Ask 72. His reasons seem to be the same as LL's. The exception being that 72 never gave an opinion on the ART. How does that rub you?In post 672, Porkens wrote:Riddle me this: why did 76 vote for bloop?
This is a good post.In post 196, JamSV wrote:72's case on Blopp: Agreeing with Lucky. 26In post 188, 72offsuit wrote:In post 184, TheThirteenthJT wrote:Valid point but obviously he had multiple leans. Do you feel they were forced 72? Like he felt pressured to answer so he did?In post 140, 72offsuit wrote:It's page 3. What are you expecting?In post 68, TheThirteenthJT wrote:Is he your only scumlean or do you have more?In post 67, Raya36 wrote:UNVOTE:
I don't want a quick hammer. L-2 is plenty for pressure. Scumlean on Lucky for not removing his vote. Could be hoping for that quickhammer
Yes. Names 2 and a half scumleans in 69 feels like a blurted out response.
By 181 Raya has 4 townleans/reads, which feels like way too many from a town PoV at this stage of the game.
The Homura townread is the sort of read I make as scum on my scumbuddy. "Similar thoughts to myself" --> its the sort of statement, which you cant really test the veracity of.
Dumps me in as a null, still doesnt explain how my actions further scum agenda, or why someone of a scum mindset makes aforementioned plays.
If genuinely believes that my RQS is active lurking filler, then why am I not a scumread?
If I was to take a stab at the game solve, I would say Raya + Homura purely off that reads list.
Now take a look at what I made bold in his quote. Huh. Spooky coincidence.
And this is a really, really poor post.In post 351, JamSV wrote:Yes, don't let Blair know but I think you were the best player in Newbie 2013.
I'm here for better or worse. Yes, let's play a little game.In post 679, Porkens wrote:Clark, you up for a little game?
Lol no that dude is going to ride my wagon right off the cliff I’m not even going to try to convince himIn post 680, ClarkBar wrote:Trying to add a little butter to the Jam eh? If you compliment his "tone" then he's sure to unvote you.
Lack of scumhunting? Lol...In post 576, ClarkBar wrote:How your slot flips will inform a lot of my thinking. I suspect 72 due to his position on LL's dick, where his votes have gone and why, and how he reacted to the claim by LL. Plus his lack of scum hunting. So why am I not voting for 72? Because I'm much less sure about him than you, and if you flip town then I would be forced to really re-evaluate my read on him.In post 573, Porkens wrote:Let’s go at this in another way. What are your current thoughts on the counterwagons?
I have a null read on Raya. I iso'd her and stuff, so you can go check that out at your leisure. In short I didn't like her push on LL at first, but she explained her reasoning well enough. LL said my change of heart with Raya occurred "magically" but I gave post links. If you flip scum then she would essentially be a town lock for me. If you flip town than I would look at that early push I didn't like again and follow up more with her.
“Like”. What even is this post?In post 244, 72offsuit wrote:Ye, pretty much this ^In post 242, TheThirteenthJT wrote:I went back to analyze the Blopp flake and it's so bizarre. I can see newbie players leaving for a bit and returning to see 4 votes on then as a bit overwhelming but I felt the pressure up to the point they removed their avatar was not that high. I've seen (and done so myself) people drilled early game as newbies which would cause enough frustration for a rage quit. This early wagon was rather tame. But at the same time why return at all to remove your avatar? Clearly no intention of returning and thus rage quit possibility over just not returning/forgetting about the site.
So here's the final scenario I have in my head. Blopp comes back because they remember they are in a mafia game, see 4 votes on them, says screw this, removes avatar and leaves forever.
Show me where you considered yourself scumhunting?In post 686, 72offsuit wrote:Lack of scumhunting? Lol...In post 576, ClarkBar wrote:How your slot flips will inform a lot of my thinking. I suspect 72 due to his position on LL's dick, where his votes have gone and why, and how he reacted to the claim by LL. Plus his lack of scum hunting. So why am I not voting for 72? Because I'm much less sure about him than you, and if you flip town then I would be forced to really re-evaluate my read on him.In post 573, Porkens wrote:Let’s go at this in another way. What are your current thoughts on the counterwagons?
I have a null read on Raya. I iso'd her and stuff, so you can go check that out at your leisure. In short I didn't like her push on LL at first, but she explained her reasoning well enough. LL said my change of heart with Raya occurred "magically" but I gave post links. If you flip scum then she would essentially be a town lock for me. If you flip town than I would look at that early push I didn't like again and follow up more with her.
I do like almost all of these reads. The Quick read needs more work, as does mine.In post 683, Porkens wrote:I’ll take that as a yes. Tell me what you think of this readslist:
Looker replaced Homura: Lurky as fuck. How can I read this?
