Newbie 2016: Snapdragons (Game Over)

[TheThirteenthJT]

Edit: disregard last edit. Lol

[Nahdia]

Vote Count 1.06

LuckyLuciano (3):

Homura, JamSV, Raya36

Blopp (2):

LuckyLuciano, 72offsuit

ClarkBar (1):

Blopp

Homura (1):

ClarkBar

72offsuit (1):

LicketyQuickety

Raya36 (1):

TheThirteenthJT

Not Voting (0):

Deadline is in

(expired on 2020-07-11 13:52:07)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With nine players alive, it takes

five

to reach majority.

Mod Note:

Seeking replacement for Blopp. Prodding Homura and ClarkBar.

[JamSV]

The avatar removal just feels like an account deactivation. Seems like she decided forum mafia wasnt her cup of tea.
Question is, what it due to !scumher having to explain her way out of a hole, or just disliking the game overall.

See this is why I think we should wait for a replacement for her overall, I think we should give the replacement the benefit of doubt for a while after they replace in, give them a few posts to understand their town, and the intonations and such of that new player will help us work out which one it was.

In the mean time I suggest looking at the interactions around this. Raya and Homura and have struck out the most for me.

Also hypothetical question. If someone comes into the game and says they are scum and leaves. Does it matter what the replacement says? Do we give them the benefit of the doubt. I know you don't think the flake is scum indicative, I am starting to feel it's to closest thing possible a scum tell. At this point when the replacement comes in and catches up, gives us summaries of what they think, I would suggest putting them on L-1 with intent.

I wouldn't think it was scum indicative, I'd just think its a troll trying to ruin a game, which could be done from town too really, showing up claiming Scum Doctor or something then leaving to cause a mislynch. I wasn't saying to dismiss what blopp did entirely, but just for the moment so we can get a read on the new player's intonations and such.
Also - I may be misunderstanding the last paragraph, but did you mean me not thinking its scum indicative makes me a scum tell?

[TheThirteenthJT]

The avatar removal just feels like an account deactivation. Seems like she decided forum mafia wasnt her cup of tea.
Question is, what it due to !scumher having to explain her way out of a hole, or just disliking the game overall.

See this is why I think we should wait for a replacement for her overall, I think we should give the replacement the benefit of doubt for a while after they replace in, give them a few posts to understand their town, and the intonations and such of that new player will help us work out which one it was.

In the mean time I suggest looking at the interactions around this. Raya and Homura and have struck out the most for me.

Also hypothetical question. If someone comes into the game and says they are scum and leaves. Does it matter what the replacement says? Do we give them the benefit of the doubt. I know you don't think the flake is scum indicative, I am starting to feel it's to closest thing possible a scum tell. At this point when the replacement comes in and catches up, gives us summaries of what they think, I would suggest putting them on L-1 with intent.

I wouldn't think it was scum indicative, I'd just think its a troll trying to ruin a game, which could be done from town too really, showing up claiming Scum Doctor or something then leaving to cause a mislynch. I wasn't saying to dismiss what blopp did entirely, but just for the moment so we can get a read on the new player's intonations and such.
Also - I may be misunderstanding the last paragraph, but did you mean me not thinking its scum indicative makes me a scum tell?

No sorry, would have possibly been better for me to have seperated the paragraph after those two lines. Just stating where you are at vs where I am

[TheThirteenthJT]

I do have a question for you James since I have you here. Wouldn't you be holding off on voting Luciano as well until Blopps replacement is in? Your vote on them currently is on the assumption that they are going for a misvote but wouldn't that only be possible if we knew Blopp was 100 percent town? I could ask the same I guess to the other two. At this point I feel one of the scum is on that wagon and so far I find you James the most townlike.

[JamSV]

I do have a question for you James since I have you here. Wouldn't you be holding off on voting Luciano as well until Blopps replacement is in? Your vote on them currently is on the assumption that they are going for a misvote but wouldn't that only be possible if we knew Blopp was 100 percent town? I could ask the same I guess to the other two. At this point I feel one of the scum is on that wagon and so far I find you James the most townlike.

For one I, good guess with my name, you're correct. I'm not going to move my vote regardless of what happens until the replacement happens, just out of courtesy for the replacement. You're kind of correct, however I think Lucky would go for a lynch on Blopp regardless, if he was scum Blopp would be town, that I am certain about, but not necessarily the other way around. I don't necessarily think that he guns for a misvote either, I think Lucky doesn't mind killing off town Day 1, and that if he hits a scum by accident its just an added benefit. I don't like it as a play style, nor do I think its a good way to play, I don't think willingness to end a day early is pro town in any way either. Long story short, if my vote were to move, it'll be after the replacement, or we'd need a big twist / event to occur.

[TheThirteenthJT]

I do have a question for you James since I have you here. Wouldn't you be holding off on voting Luciano as well until Blopps replacement is in? Your vote on them currently is on the assumption that they are going for a misvote but wouldn't that only be possible if we knew Blopp was 100 percent town? I could ask the same I guess to the other two. At this point I feel one of the scum is on that wagon and so far I find you James the most townlike.

