Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[Isis]

Dunnstral what's your favorite pokemon

[Hoopla]

I'm proud of me, that's probably a scum fakeclaim, but mechanically correct to leave alive here.

sadly, i am being sincere.

If you're town I'm sorry I pushed a fun role to L-1

all good old friend.

[Dunnstral]

Must be a big top shelf to explain your play this game. Maybe lay off the drink?

I'm not really a pokemon guy, I lost track when they went past like 500. That green small time travel character is pretty neat

[Dunnstral]

Hoopla's claim makes me suspect them more, not less

[Dunnstral]

And you know he's gonna claim roleblocked on day 3

[Isis]

Celebi?

I have not drunk posted in this mafia game aside from the past 10-15 minutes

[geraintm]

Bob is my top scumread at the time of writing. I see I will be joining great company such as the likes of emperors on this wagon.

VOTE: Bob

You hve yet to come up with a reason as to explain your scum read on me.

that is unfair, their reasoning may be short (and you disagree with it) but to say there is no reason is wrong

[Dunnstral]

Yeah, Celebi

I have not drunk posted in this mafia game aside from the past 10-15 minutes

I'm just messing with you

[Isis]

Hoopla what is your opinion of Dunnstral the snowglobe??

[Dunnstral]

I'd prefer if I weren't bump-offed

[Isis]

It's weird to deal with Dunnstral calling me scummy all this game because I keep going "am I playing like I did last time I was scum????" and last time I played scum I did this big fancy self imposed post restriction and it was its own things then I get lost reminiscing but I uh definitely dont get anywhere

[Hoopla]

Hoopla what is your opinion of Dunnstral the snowglobe??

on the brink of my townreads.

probably wouldn't want to execute there any more.

[geraintm]

People keep saying there have been all town wagons this game when there really haven’t lol

this ^^

VOTE: replacement

Jump in. The water's not exactly warm, but you get used to it.

yeah...I am going to have to ignore your votes for the rest of the day. you are here, there and everywhere.

This is just untrue. Your crown must be made of lead. Replacement for Sujimichi was just the second real vote of the day for me -- either you're not paying attention or you're blowing bubbles. And I don't think you're one not to pay attention.

not just votes. you are spewing reads on everyone (or were when I wrote the post).

[Isis]

What do you like about Dunnudun?

[Dunnstral]

"am I playing like I did last time I was scum????"

No, but I always townread you when you're scum

[Dunnstral]

Which means you're probably town, because your posts feel like you've been drunk all game compared to what I'm used to

[geraintm]

@galron, your poat about the wagon feels like info, not analysis - who's jump on that wagon feels scummy/badly positioned?

it also missed my post on hoopla which felt like a thing at the time, at least to me

[Hoopla]

What do you like about Dunnudun?

i don't know. an intuitive town energy?

i feel i've lost complete confidence in my ability to play this game.

i wouldn't rely on my opinions until i figure out how to restore some of my verve. will probably just be sheeping my solid town reads for the rest of this day phase.

[geraintm]

this was an influential reason in why i powered and sat on the geraintm wagon as much as i did. he was a classic candidate of scum finding a vote acceptable enough to be unchallenged, then sitting on it without much reevaluation. it takes effort to be constantly reevaluating the gamestate as scum and to find convincing reasons for your opinions to change. this is why we see scum sit on hivemind-approved votes longer than town, as switching votes incurs the risk of receiving additional attention/critique of your play.

players like klick and notscience seem vote-hoppy-happy anyhow, so i don't extend the tell to capable, aware players like them, but i suspect this tell is meaningful for a player like geraintm and why i still suspect him.

Geraintm explicitly stated rather early on that he didn't like it when people hopped around with their votes. I get this as a tell that works generally, but when applied specifically to geraintm it doesn't hold much water.

PEdit: I'd be pretty fine with that lmao

I am not sitting on a hivemind approved vote though, im sitting on my random vote. does that change your thinking hoopla??

[Dunnstral]

^what

[geraintm]

this was an influential reason in why i powered and sat on the geraintm wagon as much as i did. he was a classic candidate of scum finding a vote acceptable enough to be unchallenged, then sitting on it without much reevaluation. it takes effort to be constantly reevaluating the gamestate as scum and to find convincing reasons for your opinions to change. this is why we see scum sit on hivemind-approved votes longer than town, as switching votes incurs the risk of receiving additional attention/critique of your play.

players like klick and notscience seem vote-hoppy-happy anyhow, so i don't extend the tell to capable, aware players like them, but i suspect this tell is meaningful for a player like geraintm and why i still suspect him.

Geraintm explicitly stated rather early on that he didn't like it when people hopped around with their votes. I get this as a tell that works generally, but when applied specifically to geraintm it doesn't hold much water.

PEdit: I'd be pretty fine with that lmao

and the vote hopping, it is when people quickly jum about, using others people's logic to justify their moves, that is what I find bad. just looks like they are trying to get onto any half decent wagon and then later on can blame others if it goes wrong.
if someone is coming up with good reasons for their votes, I mind that much less

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 1's Thirty-Sixth Votecount

Hoopla (5): Klick, Bellaphant, UnaBombaH, notscience, Galron
geraintm (2): popopopopopopo, bob3141
Klick (2): geraintm , Hoopla
bob3141 (2): Emperor flippyNips, Replacement for Sujimichi
popopopopopopo (1): Dunnstral
notscience (0):
Replacement for Sujimichi (0):
Dunnstral (0):
Bellaphant (0):
Emperor flippyNips (0):
Galron (0):
UnaBombaH (0):
Isis (0):

Not Voting (1): Isis

With 13 voters, 7 votes are required to execute.

Day 1 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-20 00:15:00).

[geraintm]

bob3141

notscience

geraintm

UnaBombaH
Replacement for Sujimichi

Klick

Bellaphant

Emperor flippyNips
Galron

Hoopla

popopopopopopo

Isis

Dunnstral

Green = friends
Black = neutral
Red = randomly passive-agressive

it is rarely random.
but these posts I think are helpful moving forward, will be useful day 2

[Dunnstral]

Might want to double check the key

[Dunnstral]

Wait... how is that useful for day 2? You know what that is