Micro 952 - The Coalition: ItGBSMoD [game over!]

Deimos27 · Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:02 am

My previous towncase was tailored for Pooky/Aldus, it's a lot weaker against him as an individual.
Right now I'm concerned by what I perceive to be an unnatural, uncritical confidence.
He seems like he thinks he's been done gamesolving since D1.

Klick · Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:05 am

That's because, like me, none of his reads have had a chance to be tested

Deimos27 · Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:06 am

In post 2273, Deimos27 wrote:Has DnD looked bad today? I thought they've looked pretty good.

In fact, I challenge you to sell me on this. What about DnD's performance today do you consider to be so much worse than your own, that you're amazed someone could look at them and come to the opposite conclusion?

Deimos27 · Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:07 am

In post 2276, Klick wrote:That's because, like me, none of his reads have had a chance to be tested

Does't this contradict your previous comment that he's been "consistently right"?

Deimos27 · Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:39 am

DC do you remember why you were leaning scum on me at the beginning of the game?

In post 233, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 192, Tuxedo Mask wrote:They are also being way less confrontational.
are you high or something?

I'm less confrontational because we're in the look for good guys phase, not the look for bad guys phase.

Pooky do you remember why you responded so provocatively here?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:42 am

There were some unresolved tensions from the lovers game - emotions ran pretty hot - he hammered me at lylo on the last day and the town lost

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:42 am

well i dont remember if it was the hammer or close to the hammer - but I think he was town and fooled by his scum lover into helping the scum kill me after I made a really ballsy bait move to reveal a scum quicklynch plan

DonCorleone · Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:47 am

In post 2279, Deimos27 wrote:DC do you remember why you were leaning scum on me at the beginning of the game?

Does it matter?

DonCorleone · Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 am

I mean, I do, but why is it important

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:51 am

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=725

yea he was the L-1 vote and his scum-lover hammered me on the next post and won the game.

Alduskkel · Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:57 am

VOTE: Pooky

This is insane. You guys are seriously considering eliminating Klick instead of Pooky? Are we reading the same game?

In post 2177, Dumb and Dumber wrote:I think that you're scumread on pooky is overexagerated and doesn't even make much sense either.

He's also making valid points that you're ignoring.

Such as?

My scumread isn't over-exaggerated. Pooky has been scummy and continues to be scummy. Look at his posting this phase -- there's next to no scumhunting, basically just unhelpful interactions and an apathetic move towards voting Klick when it looks like he might actually survive today against all reason. If Pooky were town he'd be like, "oh crap, tomorrow's gonna be lylo, better scumhunt as hard as I can before I get eliminated."

And on top of that, you're scumreading someone who hard-defended town Day 1. What scum does that? In your scenario, it's two competing town wagons -- scum doesn't give a damn which one goes through in the end.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:44 pm

In post 2285, Alduskkel wrote:And on top of that, you're scumreading someone who hard-defended town Day 1. What scum does that? In your scenario, it's two competing town wagons -- scum doesn't give a damn which one goes through in the end.

Well according to you, I did for Koba-town.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:52 pm

In post 2285, Alduskkel wrote:basically just unhelpful interactions and an apathetic move towards voting Klick when it looks like he might actually survive today against all reason

? I think i've been fairly transparent on my reads - I moved towards Klick-scum after it was clear DnD was not just posturing for a Pooky-Lynch-Town-Flip followed by going after Klick hard tommorrow in LyLO.

As for Klick's scumpartner I think it's probably between Aldus and Wug. As we have a ML to give after Klick flips scum - we should be able to cruise to a win.

I'm fairly sure it isn't DnD - Deimos - DonC just from their interactions with the Klick slot throughout the game.

Deimos27 · Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:53 pm

In post 2280, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:There were some unresolved tensions from the lovers game - emotions ran pretty hot - he hammered me at lylo on the last day and the town lost

Ok, that explains it.

In post 2282, DonCorleone wrote:
In post 2279, Deimos27 wrote:DC do you remember why you were leaning scum on me at the beginning of the game?
Does it matter?

I guess it's unlikely you'd give me an answer that changes my read on you, so no, it doesn't matter that much.

Deimos27 · Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:57 pm

In post 2285, Alduskkel wrote:My scumread isn't over-exaggerated.
Klick
has been scummy and continues to be scummy. Look at her posting this phase -- there's next to no scumhunting, basically just unhelpful interactions and an apathetic move towards voting
Pooky
when it looks like he might actually survive today against all reason. If
Klick
were town she'd be like, "oh crap, tomorrow's gonna be lylo, better scumhunt as hard as I can before I get eliminated."

And on top of that,
I'm
scumreading someone who hard-defended town Day 1. What scum does that?

Hmmmmm

Deimos27 · Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:00 pm

I do want to re-read yesterday and see if the Clover defense is compatible with pocketing or seeking towncred.

Dumb and Dumber · Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:44 pm

Finally! I'll be around today.

-Dumbass

Dumb and Dumber · Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:46 pm

In post 2272, Klick wrote:The fact that momentum is swinging towards me today after working my ass off to save now-confirmed-town Clover is ridiculous to me.

Were you going to be at risk if people listened to your Clover defense?
If town's choices were in {Clover, Pooky} with both town, I don't quite see why it's such a town move to defend one of them loudly.

-Dumbass

Dumb and Dumber · Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:54 pm

In post 2285, Alduskkel wrote:My scumread isn't over-exaggerated. Pooky has been scummy and continues to be scummy. Look at his posting this phase -- there's next to no scumhunting, basically just unhelpful interactions and an apathetic move towards voting Klick when it looks like he might actually survive today against all reason. If Pooky were town he'd be like, "oh crap, tomorrow's gonna be lylo, better scumhunt as hard as I can before I get eliminated."

And you don't think he'd fight back as scum?
I can imagine that at least fighting back and having his partner tunnel him sets his partner up nicely; sitting back and just accepting the firing doesn't really sound like a scum!Pooky move either.
Pooky doesn't strike me as the kind of person who resigns that easily as scum.

-Dumbass

Wug · Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:12 pm

VOTE: pooky

Wug · Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:12 pm

noticed he's not the wagon any more
he should be

Datisi · Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:32 pm

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Datisi · Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:32 pm