because it doesn't offer any real thoughts. That's typically scum.

Yeah, I get what you're saying, but that appears to be way more of a way of moving the conversation than intentional fluff posting. She even threw a wink at the end referencing my post about breaking the ice.

Finally, I don't like how she disappeared after getting 2 votes on her in quick succession. She posted after them, and with the preview feature she has to have seen them. Seems panicky to just dip out like that.

Maybe she didn't take it seriously. I do want to see her respond to your points for herself, I just find your reasons pretty thin.

Why are you responding to this instead of letting Blopp respond... how are we supposed to get info put of Blopp if you respond for them? Do you town read Blopp? Or scumread Lucky?

[Raya36]

The only reason I'm not moving my vote to Clark is because I want to hear from Blopp

[ClarkBar]

No reads yet. I was surprised by the certainty from Lucky and wanted to follow up on that. I'm giving my response to Lucky's reasons, not answering for anybody else.

[Raya36]

But by giving a response you're making it easier for scum!Blopp to get out of a tough situation by just saying what you said is correct and maybe expanding on it. We get no info anymore unless Blopp decides to say something extremely different from what you said.

A general guideline that's good to follow is to never respond for someone else. It only ruins the potential to gain new info from that player. Especially if what you're responding to is a case, like what you responded to

[ClarkBar]

But by giving a response you're making it easier for scum!Blopp to get out of a tough situation by just saying what you said is correct and maybe expanding on it. We get no info anymore unless Blopp decides to say something extremely different from what you said.

A general guideline that's good to follow is to never respond for someone else. It only ruins the potential to gain new info from that player. Especially if what you're responding to is a case, like what you responded to

Ok, that's fair. I guess my instinct is to engage with other players, and the Blopp wagon and the reasons behind it seemed a good way to do that. I do see your point.

[Raya36]

If you're town and not scum trying to limit info or defend a buddy I'd suggest sharing those thoughts after Blopp responds. They're still good thoughts but better left when we hear from the person intended to respond