Smuggler's Port [Game Over]

[Something_Smart]

So should S_S although I know that will fall upon dead ears

Actually, no. I've been known to vote early in the day if someone specifically requests it for the purposes of sorting, and you echoing Titus's request certainly makes it legitimate enough.

VOTE: NK15

[GuiltyLion]

okay I just read pages 64-65 and I'm seeing Notsci/Norway scumteam now lmao

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.2

notscience [5] - Menalque, username, Titus, Moment, Datisi
Moment [3] - maxwell, Alisae, Not Known 15
Datisi [2] - NorwegianboyEE, notscience
Not Known 15 [1] - Something_Smart

Not Voting [5]

- Hel, Iconeum, Radical Rat, Umlaut, GuiltyLion

With 16 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-07-19 16:35:31)

I am shipping...

Linen

[15] - Titus, Alisae, username, Moment, GuiltyLion, Something_Smart, Datisi, Not Known 15, maxwell, Menalque, Hel, Iconeum, Radical Rat, notscience, Umlaut,

Copper

[0] -

Wheat

[1] - NorwegianboyEE

Let's Inspect...

Linen

[0] -

Copper

[1] - maxwell

Wheat

[1] - NorwegianboyEE

[GuiltyLion]

I would like a {Norway/Smart} pool for investigation tonight

maybe Umlaut

but will defer to Ico

I'm back to thinking NS is scum, his latest posts today reek of how I play caught/suspected scum, act all blasé about my execution and shame town while not actually doing anything to push somebody else too hard

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Notscience

VOTE TO INSPECT: Wheat

[GuiltyLion]

I'm still not seeing NotScience or Moment as scummy, and Username is most likely tunneling town. Username seem to be personally offended about what NotScience did earlier, but that doesn't mean NotScience is scum. Basically Username has a problem with discerning the difference between scummy play and regular town play he himself doesn't like.

this in particular feels like the most openwolf post in the history of openwolf posts

[kuribo]

So should S_S although I know that will fall upon dead ears

Actually, no. I've been known to vote early in the day if someone specifically requests it for the purposes of sorting, and you echoing Titus's request certainly makes it legitimate enough.

VOTE: NK15

are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum


Come on man

[username]

So should S_S although I know that will fall upon dead ears

Actually, no. I've been known to vote early in the day if someone specifically requests it for the purposes of sorting, and you echoing Titus's request certainly makes it legitimate enough.

VOTE: NK15

are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum


Come on man

[username]

From my POV it’s quite telling how easily NS got wagoned. Me being the only one to defend NS shows that scum are content with the lynch today. So either NS is town or scum are hard bussing him. Now tell me which you guys think is most likely.

If you call this an easy wagon boy I'd hate to see what you think is a tough one

[Something_Smart]

are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum

I am voting inside of a group that has at least three confirmed scum.

[username]

So should S_S although I know that will fall upon dead ears

Actually, no. I've been known to vote early in the day if someone specifically requests it for the purposes of sorting, and you echoing Titus's request certainly makes it legitimate enough.

VOTE: NK15

are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum


Come on man

I just wanna reiterate that I find it EXTREMELY scummy in this setup to step back and say "well I know there's at least one scum in that group but I don't want to take a stance on any of them"

[username]

are you seriously voting outside of a group that has at least one confirmed scum

I am voting inside of a group that has at least three confirmed scum.

You're literally voting a player that isn't within that group of three, come off it

[Something_Smart]

More to the point, I'm voting to oblige Titus and Menalque, who would like to see votes because they think they can draw analysis from it, and not because I expect NK to be executed or think pushing to execute NK would be healthy for the gamestate.

[Something_Smart]

I just wanna reiterate that I find it EXTREMELY scummy in this setup to step back and say "well I know there's at least one scum in that group but I don't want to take a stance on any of them"

I read Moment as the opposite alignment from NK. Is that not a stance?

[username]

But if you're only voting a useless vote to create VCA data, you're gaming the data and making it useless


I can't honestly think of a scummier response than that.

Datsiki
Moment
Notscience

One of them is confirmed scum

Pick one.

[username]

I just wanna reiterate that I find it EXTREMELY scummy in this setup to step back and say "well I know there's at least one scum in that group but I don't want to take a stance on any of them"

I read Moment as the opposite alignment from NK. Is that not a stance?

It's really really not because NK15 hasn't flipped


Get off the fence and grow a pair.

[Something_Smart]

I appreciate the implication that I can stand to be on the fence because I don't have certain sensitive parts that would normally cause that to be painful.

[Something_Smart]

If I were to force a stance it would be, well, forced.

I think it's pretty evident that I'm most open to killing notscience out of the three, given that I'm sheeping Menalque on Datisi and I want to sort Moment by flipping NK first. But there doesn't seem to be a need to rush that, especially since notscience is the leading wagon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[Hel]

Something_Smart is one of my favourite players on this site.

[Hel]

Norwee's openwolfing has actually made me less confident on notscience + Norwee. Like, isn't this a game losing play for scum!him? Given notscience is leading wagon and it's doubtful he can change so many people's minds. Also, he went for Datisi over Moment who actually had some initial voters. He might be town if notscience is scum lol. If notscience is town, he can still be scum because he's acting scummy and might just be doing this because he knows scum!Datisi/Moment aren't getting lynched today.

Inspecting too many people is actually a bad idea. Let's shrink the investigative pool to [Umlaut, GuiltyLion]. GuiltyLion doesn't have nearly enough posts.

[maxwell]

Norwee's openwolfing has actually made me less confident on notscience + Norwee. Like, isn't this a game losing play for scum!him? Given notscience is leading wagon and it's doubtful he can change so many people's minds. Also, he went for Datisi over Moment who actually had some initial voters. He might be town if notscience is scum lol. If notscience is town, he can still be scum because he's acting scummy and might just be doing this because he knows scum!Datisi/Moment aren't getting lynched today.

Whoever in that group of 3 is scum is caught and as good as dead, if not today then tomorrow or day 4. Volunteering himself for a check here would be a losing play, correct.

I would like a {Norway/Smart} pool for investigation tonight

maybe Umlaut

but will defer to Ico

I'm back to thinking NS is scum, his latest posts today reek of how I play caught/suspected scum, act all blasé about my execution and shame town while not actually doing anything to push somebody else too hard

I think we do a 3 person pool anyway if we're going that route and I absolutely want NK15 on it. I don't think norwegian is a hit in spite of everything, but he's volunteered himself so I'm fine with that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

One thing that's been bothering me. The fact that at least one scum willingly took an investigation is a bit odd. I think there are at least 2 theories to explain this from what i can see.
A: They decided to ship Wheat, and when that turned out to be the investigation they didn't think they could exit without looking scummy so they just took it. This might point to either NS giving up and doing a losing play. Or one of Datisi/Moment thought it would be fine if they were investigated because they wouldn't get lynched today and their teammates are likely to endgame even if they get lynched sooner or later.
B: Gambit. More than one scum are in the investigation pool. The plan was to have a guilty, get one of the scum lynched. And then the rest of the town would think the 2 other players are conf!town even if one or two of them are also scum.

[Something_Smart]

Why would they refuse to take an investigation? Then they just get executed.

[Something_Smart]

Something_Smart is one of my favourite players on this site.

Aw you're gonna make me blush and I don't even know if Azelfs are capable of that.