Battle Mage replaced Blopp: bloop was zero entity, BM is just filling space
72offsuit: scummy as shit, should be lynched today
JamSV replaced individual: arrogant annoying but town
TheThirteenthJT: ehhhh town I guess talks a lot isn’t obviously bad
ClarkBar: town ish I guess
LicketyQuickety (SE) replaced EchoVision: durrrr not too much scumtelling but I dunno
Raya36 (SE) : kinda sheepy? Leaaaaaaanscum
Porkens (SE) replaced LuckyLuciano: total town hero
This theory if porkens is eliminated and flips town, that means im scum, is garbage.In post 595, TheThirteenthJT wrote:In post 591, Porkens wrote:Thirteenth, what would my hanging tell us about the game?
I've been looking at vote counts throughout the game. Jamsv has been the most firm on the LL wagon. Hasn't waivered from their stance. Raya agrees with LL early game on Blopp and then distanced by voting LL as the wagon started turning. Lickety was also pushing hard on LL and dropped a bit after the pr claim. Even with LL backtracking and dropping they have not returned to that wagon. Waiting on them now to further analyze. Meanwhile counterwagon was 72 who agreed with LL. An LL flip would be the strongest indicator of 72 this game. I am almost certain if LL is town than 72 is scum here. Does not work vice versa. Clark on your wagon just now felt extremely oppurtunistic, again more detail coming.
There's so much to learn from your flip.
And I don't want to give 100% away the tell (you can however meta me to find it.) But it's related to one of my (borrowed) rqs question and Clark gave a result with 100% scum rate. Obviously tools like that are just tools so Ive been trying to watch their game independently from it. If they flip scum that tool will be great for future games and if not Clark becomes the exception.
Talking to me?In post 693, Porkens wrote:You are townreading me for scumreading someone who townreads him? Am I following that correctly?
You think those were scummy? Why?In post 692, ClarkBar wrote:I can't follow the BM vote. I hated the entrance to the game. I hated the music video posts. I hated using meta as a push against LL and 72 (I know those are my top cum reads) but whatever. I guess it's not one thing. But I'm not moving off you.
Porkens.In post 606, Porkens wrote:It just boggles my mind that LL ended up claiming based on a scumread of three posts.
If you are town, town are not particularly impressed either.In post 608, Battle Mage wrote:My guess is scum are not particularly enamoured with me coming into this slotIn post 369, TheThirteenthJT wrote:And thus why I didn't join the Blopp wagon. I was giving the benefit of the doubt but at the same time understanding why someone would push it. I felt I had bigger fish to fry over the Blopp and Luciano case and had said I wouldn't really weigh in and focus elsewhere until a replacement came in.In post 358, Raya36 wrote:Ok but this same reaction can come from town too.. It's not scum indicative.. It's NAIIn post 242, TheThirteenthJT wrote:I went back to analyze the Blopp flake and it's so bizarre. I can see newbie players leaving for a bit and returning to see 4 votes on then as a bit overwhelming but I felt the pressure up to the point they removed their avatar was not that high. I've seen (and done so myself) people drilled early game as newbies which would cause enough frustration for a rage quit. This early wagon was rather tame. But at the same time why return at all to remove your avatar? Clearly no intention of returning and thus rage quit possibility over just not returning/forgetting about the site.
So here's the final scenario I have in my head. Blopp comes back because they remember they are in a mafia game, see 4 votes on them, says screw this, removes avatar and leaves forever.
Similarly now that BM has replaced in I want to see were Luciano goes from there.
an honest question huh?In post 378, LicketyQuickety wrote:In post 77, LuckyLuciano wrote:Players who push the game forward and generate AI content don't die D1.Spoiler: Nothing like a good old fashioned meme for this occasion
Is my point getting across? Is LL Town because of their claim? Honest question.
In post 280, LicketyQuickety wrote:Why should I believe you wouldn't say this as Scum?In post 278, LuckyLuciano wrote:I have a TPR. Let's move on.
In post 278, LuckyLuciano wrote:If I'm not mistaking, that's 4 votes. I have a TPR. Let's move on.
Oh that ROLEFISHING thoIn post 290, LicketyQuickety wrote:Like, if you are mason with 72, just say so. If you are that would make sense. But it's not really my fault I caught 72 lying about your meta and thought he was Scum for it.
Anyways, if you ARE masons with 72, which I would say is about 50/50 at this point, then I would look at Raya36 for the blatant buddy attempt as well as Thirteen for them affirming LL's meta and budying me. I DON'T think Blopp flaking is actually AI.
