Smuggler's Port [Game Over]

[Menalque]

Yoink

[Datisi]

hi he(ctic)l, thanks for helping me

[username]

Change shipment: Copper

Gonna refine that shit into chromatic metal awww yeah

[Hel]

Are you trying to imply I'm the Tomboy Daughter?? I just said I'm not.

[Menalque]

We’re gonna have to try really hard to play off my opening post as a joke datisi otherwise we’re gonna lose lmao

[Datisi]

mena no this isn't the super secret port authority tomboy daughter mason pt

[Menalque]

mena no this isn't the super secret port authority tomboy daughter mason pt

So you’re saying you have a PT

HMMMMMM

[notscience]

hardclaim port authority

datisi is the tomboy daughter

Ship: linen

Vote: Iconeum

for an

iconic

D1 execution![/b]

I would CC but my pa said it’s not ladylike.

Back after work.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.1

Titus [1] - Umlaut
Iconeum [2] - Datisi, Menalque
Umlaut [1] - Not Known 15
Alisae [1] - Titus
NorwegianboyEE [1] - Hel

Not Voting [11]

- Alisae, Maki Harukawa, username, Moment, GuiltyLion, Something_Smart, maxwell, Iconeum, Radical Rat, notscience, NorwegianboyEE

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-07-11 13:35:31)

I am shipping...

Linen

[13] - Alisae, Maki Harukawa, Moment, GuiltyLion, Something_Smart, Not Known 15, maxwell, Menalque, Hel, Iconeum, Radical Rat, notscience, Umlaut

Copper

[3] - Titus, NorwegianboyEE, username

Wheat

[1] - Datisi

Let's Inspect...

Linen

[0] -

Copper

[1] - Hel

Wheat

[0] -

[Umlaut]

@mod

is it possible to have the shipping counts listed separately from the votes, so that it's easier to see how many people are shipping each item?

[Menalque]

this is incredibly petty but: FakeGod, my name takes a capital at the start, if you wouldn’t mind for future VCs

[NorwegianboyEE]

this is incredibly petty but: FakeGod, my name takes a capital at the start, if you wouldn’t mind for future VCs

Jeez, at least your name was spelled right. Have some gratitude ya snob.

[Menalque]

thanks, FG

[Hel]

Oh, everyone's shipping Linen by default. Boring.

Ship: Wheat

[Titus]

Oh, everyone's shipping Linen by default. Boring.

Ship: Wheat

Hey, I am shipping Copper or am I a nobody now?

[Hel]

Get off your copper high horse, Titus. Wheat is superior in every way. What you going to do when the war comes and food runs low, huh? I'll be here with my delicious wheat while you can try munching down on your precious copper.

[Umlaut]

Inspect: Wheat

Fewest shippers = best inspection.

[Hel]

I think we want to check like 3 or 4 people we think are not Tomboy Daughters. Getting clears on everyone in the inspection is more valuable than getting a Tea result.

[Menalque]

I think we should talk about the tomboy daughter as little as possible

[Titus]

Get off your copper high horse, Titus. Wheat is superior in every way. What you going to do when the war comes and food runs low, huh? I'll be here with my delicious wheat while you can try munching down on your precious copper.

I take my copper blade, stab you, and then use it to harvest wheat.

[GuiltyLion]

What's the best way to handle shipments? Should we spread out more or less evenly across them? Should we order the scummiest person to ship copper all on their own?

I mostly play normal games (and open games that might as well be normal) so if there's theory around this kind of mechanic I'm not familiar with it.

I've never played a setup like this before and I need to do a lot more ~ thinking ~ but these were my initial takes:

- Overall, it seems like Town has to juggle gathering enough information to find at least 2 smugglers, while also preventing scum from obtaining enough information to find the TD
- From a 'deny information regarding the TD' standpoint, the worst case scenario for scum is for them to be split across all three shipments, this gets them no closer to finding the TD
- Therefore I suspect scum will try to avoid at least one shipment, to aim to clear some number of townies as

not

TD, even if it means those townies are also conftown
- This leads me to be thinking about if the ideal way for town to play would be to check a shipment of 3 or 4 people each night, hoping to hit tea (but no TD), and then eliminate from within that pool - I haven't crunched any numbers on this at all though
- The only way to definitively avoid TD being in the pool is for PA to claim and organize the shipments. I'm not sure if this is ideal though bc PA would then have to be extremely careful/guarded about all reads that they give, and it would also mean the game kinda becomes 'follow the IC' to a degree which I'm not sure would be all that fun either.

So in my mind, I'm thinking about whether the PA should claim and at what point. I do kinda gutfeel if we start to get close to PoEing by like Day 3 or Day 4, the PA should claim and organize the last shipment or two to avoid outing the TD. Or if we're feeling really confident (eliminated a Smuggler D1 or something), we could collectively just rerun a shipment of already town cleared.

There's also the question of whether the PA should ever decline to check a shipment to WIFOM the scums, but I haven't put a ton of thought into that yet. It's a move to consider though.

[Hel]

Get off your copper high horse, Titus. Wheat is superior in every way. What you going to do when the war comes and food runs low, huh? I'll be here with my delicious wheat while you can try munching down on your precious copper.

I take my copper blade, stab you, and then use it to harvest wheat.

Nah, no way you're getting to me if I'm surrounded by all this wheat. It's like a full body armor suit.

[Moment]

this is incredibly petty but: FakeGod, my name takes a capital at the start, if you wouldn’t mind for future VCs

I'd also like to be capitalized. Perhaps FakeGod just has it out for us "M"s. By which of course I mean Me and my Mafia partner, Menalque.

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I think we should talk about the tomboy daughter as little as possible

This is correct. This setup is also hilariously scumsided if the TD does not play well.

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Ship: Wheat

Inspect: Copper

VOTE: Norwegianboy

Early townlean on notscience, Hel. Early scumlean on Titus.

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Datisi

Datisi are you excited to play?? You don't

feel

excited to play

[Moment]

Despite my typical inclination towards town, I'm actually slightly disappointed to not have been made mafia here.

I don't consider myself a bad scumhunter necessarily, but I have no doubt that figuring out the TD as scum would be a much easier task for me.