Newbie 2016: Snapdragons (Game Over)

[TheThirteenthJT]

I was wrong about Porkens and Jam robbed me of the hammer. What a brutal fucking day.

You were wrong about Porkens?

[Battle Mage]

I'd have to say, this could be the worst performance by successive players in the same slot I've ever seen. Fakeclaim, retracted, re-fakeclaim, re-retracted. all on Day 1. You may as well just have claimed scum.

[ClarkBar]

Revenge for our last game.

It's not my fault you were scummy! You placed 3 E-1 votes on players you hadn't mentioned and gave no reasons or had any questions to go along with them. Between you and Umlaut who had the benefit of replacing in and hiding behind Menalque's antics. chose you and I wish I hadn't.

[Raya36]

If Porkens really does flip town then I have no idea what was with all the claims from that slot.

I suspect he's scum though and doing some last minute distancing and setup work

Why would he be lying at this point?

Still distancing, still setting up miskills, having fun with it

[Battle Mage]

Jamsv has been so levelheaded this game. That flipflop is weird lol.

I just felt like spicing things up a bit

to be honest

.

oh no....

[JamSV]

Revenge for our last game.

It's not my fault you were scummy! You placed 3 E-1 votes on players you hadn't mentioned and gave no reasons or had any questions to go along with them. Between you and Umlaut who had the benefit of replacing in and hiding behind Menalque's antics. chose you and I wish I hadn't.

1 E-1 vote. I don't know why you didn't pull me up on it this game if you thought what I did was scummy. If Porkens flips green, you're going soon.

[Porkens]

OH BEFORE I GO A COUPLE NOTES FROM YOUR SE:

1. don’t talk about replacements. It’s literally against the rules.
2. Don’t use sexual terms like “get off his dick” in negative ways. It’s homophobic and shaming. And it creates a hostile environment, to boot.
3. Stop being such assholes to each other. It’s a game, it’s supposed to be fun for everyone. Tilting people by making them feel bad and putting them down is not going to help you in the long run.
4. Wifom is real.
5. Meta is real.
6. Play to the game you are in, but always keep the NEXT game in mind too.
7. Think about how your words and actions will effect the gamestate days down the line.
8. Never self hammer as town.
9. Take care of yourself.
10. Black Lives Matter

11. Make sure you hang 13 tomorrow, then BM.

P. Edit the only thing I did today was claim VT. I never hinted that I was a PR, in fact I pointedly said I would not comment on the claim other than it was bad. You are misrepresenting me.

[Battle Mage]

VOTE: Porkens
Stole it

was this really just about pulling on Clark's chain?

Revenge for our last game.

you had Pork going too

(and everybody else)

[Porkens]

I was wrong about Porkens and Jam robbed me of the hammer. What a brutal fucking day.

You were wrong about Porkens?

[Battle Mage]

OH BEFORE I GO A COUPLE NOTES FROM YOUR SE:

2. Don’t use sexual terms like “get off his dick” in negative ways. It’s homophobic and shaming. And it creates a hostile environment, to boot.
3. Stop being such assholes to each other.
10. Black Lives Matter
11. Make sure you

hang

13 tomorrow, then BM.

P. Edit the only thing I did today was claim VT. I never hinted that I was a PR, in fact I pointedly said I would not comment on the claim other than it was bad. You are misrepresenting me.

You retracted his retraction i.e. that you were in fact a PR all along. Then apparently forgot you'd done it, and claimed vanilla.

[Porkens]

I didn’t retract his retraction.

[Porkens]

Quote it or admit you are a lying liar

[LicketyQuickety]

Why would LL do that

Ah, that was probably the part that LL was most truthful.

[Nahdia]

Vote Count 1.12

Porkens (5):

Raya36, Looker, Battle Mage, TheThirteenthJT, JamSV

Battle Mage (2):

LicketyQuickety, Porkens

Raya36 (1):

72offsuit

Not Voting (1):

ClarkBar

Deadline is in

(expired on 2020-07-11 13:52:07)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With nine players alive, it takes

five

to reach majority.