For one I, good guess with my name, you're correct. I'm not going to move my vote regardless of what happens until the replacement happens, just out of courtesy for the replacement. You're kind of correct, however I think Lucky would go for a lynch on Blopp regardless, if he was scum Blopp would be town, that I am certain about, but not necessarily the other way around. I don't necessarily think that he guns for a misvote either, I think Lucky doesn't mind killing off town Day 1, and that if he hits a scum by accident its just an added benefit. I don't like it as a play style, nor do I think its a good way to play, I don't think willingness to end a day early is pro town in any way either. Long story short, if my vote were to move, it'll be after the replacement, or we'd need a big twist / event to occur.

Ok the reason why I am asking is because I don't think we should be sitting tight until the replacement. I find that antItown. It could be a day or two or just an hour for them to come in and in the meantime our clock is ticking. I feel that until they come in then to explore other options in tHe meantime. It'll also help this game from feeling stale.

Also kept reading your name as Jamesv

[JamSV]

I do have a question for you James since I have you here. Wouldn't you be holding off on voting Luciano as well until Blopps replacement is in? Your vote on them currently is on the assumption that they are going for a misvote but wouldn't that only be possible if we knew Blopp was 100 percent town? I could ask the same I guess to the other two. At this point I feel one of the scum is on that wagon and so far I find you James the most townlike.

For one I, good guess with my name, you're correct. I'm not going to move my vote regardless of what happens until the replacement happens, just out of courtesy for the replacement. You're kind of correct, however I think Lucky would go for a lynch on Blopp regardless, if he was scum Blopp would be town, that I am certain about, but not necessarily the other way around. I don't necessarily think that he guns for a misvote either, I think Lucky doesn't mind killing off town Day 1, and that if he hits a scum by accident its just an added benefit. I don't like it as a play style, nor do I think its a good way to play, I don't think willingness to end a day early is pro town in any way either. Long story short, if my vote were to move, it'll be after the replacement, or we'd need a big twist / event to occur.

Ok the reason why I am asking is because I don't think we should be sitting tight until the replacement. I find that antItown. It could be a day or two or just an hour for them to come in and in the meantime our clock is ticking. I feel that until they come in then to explore other options in tHe meantime. It'll also help this game from feeling stale.

Also kept reading your name as Jamesv

You can feel free to call me James or Jam I don't mind. Also it's not anti town. At the moment, we don't have many active people partaking in the game. Even if we get an active replacement for Blopp a lot of us will still be inactive. I want to keep it on the pool of one of our more active contributors that's all.

[LicketyQuickety]

I wonder if this game just has quiet people or if certain posts simply kill it. Of course the answer with just the above bit is obviously the latter.

Yep. Quick pretty much did the same thing in Newbie 2017. No surprises scum won that game.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=83106

Is this your best defense of my vote on you is saying I killed the flow of the thread? Right after I subbed in we had an influx of like 3 pages in a relatively short time.

[LicketyQuickety]

Keep in mind the reason that LL wants Blopp out of the game is the exact reason I wanted Gorge Bailey out of the the game but in that game LL unvotes GB because they don't want to end the day that early.

[LicketyQuickety]

And why has no one really said a single word about my case on 72/LL?

[LuckyLuciano]

Keep in mind the reason that LL wants Blopp out of the game is the exact reason I wanted Gorge Bailey out of the the game but in that game LL unvotes GB because they don't want to end the day that early.

It's not at all the same. I unvoted GB because I thought he was town and preferred to kick Marashu, and I wanted more AI content from a particular replacement slot. In other words, there were better leads to follow at the time, in this game Blopp is the best lead. Guess what, Marashu and that replacement slot were both mafia. Somehow town managed to get perfect gamed after I got sick and had to replace out.

[LuckyLuciano]

And why has no one really said a single word about my case on 72/LL?

Is your case essentially that 72o asked Raya why they asked for a read of me?

[LicketyQuickety]

Keep in mind the reason that LL wants Blopp out of the game is the exact reason I wanted Gorge Bailey out of the the game but in that game LL unvotes GB because they don't want to end the day that early.

It's not at all the same. I unvoted GB because I thought he was town and preferred to kick Marashu, and I wanted more AI content from a particular replacement slot. In other words, there were better leads to follow at the time, in this game Blopp is the best lead. Guess what, Marashu and that replacement slot were both mafia. Somehow town managed to get perfect gamed after I got sick and had to replace out.

Then you were voting for a TR as Town.

[LicketyQuickety]

And why has no one really said a single word about my case on 72/LL?

Is your case essentially that 72o asked Raya why they asked for a read of me?

No.

[LuckyLuciano]

Whether my read on GB changed over time or I deliberately voted a TR as town (I don't know why I even have to offer this as an option with you), does that have any implication on this game?

[LuckyLuciano]

Then what's your case, because I'm not finding it.

[LicketyQuickety]

Whether my read on GB changed over time or I deliberately voted a TR as town (I don't know why I even have to offer this as an option with you), does that have any implication on this game?

