Micro 955: Variant Nomination Mafia (Game Over)

[Dunnstral]

Well I don't feel great about a hellbooks lynch at the moment either. We're locked into the choice that was made, though.

[hellbooks]

They think it's cool to lynch someone for coasting.

Weird thing to say

What about the nature of Hellbook lurking puts them below Dunn for you?

i'm simply not lurking
that's just like a falsehood

I just don't find he's saying much. Read through his iso and see if he says anything committal or game advancing.

are you talking about me here
if so why r u using they for dunnstral and he for me
that's like 0/2 on pronoun reads
that's just flat out confusing

[Dunnstral]

So why do you think I'm mafia, hellbooks?

[Dunnstral]

I consider 'they' to be neutral

[hellbooks]

i townread raya and kind of townread dkkoba, nothing from the replacement, null on dunn, yukino varsoon nash none are great, probably null scum to scum. idk. so... yeah. that's why i'm voting dunn.

pedit well they're the answer to your q.

[hellbooks]

*there's. sorry lol. you were talking about 'they' and it got in my head

[Raya36]

I just don't find he's saying much. Read through his iso and see if he says anything committal or game advancing.

are you talking about me here
if so why r u using they for dunnstral and he for me
that's like 0/2 on pronoun reads
that's just flat out confusing

Yes, that's about you. Sorry idk why my pronouns are wrong and inconsistent. I'll pay more attention

[Raya36]

I consider 'they' to be neutral

Not game related but I generally use they when I can't remember or don't know. I forgot for Hellbooks and defaulted to he. sorry

[hellbooks]

its ok. anyway- i feel like i have committed to many a stance; advanced many a game

[Raya36]

i townread raya and kind of townread dkkoba, nothing from the replacement, null on dunn, yukino varsoon nash none are great, probably null scum to scum. idk. so... yeah. that's why i'm voting dunn.

pedit well they're the answer to your q.

So can I conclude from this you prefer a Dunn lynch as of now?

[hellbooks]

i am like literally voting him

[Raya36]

I want to engage with the mechanic of the game rather than treating it like it doesn't exist.
Feels against the spirit of the setup to do anything else.

Very slight "self-consciousness" ping.

In my experience, WIFOM tends to favor scum.

Agree w this ftr: i think it makes far more sense to nom a townread in the early game and

consider

nomming scumreads later in the game to force their hand?

What a boring entrance, you can do better then that!

Sorry. here's my real entrance.

Hellbrooks: Can you comment a bit more on the gamestate and your thoughts on players so far?

ya sure sure... hm... wouldn't agree with townread on yukino or scumread on raya... well both trend a little null i think. your one post i highlighted is tonally kinda scummy. dkkoba maybe scum just off the tailend of 59 and 60, both not great. just let me chill a little bit tho.
83 liking yukino a bit now.

I actually find statements like this to be quite towny.

I

urge

caution on this!!!!!

Just so you know, hellbooks was the last player to confirm. Not sure why no one pointed this out.

Huh? i like confirmed immediately. i just didn't check the game thread. lol.

This post for example has nothing committal.

hellbrooks: they've been lurky in the shadows and suddenly came out to hammer the vote on me which I find scum asf. imma be real I have a suspicion that they're teamed with raya for the move they did there.

i've been

moving

...... also i

didnt

hammer... jeez....
this sucks!!!

include a third I reskimmed quickly and made my choice that way.

why so cavalier about it

raya
dunn
dkkoba
(t -> s)

like fr I think hellbooks hammering me with little explaination was fairly scummy and they seemed detached and just sheeping the wagon that had most votes and people need to see that

i didnt hammer you

I loathe moving but am grateful for it when it's done with.

yeah i'm tired af, thanks

ok so any reason you think this is town raya? because I'm not buying this casing.

it might not be a good read but it circumstantially can definitely come from town in fact one might say (I might say) that it has higher town equity

and I demand an explaination because at this point it feels like there's setup going on here where you force a nomination on me but also offer shade on other slots to set them up as MLs.

i have no explanation other than gut

I'm also pretty curious why DkKoba didn't nominate me but I wasn't going to ask since I'm already pretty self-absorbed.

this is mediumly scummy

Same for this one.

And most of your posts between are similar or fluff (I chose those just because they are larger posts with more responses)

[Raya36]

i am like literally voting him

Well yes but this doesn't sound like you scumread him:

VOTE: dunnstral
whatever lets be bad... lets be a little cheeky...

[hellbooks]

do you want me to be like signing a contract in blood about how i will think varsoon is scum for the next two years

[Raya36]

No but I'd like committed reads. Nothing at all was committed and that reads as either scum who is having trouble making scum cases on players they know are town, scum trying to keep options open while looking busy, or town not using their ability to pressure to it's full potential.

[Varsoon]

UNVOTE:
Phone posting for the first time a my entire Mafia career. I'm also using text-to-speech for the first time in my entire Mafia career. How exciting. Anyway Riya is now my top to vote for in this pool. I do not want to vote books. I suppose this is speech-to-text actually, it makes it very hard to get players names but maybe I can just write those. Anyway, sorry if I got any pronouns mixed up, I tend to use they and neutral pronouns for other players unless they explicitly ask.

[Dunnstral]

My biggest suspects are Nash and Yukino

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

let's kill someone already

[Nash]

I'm pretty sure both scum exist in the nom pool. Gut town pings from Varsoon and Yukino. Hellbook's 143 and DkKoba's unrestrained posting make me townlean both of them as well.

That narrows it down to Dunn and Raya.

So, I suppose my question is this:
If everyone in the pool is town by your take and you think I'm town:
What makes Nash and Yukino scum?

If I'm correct and the pool is entirely town and you're town then Nash and Yukino would have to be scum by PoE. But Nash is scummy for that quick lynch and I find it difficult to believe that he didn't check before voting (although maybe I'm paranoid of accidentally quick lynching). 139 seems like busy work. Yukino is just null to me so purely PoE if this is the case.

I didn't quick kill anyone. What scum agenda do you find in that hammer? Why would scum!me think doing that is in anyway beneficial?

i townread raya and kind of townread dkkoba, nothing from the replacement, null on dunn, yukino varsoon nash none are great, probably null scum to scum. idk. so... yeah. that's why i'm voting dunn.

pedit well they're the answer to your q.

Why do you townread Raya?

[Nash]

let's kill someone already

Who are your top two townreads?

[Nash]

My biggest suspects are Nash and Yukino

If Yukino is null here, then that would imply you townread Raya to some extent. Do you?

[Dunnstral]

Yes I do

[Nash]

Yes I do

[Raya36]

So, I suppose my question is this:
If everyone in the pool is town by your take and you think I'm town:
What makes Nash and Yukino scum?

If I'm correct and the pool is entirely town and you're town then Nash and Yukino would have to be scum by PoE. But Nash is scummy for that quick lynch and I find it difficult to believe that he didn't check before voting (although maybe I'm paranoid of accidentally quick lynching). 139 seems like busy work. Yukino is just null to me so purely PoE if this is the case.

I didn't quick kill anyone. What scum agenda do you find in that hammer? Why would scum!me think doing that is in anyway beneficial?

Koba could be scum with you and you want them to nominate. (Although unlikely). Its possible scum!you wanted town!Koba over other players who were potential nominators. Although you have a point that there isn't much likely benefit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

let's kill someone already

Who are your top two townreads?

this game is painful to read, I tried but the flow feels wierd