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[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 1.3

Redados(2)

~ ItalianoVD(25), N0bleNoob(10)

shellyc(1)

~ Porkens(22)

Porkens(1)

~ MiniMegabyte(11)

Micc(1)

~ T-Bone(8)

ItalianoVD(1)

~ Micc(12)


Not Voting (3): shellyc(18), Redados(14), GeniusGamer(23)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-24 16:20:10)

FLAVOR

[GeniusGamer]

The flavor text is getting better and better

[N0bleNoob]

Some reads:

N0bleNoob - Trying to push people to gain information. Has pushed Porkens about pushing, but funnily enough is also doing a lot of pushing. Pushing is good because it’s how we find information.

GeniusGamer - Originally, his posts don’t have a lot of content. He was making light observations but not really saying anything or pushing anyone. He is talking more now, but he is clearly still finding his footing. I’m getting serious “new player” vibes.

Porkens - Still doing a lot of pushing and being aggressive. This feels like a viable day one strategy to get more information out in the open.

I am glad somebody actually saw what I was doing there. Essentially I was doing exactly what I was accusing Porkens about. I just wanted to see how he acted when HE was the one answering MY questions and not vice versa. Yes asking questions and being aggressive are part of the game and need to be done, I think there is a point where you can't read a player since he has been the one questioning all the others instead of nobody questioning him.

[Redados]

152 - While I agree with your frustration, I think that your actions may have come across as hypocritical. Porkens is an SE. That doesn't mean his play is guaranteed to be good, but I think it means that he is more likely to be aware of what he is doing and using that strategy on purpose.

However, your reaction in questioning Porkens back isn't harmful, since more aggression and pushing is good for the game regardless. No harm no foul

[Porkens]

They would be the third vote and according to guides the third voter is likely to be a mafia pushing a mislynch. I'd reread their posts and probably change my vote to them.

I don’t think I’m understanding this. The way I interpret this, you’re saying that if someone has three votes, the third person is likely to be mafia. This... doesn’t make sense to me. Please elaborate.

I suspect it’s the

other

interpretation.

You added your answer to a request for elaboration directed at Shellyc, as quoted above.

Three posts later

, you asked why

I

was answering other people’s questions and only wanted the person you questioned to answer.

Just so I know what you are really saying, what is “the other interpretation”?

[GeniusGamer]

They would be the third vote and according to guides the third voter is likely to be a mafia pushing a mislynch. I'd reread their posts and probably change my vote to them.

I don’t think I’m understanding this. The way I interpret this, you’re saying that if someone has three votes, the third person is likely to be mafia. This... doesn’t make sense to me. Please elaborate.

I suspect it’s the

other

interpretation.

You added your answer to a request for elaboration directed at Shellyc, as quoted above.

Three posts later

, you asked why

I

was answering other people’s questions and only wanted the person you questioned to answer.

Just so I know what you are really saying, what is “the other interpretation”?

“The other interpretation” is the way you interpreted Shelly’s post.

[Porkens]

Let’s dig inTo that post together genius.

Shelly: “They would be the third vote and according to guides the third voter is likely to be a mafia pushing a mislynch. I'd reread their posts and probably change my vote to them.”

I think you and I agree that this statement is false. By this logic any wagon with three votes is somehow more likely to be a mislynch.

Instead, let’s look at it this way. Shelly called the third vote on TBone “likely scum on a mislynch,”
So what does that tell us about shelly’s read on TBone?

[GeniusGamer]

Let’s dig inTo that post together genius.

Shelly: “They would be the third vote and according to guides the third voter is likely to be a mafia pushing a mislynch. I'd reread their posts and probably change my vote to them.”

I think you and I agree that this statement is false. By this logic any wagon with three votes is somehow more likely to be a mislynch.

Instead, let’s look at it this way. Shelly called the third vote on TBone “likely scum on a mislynch,”
So what does that tell us about shelly’s read on TBone?

Shelly seems to doubt that T-Bone is scum.

[N0bleNoob]

152 - While I agree with your frustration, I think that your actions may have come across as hypocritical. Porkens is an SE. That doesn't mean his play is guaranteed to be good, but I think it means that he is more likely to be aware of what he is doing and using that strategy on purpose.

However, your reaction in questioning Porkens back isn't harmful, since more aggression and pushing is good for the game regardless. No harm no foul

I am not frustrated at anyone for any reason, I am sorry if I came across that way.

[Porkens]

I agree, and so, in light of that, what are we to make of this:

To answer GeniusGamer in post 82,

it's the other interpretation

.
Though he's talking now and im unvoting. UNVOTE: T-Bone
The true motivations of other players are unknown if you are town...
You can assume but not be sure, unless you are scum. Still early on and we can only mainly speculate. Every action will lead to more speculation.

?

[shellyc]

I disagreed that T-Bone was scum, thus unvoted in post 98.

My read on T-Bone changed after he started talking and I got better vibes from him. To unvote a seemingly town-ish player is what I should do.

[Porkens]

They would be the third vote and according to guides the third voter is likely to be a mafia pushing a mislynch. I'd reread their posts and probably change my vote to them.

You said this before he posted. Did you think he was town at this point?

[shellyc]

I did not. I said likely, not 100%. I was pointing out how a third person to jump on a bandwagon might be scum trying to push someone (could be town as well, nothing is certain)

[T-Bone]

I disagreed that T-Bone was scum, thus unvoted in post 98.

My read on T-Bone changed after he started talking and I got better vibes from him. To unvote a seemingly town-ish player is what I should do.

Why was me talking enough to get you to change your vote?

[T-Bone]

Or maybe more specifically, what did you see that made you think not scum?

[shellyc]

1. your push on Micc for "pocketing', which I agree with.
2. your push on GeniusGamer's wording, which I think is valid.

those two reasons made me unvote you in post 98.

[T-Bone]

Okay cool.

[Porkens]

So why aren’t you voting for either mic or genius?

[shellyc]

It's only a single thing and not enough for me to cast a vote. Yet T-Bone had two actions to make him seem town.

[MiniMegabyte]

I am so confused with where this conversation is heading

[shellyc]

Minimegabyte, you've mainly said things like "I'm confused" and "I'm a little lost". Not contributing a lot of game-advancing content and seems a lot like scum to me.
VOTE: Minimegabyte

[MiniMegabyte]

To be honest I have a few reads but I am actually a little lost with what has been discussed in the past few hours but from what I have read I have a couple of reads and one who I think to be scum right now

[MiniMegabyte]

Minimegabyte, you've mainly said things like "I'm confused" and "I'm a little lost". Not contributing a lot of game-advancing content and seems a lot like scum to me.
VOTE: Minimegabyte

Funny how I have over 10 posts and 2 of those are ones saying I’m confused how is that mainly saying that?

[MiniMegabyte]

Unless shellyc, you are mafia and knowing I’m town trying to push me up. Would make sense right now considering I have after this post 15 posts and only two of them state I’m confused about conversation

[MiniMegabyte]

So I am going to UNVOTE: Porkens and VOTE: Shellyc