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[Isis]

I am like Hoops' biggest detractor do you think I'm bussing her?

[geraintm]

Dunnstral was found dead by the Moderator. He was a

Town Psychologist

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Day 2 ends in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

ok, catching up now.
1st, I am 99% sure I've never been in a game with this role before. So that's nice

[Isis]

Psychologist is a great role and should be used in more setups

[geraintm]

Ger town

well, I approve of this excellent post

[geraintm]

dunnstral - don't think they ever got above 2 votes at any point, just from hoopla and not science

I looked over their posts in my 495 and said I thought they were throwing around lots of votes but they are unlikely to be scum, too obvious to be scum.

my last interaction with them was 1000, where they thougt I was defending popopopo but I wasn't.

[geraintm]

looking over Bella's post

most of the game I am pretty null on their posts

VOTE: popo

Can we have some consolidation? The fact we have four separate, not leading wagons on 2 votes cries 'vote parking'.

I'm coming around on dun, annoyingly.

^^ this caught my eye though.
pushing the wagon onto popopo and also a mention of Dunn.
and then just nothing for the rest of the data except a "why not popopo" post, they just seemed to get themselves onto popopo and no come off.

I'd eat my hat if the scum team was nitty/Una/klick

VOTE: hoops

Tbf I'd still do dun. Or popo.

I would be completely fine with executing Hoopla anyway
If her wagon falls apart I'll switch to popopopopopopo but I do think if we give up now we'll just be executing her D3 anyway

This basically mirrors my thoughts..I'm concerned about the level of... construction in hoops' posts (how hard is it to say you were stoned and made a few weird posts?) But like...*shrug*

like, there was nothing to it, I can't see a good reason for them to end up on popopo and just let the lynch happen.

their progression of votes was galron > hooplas > popopo

and none looked good to me now when I look back.
so yeah, just have them in non-town pile

[geraintm]

looking over galron
there just wasn't much interaction with popopo.
they got a vote onto hoopla and stuck it there for the second half of the day.

post 694 defended popopo's lurkiness

I didn't like Galron much yesterday (See post 488 and 172). 537 def said to them I didn't like thei rposts. after this they then didn't move their vote I think.

overall - would place them middle of the road at best, their DAy 1 I didn't like though that much.

[UnaBombaH]

Unabomber is scum with hooplah and he will receive the friendly neighbor visit tomorrow.

This is someone who has read this mafia game

You two have got to be kidding me.

[UnaBombaH]

And just to be frank - I am not going to get any friendly visits from anyone this game.
Even trying would be a waste.
I keep my door closed tight.

[UnaBombaH]

His main scumread was me, and I’m very well aware I’m town.

Maybe low info wifom kill?

"Mommyy, notscience is making scummy posts again!"

In all seriousness though.
You feel comfortable just drawing this conclusion out of nothing?
Or is this an actual "established" path to take in games?

Typically kills like that means scum is comfortable with the game state which means we are way off.

I feel very much comfortable with Hoopla being scum, and we have all the necessary power to push it through once they fumble tomorrow.
But your way of thinking here implies town!Hoopla?
I do not like the idea being thrown around based on the kill being "low info".

Just my two cents.

[Isis]

I think notscience caring about his read on notscience in a 13p is a little myopic narcissistic, but it is true that when no UTR dies, it's more likely a UTR is scum

[UnaBombaH]

Porkens made a good catchup, even if their reads are necessarily off.
Now this in combination with what Isis and notscience are currently selling makes me feel a bit uneasy.

[Isis]

Una can you make four consecutive posts without making a scummy one.

[UnaBombaH]

Why do you think my posts are scummy?
Why do you even consider me scummy here?

I thought my reads have been rather open, not taking into account how the day ended.
Until that Hoopla-wagon I was feeling good about my reads, and when I was fully sold on that one, we all have to back down.
If you can't understand my mentality there, I can't help you much with your read on me.

I currently have a rising feeling that a combination of you/Porkens/notscience are trying to hard-sell an Una-lynch for today, and I'm most definitely gonna fight that.
"Scummy" or not.

[UnaBombaH]

No, notscience is actually still town here.
I think I understand where they were coming from.

