Newbie 2018: Ferrets [GAME OVER]

WaltertheDunce10 · Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:44 pm

In post 173, midwaybear wrote:That’s 50% true. Why does this matter?

50% ?
I must admit Gl's response was more tilted than I expected considering his play last game.
Sjreaper,
Is there something in Midway's posts that makes you think it is not genuine?

Ydrasse · Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:44 pm

In post 171, midwaybear wrote:Ok ydrasse

it's not personal, i swear!

glad to be a familiar face tho!

clidd · Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:44 pm

In post 167, clidd wrote:I still see SJ as town, along with Mujie now. Both are my two townleans.

In post 168, clidd wrote:
Does that change something in your read, Midway ?

In post 169, midwaybear wrote:
In post 164, clidd wrote:I suppose you haven't forgotten about our game in common, which would make you notice my presence in the game.

Spoiler:
I have not, and I replaced in because of some familiar faces

pedit: how so?

He wouldn't sound confused if he had read one of my review posts.

I was expecting him to interact with me, given the previous basis he already has on my playstyle. I imagine it would be the first thing he would do when he replaced in.

midwaybear · Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:46 pm

In post 145, midwaybear wrote:clidd, so you are townreading SJReaver because you think mafia would be more opportunistic in casting doubt on his claim? But that argument falls apart if he is mafia.

I get the mujie townread.

clidd · Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:48 pm

In fact, I'm surprised that no one noticed anything suggestive about the current VCA.

clidd · Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:49 pm

In post 178, midwaybear wrote:
In post 145, midwaybear wrote:clidd, so you are townreading SJReaver because you think mafia would be more opportunistic in casting doubt on his claim? But that argument falls apart if he is mafia.
I get the mujie townread.

Ok. I'll deal with you later.

midwaybear · Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:51 pm

In post 179, clidd wrote:In fact, I'm surprised that no one noticed anything suggestive about the current VCA.

Enlighten me.

clidd · Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:08 pm

In post 141, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 136, SJReaver wrote:I asked if you’re usually this quiet on day 1. It wasn’t an accusation; I wanted to know more about your playstyle.

What I got was some bizarre knee-jerk defensiveness where you pull up a picture of everyone’s posting levels (who does that?), explain to me that you’re voting with the leading wagon (so what?), and how the game just started yesterday (like that matters).

It’s like asking someone what time it is and having them go on about the superiority of their watch and then say I’m slandering their time-keeping abilities.

All that and you never answered the question.

Anyways, people mostly ignored my vote. You're drawing more attention to yourself right now than I did.
It
WAS
an accusation. You framed it leadingly, by saying "are you always this quiet" you're asserting that I am quiet. This is wrong and obnoxious and yes it did make me tilted because I hate being accused of not playing.

Lots of people pull up everyone's posting levels. I guarantee you I am nowhere near the first person to do that. It's proof that you're being disingenuous about my activity and preserves the post count at that time for the rest of the game, since that is going to change as we keep playing.

It matters that I'm voting the leading wagon because that's presence in the game. Of people using their votes to pressure Mujie and generate info, mine was among the most valuable.

and finally IT DOES MATTER THAT THE GAME STARTED YESTERDAY. I have a life. I have a job. I live with a partner. I
don't
live on this site and I seriously resent it when I feel obligated to be checking the thread every hour cause some 24/7 memeposter is gonna accuse me of being 'quiet' otherwise. I hate that. It sends me. It makes me question why I bother to play at all.

What answer would you want to that question? "Yes, SJReaver, you are right, I am always quiet and have fewer than 30 posts within 24 hours of thread opening"? "No, SJReaver, I always lead in post count and since I haven't yet I am scum in this game, whoops, ya caught me"? Like what?? It was a pointless accusatory question, and I gave it a response worthy of such.

We have to talk.

clidd · Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:13 pm

In post 181, midwaybear wrote:
In post 179, clidd wrote:In fact, I'm surprised that no one noticed anything suggestive about the current VCA.
Enlighten me.

No hunch ?

GuiltyLion · Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:15 pm

In post 148, SJReaver wrote:
In post 141, GuiltyLion wrote: It
WAS
an accusation. You framed it leadingly, by saying "are you always this quiet" you're asserting that I am quiet. This is wrong and obnoxious and yes it did make me tilted because I hate being accused of not playing.

Lots of people pull up everyone's posting levels. I guarantee you I am nowhere near the first person to do that. It's proof that you're being disingenuous about my activity and preserves the post count at that time for the rest of the game, since that is going to change as we keep playing.

It matters that I'm voting the leading wagon because that's presence in the game. Of people using their votes to pressure Mujie and generate info, mine was among the most valuable.

and finally IT DOES MATTER THAT THE GAME STARTED YESTERDAY. I have a life. I have a job. I live with a partner. I
don't
live on this site and I seriously resent it when I feel obligated to be checking the thread every hour cause some 24/7 memeposter is gonna accuse me of being 'quiet' otherwise. I hate that. It sends me. It makes me question why I bother to play at all.

