Newbie 2016: Snapdragons (Game Over)

[72offsuit]

The avatar removal just feels like an account deactivation. Seems like she decided forum mafia wasnt her cup of tea.
Question is, what it due to !scumher having to explain her way out of a hole, or just disliking the game overall.

See this is why I think we should wait for a replacement for her overall, I think we should give the replacement the benefit of doubt for a while after they replace in,

give them a few posts to understand their town, and the intonations and such of that new player will help us work out which one it was.

Can you elaborate on the line as bolded above?:

[72offsuit]

Keep in mind the reason that LL wants Blopp out of the game is the exact reason I wanted Gorge Bailey out of the the game but in that game LL unvotes GB because they don't want to end the day that early.

That's not even close to describing the dynamic of that previous newbie game.

[72offsuit]

I am actually more sure thirteen is Scum than Raya36 at this point. Them being off wagon makes me feel weird about that slot.

Why do you scumread TTJT for being OFF a garbage-wagon?

[72offsuit]

I thought I was voting for raya

VOTE: raya

[JamSV]

The avatar removal just feels like an account deactivation. Seems like she decided forum mafia wasnt her cup of tea.
Question is, what it due to !scumher having to explain her way out of a hole, or just disliking the game overall.

See this is why I think we should wait for a replacement for her overall, I think we should give the replacement the benefit of doubt for a while after they replace in,

give them a few posts to understand their town, and the intonations and such of that new player will help us work out which one it was.

Can you elaborate on the line as bolded above?:

Sorry there was a typo in there, to understand their tone* is what I meant to say. If you don't get posts / responses from a lurker, and they get replaced, you should use the new persons intonations and opinions to work out if the lurking had scum intent or not. Of course, its fine to still be suspicious of the replacement due to their predecessor, but I think as a matter of courtesy and a matter of efficiency we hold back on the lurking suspicions for a little while.

[LicketyQuickety]

Keep in mind the reason that LL wants Blopp out of the game is the exact reason I wanted Gorge Bailey out of the the game but in that game LL unvotes GB because they don't want to end the day that early.

That's not even close to describing the dynamic of that previous newbie game.

I am actually more sure thirteen is Scum than Raya36 at this point. Them being off wagon makes me feel weird about that slot.

Why do you scumread TTJT for being OFF a garbage-wagon?

So you care why I SR someone else even though you think my case on you isn't actually a case at all? Am I getting this right? Just trying to be thorough.

[72offsuit]

Keep in mind the reason that LL wants Blopp out of the game is the exact reason I wanted Gorge Bailey out of the the game but in that game LL unvotes GB because they don't want to end the day that early.

That's not even close to describing the dynamic of that previous newbie game.

I am actually more sure thirteen is Scum than Raya36 at this point. Them being off wagon makes me feel weird about that slot.

Why do you scumread TTJT for being OFF a garbage-wagon?

So you care why I SR someone else even though you think my case on you isn't actually a case at all? Am I getting this right? Just trying to be thorough.

Obviously. Your towngame being useless aside, I still have to sort your slot.

[72offsuit]

Vote Count 1.07

LuckyLuciano (4):

Homura, JamSV, Raya36

, LicketyQuickety

Blopp (2):

LuckyLuciano, 72offsuit

ClarkBar (1):

Blopp

Homura (1):

ClarkBar

Raya36 (1):

TheThirteenthJT

Not Voting (0):

Deadline is in

(expired on 2020-07-11 13:52:07)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With nine players alive, it takes

five

to reach majority.

Mod Note:

Seeking replacement for Blopp. Homura and ClarkBar have been prodded.

I would bet the farm there is AT LEAST one scum within Homura/Jam/Raya

[LicketyQuickety]

Obviously. Your towngame being useless aside, I still have to sort your slot.

Sort away, but I have no incentive to actually play along with you given what you have said here, so I will not be answering your questions.

[JamSV]

Vote Count 1.07

LuckyLuciano (4):

Homura, JamSV, Raya36

, LicketyQuickety

Blopp (2):

LuckyLuciano, 72offsuit

ClarkBar (1):

Blopp

Homura (1):

ClarkBar

Raya36 (1):

TheThirteenthJT

Not Voting (0):

Deadline is in

(expired on 2020-07-11 13:52:07)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With nine players alive, it takes

five

to reach majority.

Mod Note:

Seeking replacement for Blopp. Homura and ClarkBar have been prodded.

I would bet the farm there is AT LEAST one scum within Homura/Jam/Raya

Out of Raya and Homura, I think it'd be Raya

[72offsuit]

Vote Count 1.07

LuckyLuciano (4):

Homura, JamSV, Raya36

, LicketyQuickety

Blopp (2):

LuckyLuciano, 72offsuit

ClarkBar (1):

Blopp

Homura (1):

ClarkBar

Raya36 (1):

TheThirteenthJT

Not Voting (0):

Deadline is in

(expired on 2020-07-11 13:52:07)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With nine players alive, it takes

five

to reach majority.

Mod Note:

Seeking replacement for Blopp. Homura and ClarkBar have been prodded.

