Smuggler's Port [Game Over]

[Radical Rat]

Okay, so. Idk what NK15 is at right now, but after a VC I intend to vote there unless it's hammering.

I don't like that Ico claimed instead of just letting the lack of confirmation on the inspection condemn NK instead, but what's done is done.

I would like to now amend my earlier plan for inspections. I want NK15 alone on a ship, and we investigate that one. Ico also confirms its claim of course.

Hopefully they're both Town and this is all just a huge misunderstanding, but as of right now I'm feeling NK15 is scummier out of this situation.

P-Edit: I'm a dumbass and typed this out nearly 20 hours ago but forgot to hit post. Pretend this was on Page 36, and I'll read again and hopefully be current in the morning.

[Radical Rat]

Page 38, my bad.

Past few days have been a bit rough on me, sorry for the constant disorientation

[Iconeum]

Okay, so. Idk what NK15 is at right now, but after a VC I intend to vote there unless it's hammering.

I don't like that Ico claimed instead of just letting the lack of confirmation on the inspection condemn NK instead, but what's done is done.

I would like to now amend my earlier plan for inspections. I want NK15 alone on a ship, and we investigate that one. Ico also confirms its claim of course.

Hopefully they're both Town and this is all just a huge misunderstanding, but as of right now I'm feeling NK15 is scummier out of this situation.

P-Edit: I'm a dumbass and typed this out nearly 20 hours ago but forgot to hit post. Pretend this was on Page 36, and I'll read again and hopefully be current in the morning.

i don't really like this idea for a variety of reasons

and i'm also contemplating not pushing NK for execution today
we can put him in the investigation bracket, but not by himself

[Radical Rat]

Okay, I skimmed instead of sleeping, and yeah, I stand by everything I said above with a side of Large Suspicion on everyone insisting NK15 has to die RIGHT NOW or he somehow survives the whole game.

We have the means to get either a modclear or modguilty on him. His fakeclaim strat makes no sense as Town, and very little sense as Scum, and I see no downside to making sure before we kill anybody.

Also I'm now reading my earlier post and don't know why I said I'd be voting NK15 at the same time as saying I want to investigate him instead... I guess I changed my mind mid-post? Idfk.

[Radical Rat]

Okay, so. Idk what NK15 is at right now, but after a VC I intend to vote there unless it's hammering.

I don't like that Ico claimed instead of just letting the lack of confirmation on the inspection condemn NK instead, but what's done is done.

I would like to now amend my earlier plan for inspections. I want NK15 alone on a ship, and we investigate that one. Ico also confirms its claim of course.

Hopefully they're both Town and this is all just a huge misunderstanding, but as of right now I'm feeling NK15 is scummier out of this situation.

P-Edit: I'm a dumbass and typed this out nearly 20 hours ago but forgot to hit post. Pretend this was on Page 36, and I'll read again and hopefully be current in the morning.

i don't really like this idea for a variety of reasons

and i'm also contemplating not pushing NK for execution today
we can put him in the investigation bracket, but not by himself

Why not by himself? If he's Town and Scum winds up on the same ship, then we just end up Misclowning him anyway. If he's Scum, then having any number of other people on that ship doesn't give us any more information than if he were alone.

[Not Known 15]

I think 5 is too large of a pool

if you make it 4 i'd put datisi/maki/SS/ + either NK (if we don't exectue him - and with Tea found he's probably first to go anyway) or maybe someone like Moment/notscience in it if we execute NK

Iconeum

, you are the PA.
Every time you name someone to be checked they are confirmed not TD. Start understanding the mechanics.

Ok, Iconeum plays horribly, as PA.
Now that Iconeum has named 5 people to be Not TD I propose the following:

1.Iconeum starts trying to understand the mechanics.

2. Datisi, Maki, SS, Moment, and notscience go to wheat, as do I, everybody else who is in Wheat moves out.

3. If someone from the above did not comply within 72 hours they get lynched after everybody who should moved to wheat and everybody else who shouldnt moved out.

3.(Alternative) If everybody from the group in 2. moved in and everybody moved out in time we lynch me because then you can look for the real scum in that group if you find tea, OR we lynch someone else from that group(my preferred solution) who is actually scum, which is better.(that would be notscience here)

[Not Known 15]

Ship:Wheat

[Iconeum]

Ok, Iconeum plays horribly, as PA.

Ho hum, and a big 'ol middlefinger to you 2, chap!
I didn't wanna be in this position in day 1, but *someone* forced my hand

as far as mechanics go, i assure you i have been understanding them since i signed up for this.

the one thing i was unsure about was how to handle these douches who thought it was smart to fake claim PA and try to fake-lead on town

[Alisae]

This game is a loss

[Menalque]

This game is a loss

Hey now, only if you have a town role PM!