What answer would you want to that question? "Yes, SJReaver, you are right, I am always quiet and have fewer than 30 posts within 24 hours of thread opening"? "No, SJReaver, I always lead in post count and since I haven't yet I am scum in this game, whoops, ya caught me"? Like what?? It was a pointless accusatory question, and I gave it a response worthy of such.
So you're angry because I fail to appreciate the time and sacrifice you put into a game?

I'm angry because you accused me of being quiet, and I asked why you framed my play that way, and then you pretended like you didn't.

You still have not answered why you accused me of being quiet. All of this is a remarkable dodge

GuiltyLion · Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:17 pm

In post 145, midwaybear wrote:I think mujie and GuiltyLion are both town, and that is the extent of my confident reads

this seems dissonant with how most of your catchup commentary was asking mujie questions or suggesting there's things to question about his play

VOTE: midwaybear

GuiltyLion · Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:19 pm

In post 175, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I must admit Gl's response was more tilted than I expected considering his play last game.

nobody accused me of not playing the game last game

GuiltyLion · Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:19 pm

In post 182, clidd wrote:We have to talk.

sup

GuiltyLion · Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:21 pm

In post 153, midwaybear wrote:I do not think your attack on guiltylion is a good one, and if you continue, I will actually scumread you because it’s not in good faith.

this also feels like how scum talk to people they know are town

midwaybear · Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:22 pm

In post 145, midwaybear wrote:Hm I sorta want to townread mujie for 107. He talks about "not wanting to give mafia ideas", and while I believe discussion is pro-town I also believe that he was genuine in believing that and it wasn't just some way to dodge the question. Now, I can sorta see what clidd was saying and I think it's just that mujie approaches the game differently.

midwaybear · Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:25 pm

In post 188, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 153, midwaybear wrote:I do not think your attack on guiltylion is a good one, and if you continue, I will actually scumread you because it’s not in good faith.
this also feels like how scum talk to people they know are town

who is town you or SJ?

GuiltyLion · Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:27 pm

In post 189, midwaybear wrote:
In post 145, midwaybear wrote:Hm I sorta want to townread mujie for 107. He talks about "not wanting to give mafia ideas", and while I believe discussion is pro-town I also believe that he was genuine in believing that and it wasn't just some way to dodge the question. Now, I can sorta see what clidd was saying and I think it's just that mujie approaches the game differently.

Yes I saw this, what's weird to me is that you expended all the effort commenting him on the spoiler and then didn't bother to revise/update that once you decided he was town.

in my 188, I'm claiming SJ is town. It's scummy to me that you're threatening to scumread her instead of just actually scumreading her

midwaybear · Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:29 pm

well it was mostly a catch up, so just saying what I was thinking as the posts went on.
I want to see how SJ continues to interact with you and then I will make a decision. Why is she town?

clidd · Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:31 pm

In post 183, clidd wrote:
In post 181, midwaybear wrote:
In post 179, clidd wrote:In fact, I'm surprised that no one noticed anything suggestive about the current VCA.
Enlighten me.
No hunch ?

3 wagons, two votes on each, voted players are not voting for any other player together.

I think I already gave many tips.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:31 pm

In post 192, midwaybear wrote:I want to see how SJ continues to interact with you and then I will make a decision. Why is she town?

I'm not saying I think she's town, I'm saying you're talking to her as if you

know

she's town. Your decision shouldn't really be pending how she continues to play, that just means you'd be telling scum what to do to get you to townread them. You voted her, you gave a reason you should scumread her, but you don't

actually

scumread her. that feels fake.

clidd · Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:35 pm

In post 187, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 182, clidd wrote:We have to talk.
sup

I have a mental vote on you and some questions.

midwaybear · Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:36 pm

okie then. I will take a look at her argument again? I just couldn't tell whether the push comes from scum or town, but I guess I shouldn't have openly said that to her.
@clidd all town wagons? I still don't really get it.

GuiltyLion · Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:37 pm

In post 195, clidd wrote:
In post 187, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 182, clidd wrote:We have to talk.
sup
I have a mental vote on you and some questions.

If you asked me a question recently, I don't see it? Or are you saying you have some to ask, in which case fire away

clidd · Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:38 pm

In post 196, midwaybear wrote:okie then. I will take a look at her argument again? I just couldn't tell whether the push comes from scum or town, but I guess I shouldn't have openly said that to her.
@clidd all town wagons? I still don't really get it.

No. This is the most unlikely possible scenario.

clidd · Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:40 pm

In post 198, clidd wrote:
In post 196, midwaybear wrote:okie then. I will take a look at her argument again? I just couldn't tell whether the push comes from scum or town, but I guess I shouldn't have openly said that to her.
@clidd all town wagons? I still don't really get it.
No. This is the most
unlikely possible
scenario.

Wait, what ?

Sounded contradictory, but you probably got the point.