It means that you are nerfing your Town game to up your Scum game. As such, I shall show no mercy to anyone who prioritized their Scum game over their Town game. Surely you can see you have made this bed and now you have to sleep in it?

[LuckyLuciano]

So you are assuming that I deliberately voted a TR as town, rather than my read on GB changed over time (lol), and you are advocating a policy lynch because of that?

[LicketyQuickety]

So you are assuming that I deliberately voted a TR as town, rather than my read on GB changed over time (lol), and you are advocating a policy lynch because of that?

My case can completely ignore your reasons for voting a TR as Town and still be 100% completely legit.

[LuckyLuciano]

What is your case? I don't see a case from you on me anywhere.

[LicketyQuickety]

What is your case? I don't see a case from you on me anywhere.

It can be summed up to 72 lying about your meta. I've voting 72 because he's the one who lied, but you never corrected him, so you are just as guilty given most of your case on lynching lurkers is dependent on 72's meta read on you being correct.

[LuckyLuciano]

So that's why nobody has addressed your case, it's a joke. 72o wasn't in the game you are citing. You are citing a game where you had a 300 post TvT 1v1 that I replaced into

after

the 1v1 as proof that I don't like short D1s because I unvoted an obvtown slot (which was not yet obvtown when I had voted them) because you threatened to quickhammer them in favor of eliminating a mafia slot instead, and using the time it takes to move a wagon to prod info out of the other mafia slot.

[LicketyQuickety]

So that's why nobody has addressed your case, it's a joke. 72o wasn't in the game you are citing. You are citing a game where you had a 300 post TvT 1v1 that I replaced into

after

the 1v1 as proof that I don't like short D1s because I unvoted an obvtown slot (which was not yet obvtown when I had voted them) because you threatened to quickhammer them in favor of eliminating a mafia slot instead, and using the time it takes to move a wagon to prod info out of the other mafia slot.

The facts tell a different story.

Newbie 2007: Air

Moderator:

Datisi

Player List:

1. votato
   (replaces Legarth,

   NotAJumbleOfNumbers

   )
   
   
2. Poyzin
   
   
3. 72offsuit*
   (replaces hfire)
   
   
4. jaıdenbox
   (replaces

   gibus

   ,

   LuckyLuciano*

   )
   
   
5. DkKoba
   (replaces

   QuantumQuasar*

   )
   
   
6. Marashu*
   (replaces Bdaboss333)
   
   
7. LicketyQuickety* (SE)
   (replaces

   Quick

   , their alt account)
   
   
8. GeorgeBailey* (SE)
   
   
9. Red Panda (SE)
   (replaces

   teacher*

   )

* denotes prod

Alive:

Spoiler: (2/9)

• Marashu,
  Mafia Roleblocker
  , survives and wins.
  
• Red Panda,
  Mafia Goon
  , survives and wins.

Dead:

Spoiler: (7/9)

• GeorgeBailey,
  Vanilla Townie
  , lynched Day 1
  
• 72offsuit,
  Vanilla Townie
  , killed Night 1
  
• jaıdenbox,
  Vanilla Townie
  , lynched Day 2
  
• DkKoba,
  Town Doctor
  , killed Night 2
  
• Poyzin,
  Town Cop
  , lynched Day 3
  
• votato,
  Vanilla Townie
  , killed in the Endgame
  
• LicketyQuickety,
  Vanilla Townie
  , killed in the Endgame

Events:

Spoiler: day one

Day 1 starts
VC 1.01
VC 1.02
VC 1.03
VC 1.04
VC 1.05
LuckyLuciano replaces gibus
VC 1.06
VC 1.07
VC 1.08
VC 1.09
VC 1.10
VC 1.11
VC 1.12
VC 1.13
VC 1.14
votato replaces NotAJumbleOfNumbers
LicketyQuickety replaces Quick
VC 1.15
Red Panda replaces teacher
VC 1.16
VC 1.17
DkKoba replaces QuantumQuasar
VC 1.18
VC 1.19
VC 1.20
VC 1.21
jaıdenbox replaces LuckyLuciano
VC 1.22
VC 1.23
VC 1.24
VC 1.FINAL
Day 1 ends

Spoiler: day two

Day 2 starts
VC 2.00
VC 2.01
VC 2.02
VC 2.03
VC 2.04
VC 2.05
VC 2.06
VC 2.07
VC 2.FINAL
Day 2 ends

Spoiler: day three

Day 3 starts
VC 3.00
VC 3.01
VC 3.FINAL
Day 3 ends
Game over!

Spoiler: VoteCounter Settings

Living Players

votato (replaces NotAJumbleOfNumbers)
Poyzin
Marashu
LicketyQuickety (replaces Quick; LQ)
Red Panda (replaces teacher; RP)

Links

Day 3: Post #1905

[LuckyLuciano]

They really don't, but okay, keep preaching that until you decide to actually play the game instead of continuing to try and snipe me in games so you can keep fascinating over your belief that I'm somebody that I'm not and finding new and unique reasons to vote me because of your hatred for that person.