[Menalque]

Icon tho seriously when are you gonna stop CCing people who claim your PR

[Iconeum]

Icon tho seriously when are you gonna stop CCing people who claim your PR

Why do people always fake claim my role?

Ali, I don't see a problem. You can scumhunt to your heart's content if you help make a good bracket for investigation

[maxwell]

I think 5 is too large of a pool

if you make it 4 i'd put datisi/maki/SS/ + either NK (if we don't exectue him - and with Tea found he's probably first to go anyway) or maybe someone like Moment/notscience in it if we execute NK

It has to be either 5 or 3 - 4 is splitting the difference to an unhappy middle. If we inspect 5 and find tea, we execute one tomorrow and inspect two of that group in case we choose wrong. If it's three with tea, we execute one and inspect one of the remaining two. If we did four, we'd have to inspect two on day 2 anyway, and leave one player as the remainder - basically the same as five but with lower odds of a hit to begin with.

But, you've named names, so now we're committed to those.

Icon tho seriously when are you gonna stop CCing people who claim your PR

In this setup it was the right move.

[Not Known 15]

I think 5 is too large of a pool

if you make it 4 i'd put datisi/maki/SS/ + either NK (if we don't exectue him - and with Tea found he's probably first to go anyway) or maybe someone like Moment/notscience in it if we execute NK

It has to be either 5 or 3 - 4 is splitting the difference to an unhappy middle. If we inspect 5 and find tea, we execute one tomorrow and inspect two of that group in case we choose wrong. If it's three with tea, we execute one and inspect one of the remaining two. If we did four, we'd have to inspect two on day 2 anyway, and leave one player as the remainder - basically the same as five but with lower odds of a hit to begin with.

But, you've named names, so now we're committed to those.

Icon tho seriously when are you gonna stop CCing people who claim your PR

In this setup it was the right move.

Yes, it was(although it would have been a better move by Iconeum to instantly claim PA and decide all lynches before that happened).

Iconeum, I never said I played well here. But that doesn`t allow you to play suboptimally if you know better. You should, outside of naming people to be lynched/investigated, make as little posts as possible within the rules, with the minimum allowed information to be given to scum with your posts.

[Something_Smart]

if you make it 4 i'd put datisi/maki/SS/ + either NK (if we don't exectue him - and with Tea found he's probably first to go anyway) or maybe someone like Moment/notscience in it if we execute NK

You should make no comment on whether this was an honest suggestion or a WIFOM attempt, and you should unilaterally pick who will be investigated. It can be arbitrary; it's actually even better if it's random (you can exclude people you townread if you so desire, just do not name the people being excluded). It should be 3-4 people, though this is up for debate and you should decide the number before you choose. It should obviously not include the daughter. Other than that, everything you say, including this, gives away information about who the daughter might be.

I'm sorry; I know it's hard to not be able to discuss your reads, but you have to do it. Ask FG for a confessional PT if you want to talk about reads.

[maxwell]

Agreed 100%. Iconeum names the inspection pool, we set it up, and then execute NK15

[Not Known 15]

You should make no comment on whether this was an honest suggestion or a WIFOM attempt, and you should unilaterally pick who will be investigated. It can be arbitrary; it's actually even better if it's random (you can exclude people you townread if you so desire, just do not name the people being excluded). It should be 3-4 people, though this is up for debate and you should decide the number before you choose. It should obviously not include the daughter. Other than that, everything you say, including this, gives away information about who the daughter might be.

I'm sorry; I know it's hard to not be able to discuss your reads, but you have to do it. Ask FG for a confessional PT if you want to talk about reads.

[Not Known 15]

(except that I am not sorry about you being outed(as opposed to having claimed on an incorrect assumption, sorry for that), you are PA, you have to play that way, deal with it, it`s your duty).

[notscience]

Friendly reminder to deal with caught scum today instead of leaving them open as question marks down the road!

[notscience]

I’m fine with the pool given I only have a read on moment of the bunch so it’s kinda just a huge pile of ????

I’d rather have the worm in there though.

[Iconeum]

But, you've named names, so now we're committed to those.

not really

i'm going to be naming a lot of names

[Iconeum]

i would like to see people making their scummiest looking brackets of 3 that they wanna see investigated

[Iconeum]

i'll post my final 3 tomorrow and we simply execute NK

right?

[maxwell]

i'll post my final 3 tomorrow and we simply execute NK

right?

Yeah, that's fine

[Radical Rat]

Why not by himself? If he's Town and Scum winds up on the same ship, then we just end up Misclowning him anyway. If he's Scum, then having any number of other people on that ship doesn't give us any more information than if he were alone.

I would still like an answer to this please.