Mod Note:

Please let me know if there are any errors in my vote count, thanks.

[Nahdia]

Porkens has been eliminated. They were a

Vanilla Townie

.

Night 1 begins now. Please submit your night actions via PM or PT (if applicable) before the next day starts.

Day 2 will begin in (expired on 2020-07-11 18:47:53).

[Nahdia]

LicketyQuickety was killed during Night 1. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

[Nahdia]

Vote Count 2.00

Not Voting (7):

Looker, Battle Mage, 72offsuit, JamSV, TheThirteenthJT, ClarkBar, Raya36

Deadline is in

(expired on 2020-07-18 19:24:03)

, at which point we will default to no elimination.

With seven players alive, it takes

four

to reach majority.

Mod Note:

Apologies for the delayed daystart!

[ClarkBar]

Well, I guess bad town-play is sometimes just bad town-play. Need to reread I think.

[Battle Mage]

jesus christ. i'm alive and all my suspects are dead

and town

.

initial thoughts: Jam-scum wouldn't have made that weird play yesterday around the Porkens wagon. Too conspicuous and odd for no reason.
Raya's posts at end of day had conviction and didn't leave herself open to a Porkens town-flip. Felt legit.
Must be at least 1 scum on the Porkens wagon because there was no reason not to be, therefore must be TTJT and/or Looker.
need to revisit 72offsuit as i think i basically locktowned him based on pork being scum.

[ClarkBar]

jesus christ. i'm alive and all my suspects are dead

and town

.

I'm sure I'm getting NKed tonight when you flip scum anyway, but they'll lynch your obvscum buddy Quick tomorrow thanks to me!

This tough for me, and somewhat WIFOMEY (apologies for using an acronym as a verb) but would scum NK their biggest scum-read? Anybody is free to weigh in here.

[ClarkBar]

initial thoughts: Jam-scum wouldn't have made that weird play yesterday around the Porkens wagon.

I think I agree. Still, a dick move.

Raya's posts at end of day had conviction and didn't leave herself open to a Porkens town-flip. Felt legit.

Please explore this further. Conviction at that point is, to me, not AI.

Must be at least 1 scum on the Porkens wagon because there was no reason not to be, therefore must be TTJT and/or Looker.

I think some people had blinders on yesterday due to LL's play. But Looker was so actively scumhunting...

need to revisit 72offsuit as i think i basically locktowned him based on pork being scum.

And for me 72 being scum was largely contingent on Porkens being scum.

[Battle Mage]

jesus christ. i'm alive and all my suspects are dead

and town

.

I'm sure I'm getting NKed tonight when you flip scum anyway, but they'll lynch your obvscum buddy Quick tomorrow thanks to me!

This tough for me, and somewhat WIFOMEY (apologies for using an acronym as a verb) but would scum NK their biggest scum-read? Anybody is free to weigh in here.

it's WIFOM really, but yeah, as a general rule I probably wouldn't because it basically pins you on 2 mis-elims and discredits your reads.

Having said that, he suspected me too, so 3 probable explanations for the NK:

1. I killed Quick because he suspected me.
2. Someone else killed Quick to make me look bad.
3. Someone killed Quick because they thought he was a PR, or he was an SE (although little evidence of either that I saw).

[ClarkBar]

Thanks for the quick response, BM. Going to ask a couple more questions.

1. Are examining/guessing about NK's a worthwhile pursuit of Town? (not an attack on you for 946 BM, just a general best practices thing.)

2. Is Raya scum? I'm not interested in responses to this one from Raya or BM, though they are welcome. I do want to hear from everybody else on this matter.

[72offsuit]

Lol. Thanks for killing quick. Im happy to join the scum team as a town traitor.

[72offsuit]

Thats one less headache