Micro 952 - The Coalition: ItGBSMoD [game over!]

[DonCorleone]

do you really feel like scum was working very hard to get Clover wagon to go first rather than Pooky wagon? Like the entire last day was leaning towards me being lynched instead of clover - it was 4-3 until you flipped in the last 5 hours.

I mean you and wug seemed pretty committed to it yeah

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

obviously I'm committed to it since I know I'm town.

[Dumb and Dumber]

Right but again, why do that? What’s the benefit to scum?

I have no idea. The game doesn't make sense yet.

I do know that Pooky feels significantly townier than Klick does EOD yesterday.
You're probably not aligned with Klick, nor is Wug.
Wug looks like a viable Pooky partner, and is also independantly scummy. Deimos is probably my stronget townread

[DonCorleone]

scum want 2 townies to fight and have the viable wagons on day 1 be both townie wagons because it sets up 2 mis-executes in a row.

In which case scum would be flying relatively UTR and trying to encourage conflict between you and clover, not hard pushing for one over the other

[Dumb and Dumber]

and idk why they would both choose to focus on that so hard when there was a juicy clover wagon there for the taking that either could easily have switched to by the end claiming deadline pressure and the need for a lynch

Also I don't think that Klick could have switched to Clover (even with the deadline looming) given his trajectory on him until that point

[Dumb and Dumber]

Therefore, pooky probably scum and clover the wagon that scum were very invested in keeping alive to save him

OK
So who exactly were the people that were pushing really hard for clover at that point?

[DonCorleone]

DnD you just feel kinda scummy. Like either way you feel scummy here and that makes me feel less confident on reading you either way bc I think I might start to confbias

But like if pooky!town you look TMIy and like you’re using today to set up for a fight with klick tomorrow (by pre-empting him in the 1v1)

And if pooky!scum then idk why you’re not seeing what’s obvious to most everyone else and are trying so hard to fuck up the day

I mean it’s probably less of an issue in the second case because we still have 1 mislynch left but overall it’s just making your slot harder to read

[DonCorleone]

Therefore, pooky probably scum and clover the wagon that scum were very invested in keeping alive to save him

OK
So who exactly were the people that were pushing really hard for clover at that point?

POOKY and WUG

Are you reading or what?

[DonCorleone]

and idk why they would both choose to focus on that so hard when there was a juicy clover wagon there for the taking that either could easily have switched to by the end claiming deadline pressure and the need for a lynch

Also I don't think that Klick could have switched to Clover (even with the deadline looming) given his trajectory on him until that point

Sure he could have, deadline justifies all

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if Klick is scum he doesn't vote Clover because a NL is better than Clover flipping town at that point

[Dumb and Dumber]

OK, why are we scummy?

And picking a massive fight over whether pooky is town here is silly because if we're scum we'd inevitably need to have a 1v1 with klick tomorrow anyways. Like it's inevitable. We could just take the easy pooky mislynch, support it, and tomorrow be like 'oh whoops shouldn't have listened to you guys everyone vote:klick'

There's like no reason to pick a fight here anyways.

And I'm not trying to fuck up the day, I think that you lot are wrong. Sorry.

[Dumb and Dumber]

POOKY and WUG

Are you reading or what?

I'm trying, I got up to page 73 when you came back to the thread and the switch off of Pooky to Clover hasn't happened yet.

Like give me a few minutes, sheesh

You think Wug partnered with Pooky tries to get Klick lynched there?

[Dumb and Dumber]

Sure he could have, deadline justifies all

He couldn't have. He didn't set himself up for it

[DonCorleone]

Like if it’s not lylo and the day is one minute away from ending in no lynch you should self so town has that info on you

I once stalled out a game as scum bc my partner was fakeclaiming against the real PR and the wagons were tied with me deciding

And the TPR said “I will self if we get too close to deadline so you know that <my partner> is scum”

And I then hammered them under the weak justification that “ehh I didn’t know what to do and I started town reading <my partner> for how they approached this and I had to hammer(!)” and then went on to win the game

So klick totally could have hammered there as well as aldus, is my point, and no-one would have batted much if an eyelid. It makes more sense they wouldn’t compromise because they were genuinely that committed on their pooky!scumreads

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

POOKY and WUG

Are you reading or what?

I don't think you can really say Wug or Sleeper pushed very hard for Clover to be lynched instead of me.

If anyone did pushing besides me, it was you.

[Dumb and Dumber]

(Klick, aldus) doesn’t feel insane right now

Like I"m up to here and literally saying the same thing as you given the gamestate as I know it

[DonCorleone]

And picking a massive fight over whether pooky is town here is silly because if we're scum we'd inevitably need to have a 1v1 with klick tomorrow anyways. Like it's inevitable. We could just take the easy pooky mislynch, support it, and tomorrow be like 'oh whoops shouldn't have listened to you guys everyone vote:klick'

Yes, it’s obviously inevitable which means why is klick not bothering to set up for that fight at all? Whereas if you /know/ pooky is town then you pocketing him (or trying to) by defending him and already starting work on a klick!scum narrative makes sense to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like if it’s not lylo and the day is one minute away from ending in no lynch you should self so town has that info on you

I once stalled out a game as scum bc my partner was fakeclaiming against the real PR and the wagons were tied with me deciding

And the TPR said “I will self if we get too close to deadline so you know that <my partner> is scum”

And I then hammered them under the weak justification that “ehh I didn’t know what to do and I started town reading <my partner> for how they approached this and I had to hammer(!)” and then went on to win the game

So klick totally could have hammered there as well as aldus, is my point, and no-one would have batted much if an eyelid. It makes more sense they wouldn’t compromise because they were genuinely that committed on their pooky!scumreads

If Klick or Aldus are scum why would they hammer Clover - they're much better off with a NL on D1 than getting closer to a resolution on Clover-Pooky

[Dumb and Dumber]

Please vote Pooky DC. I will absolutely BoP it if it's wrong.

Klick would you still do this?

[DonCorleone]

If anyone did pushing besides me, it was you.

Wug made an effort to get me onboard with clover instead of going to klick or anything and was generally supporting you and advocating in your favour

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes, it’s obviously inevitable which means why is klick not bothering to set up for that fight at all? Whereas if you /know/ pooky is town then you pocketing him (or trying to) by defending him and already starting work on a klick!scum narrative makes sense to me

Klick doesn't want to fight me because he wants to rush today to a finish. The more fighting he does today the worse he looks tomorrow after I flip town.

[DonCorleone]

Please vote Pooky DC. I will absolutely BoP it if it's wrong.

Klick would you still do this?

Do you not see how you posting stuff like this looks scummy to me?

[DonCorleone]

If Klick or Aldus are scum why would they hammer Clover - they're much better off with a NL on D1 than getting closer to a resolution on Clover-Pooky

That doesn’t change the fact that their whole decision to just hard push you together is weird and doesn’t make sense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If anyone did pushing besides me, it was you.

Wug made an effort to get me onboard with clover instead of going to klick or anything and was generally supporting you and advocating in your favour

I don't think Wug tried very hard - your effort was much more responsible for the wagon flip.

Besides Wug doesn't even make sense as my partner - I was planning on getting her lynched initially with Koba back when the Coalition first failed.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If Klick or Aldus are scum why would they hammer Clover - they're much better off with a NL on D1 than getting closer to a resolution on Clover-Pooky

That doesn’t change the fact that their whole decision to just hard push you together is weird and doesn’t make sense

Is the goal of the scum not to lynch townies?