I would bet the farm there is AT LEAST one scum within Homura/Jam/Raya

Out of Raya and Homura, I think it'd be Raya

So you agree Raya and Homura are scummy, and yet you are happy to be on LL's wagon with them?

[JamSV]

Vote Count 1.07

LuckyLuciano (4):

Homura, JamSV, Raya36

, LicketyQuickety

Blopp (2):

LuckyLuciano, 72offsuit

ClarkBar (1):

Blopp

Homura (1):

ClarkBar

Raya36 (1):

TheThirteenthJT

Not Voting (0):

Deadline is in

(expired on 2020-07-11 13:52:07)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With nine players alive, it takes

five

to reach majority.

Mod Note:

Seeking replacement for Blopp. Homura and ClarkBar have been prodded.

I would bet the farm there is AT LEAST one scum within Homura/Jam/Raya

Out of Raya and Homura, I think it'd be Raya

So you agree Raya and Homura are scummy, and yet you are happy to be on LL's wagon with them?

No I don't. If the game ended up being out of them 2 to find the last scum I think it'd be Raya, aka, I think she's scummier than Homura.

[LicketyQuickety]

So you agree Raya and Homura are scummy, and yet you are happy to be on LL's wagon with them?

I missed where they said Homura was Scummy.

[Nahdia]

Raya36 has been prodded. Now seeking replacements for Homura and ClarkBar.

[TheThirteenthJT]

It depends heavily on context. I'm onsite often playing in multiple games. Sometimes I post in all of them actively. Sometimes I'm focused on one game because it's in a critical state. Sometimes I'm just taking a step back from a particular game to let the thread breathe and see what directions other players are looking to take the game in.

I think dipping the moment a non-RVS wagon starts up on you, despite posting after the wagon started (in other words, knowing that the wagon is there), is sketchy. I'm also confused as to how people don't read the deletion of her profile pic as conceding. She deliberately logged on to delete her profile pic. Not to post, not to lurk, but to

delete

her pic. She didn't replace it, she

deleted

it and left again. That seems to be as close as you can get to closing your account on this site. Does newbie town effectively delete their account when called scum?

I want to start with LuckyLuciamo first. While it does look like a site flake, I don't know if is scum indicative. It's defienatly weird and I understand your push for it. Unfortunately we may never know the rtrue reason behind it. In newbie 2009 both of our scum slots flaked out early day so that is my only confirmed point of reference so far. I would be ok lynching here.

Now a few things else, I feel like I understand your game style quite closely with the col and mafia night one actions towards you. That was what actually started pushing me away from playing mafia when I quit. But my question to you is why would openly admit this so early game? Aren't you afraid of this putting a target on your back?

And before you ask me why I would admit this as part of my past as well, I've had a long break and I'm extremely rusty and nowhere as strong as a player as used to be.

Now as to ending the day early, it truly depends on how strong of a day phase it is. A weaker day phase would be ok to end early vs one where we get surges of vocal players. I know I haven't been doing my part so far in the game.

Like, if you are mason with 72, just say so. If you are that would make sense. But it's not really my fault I caught 72 lying about your meta and thought he was Scum for it.

Anyways, if you ARE masons with 72, which I would say is about 50/50 at this point, then I would look at Raya36 for the blatant buddy attempt as well as Thirteen for them affirming LL's meta and budying me. I DON'T think Blopp flaking is actually AI.

I don't understand your case. Is by affirming LUcianos meta based on the above? Also buddying you? I don't even know if we've interacted much yet if at all.

Also I've been off Blopp/Luciano wagon because I've explained it to Jamsv. I follow my own reads and push them over trying to expand someone else's case. It's just the way I play because I want content from all players to not give the possibility for anyone to go under the radar.

[LicketyQuickety]

I have a Scum tell (for me) specific to me and you went for it. I haven't tested it too much but all the times I have noticed, Scum has done it.

Also, not really sure what you are defending against in the above posts. My read on you is not in association with LL.

[JamSV]

Gosh this game looks like a mess regarding replacements.

[LicketyQuickety]

Gosh this game looks like a mess regarding replacements.

Uh huh. That's been happening a lot lately. Don't know why, but I don't actually need to know why to know it's happening.

[ClarkBar]

I'm here! So sorry! Let me catch up.

[ClarkBar]

I have to make the same apology I made elsewhere. It was a really insane weekend, if I had any idea what was coming I would have placed a V/LA. I'm reading and I'll have something to contribute shortly.

[TheThirteenthJT]

I have a Scum tell (for me) specific to me and you went for it. I haven't tested it too much but all the times I have noticed, Scum has done it.

Also, not really sure what you are defending against in the above posts. My read on you is not in association with LL.

Huh? You clearly are???

I'm on lunch btw so I'll look at it again after work. But I'm really confused.

[LicketyQuickety]

But I'm really confused.

Yeah, I get that a lot.

[TheThirteenthJT]

I have a scum tell as well and you just went for it.

[LicketyQuickety]

[TheThirteenthJT]