Upon checking RFS's ISO from D1, I still do not think they have made any substancial effort yet.
And I have a feeling they might actually be a rather experienced player hiding behind that gimmick-alt.
Would explain why they've been so "chill" with their posting so far.

[Isis]

I think you're a better lynch after we get confirmation that Hoopla is mafia.

A lot of your posts seem too narrative to me but it might be a toneread. I'm not sure. It's certainly not the case that I'll accuse you of not making any reads or having a read spread that is somehow scum indicative of itself.

[UnaBombaH]

I think you're a better lynch after we get confirmation that Hoopla is mafia.

Wait why? I want them lynched as well!
And I'd like to hear this from Porkens as well.

Why would scum!Hoopla suggest scum!Una?

And while you're at it,

apparently town!Hoopla would suggest town!Una somehow then?

How/why/what?

A lot of your posts seem too narrative to me but it might be a toneread. I'm not sure.

If this is your main grief with me here, I'd suggest you go and check pretty much any of my older games for reference.
This is my town game, and it's almost certainly a tone-thing then. (tounthingthen)

[Isis]

my verbiage regresses more when I drink

[notscience]

I think notscience caring about his read on notscience in a 13p is a little myopic narcissistic, but it is true that when no UTR dies, it's more likely a UTR is scum

I usually try to look back on early night kills reads bc you can figure stuff like that out. I try to look for scumreads in particular.

I obv can’t really use it to push anything until a few more nights pass with similar kill mo’s

I don’t really get how una thought I’m trying to angle for his clown either but I digress

[Isis]

I wanna be clowned

[Galron]

dunnstral - don't think they ever got above 2 votes at any point, just from hoopla and not science

I looked over their posts in my 495 and said I thought they were throwing around lots of votes but they are unlikely to be scum, too obvious to be scum.

my last interaction with them was 1000, where they thougt I was defending popopopo but I wasn't.

This seems... defensive.

[Galron]

looking over Bella's post

most of the game I am pretty null on their posts

VOTE: popo

Can we have some consolidation? The fact we have four separate, not leading wagons on 2 votes cries 'vote parking'.

I'm coming around on dun, annoyingly.

^^ this caught my eye though.
pushing the wagon onto popopo and also a mention of Dunn.
and then just nothing for the rest of the data except a "why not popopo" post, they just seemed to get themselves onto popopo and no come off.

I'd eat my hat if the scum team was nitty/Una/klick

VOTE: hoops

Tbf I'd still do dun. Or popo.

I would be completely fine with executing Hoopla anyway
If her wagon falls apart I'll switch to popopopopopopo but I do think if we give up now we'll just be executing her D3 anyway

This basically mirrors my thoughts..I'm concerned about the level of... construction in hoops' posts (how hard is it to say you were stoned and made a few weird posts?) But like...*shrug*

like, there was nothing to it, I can't see a good reason for them to end up on popopo and just let the lynch happen.

their progression of votes was galron > hooplas > popopo

and none looked good to me now when I look back.
so yeah, just have them in non-town pile

I agree with most, if not all of, this though.

[geraintm]

dunnstral - don't think they ever got above 2 votes at any point, just from hoopla and not science

I looked over their posts in my 495 and said I thought they were throwing around lots of votes but they are unlikely to be scum, too obvious to be scum.

my last interaction with them was 1000, where they thougt I was defending popopopo but I wasn't.

This seems... defensive.

I guess it does, I was just interested myself in my intereactions with them, as I could remember their creepy icon all the way through the game but noting of what they said

[geraintm]

trying to work out why galron didn't react to my post on them though

[geraintm]

Wanted to look over isis

their switch to lynching popopo wasn't...good

VOTE: popopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopopo

that was their vote. no explanation

I want to flip popo

this later, like giving themselves an out when popopo comes up not scum

I see it as a scum indicative vote no matter what popo flips.[/quote


there is nothing to their posts, just fluff all the way through. Day 2, they haven't done anything that I can get a read on at all, I cannot understand their thinking at all or what they hope to accomplish today.

they were part of the push on hoopla too, voting for them in 820 and I cannot work out why

I was on my phone so I couldn't investigate thoroughly.

I feel trolled.

VOTE: Hoopla

this was an earlier vote for hoopla

VOTE: Hoopla

Hoopla is who I'd most like to exile.
The way she describes her mens rea with respect having more doubts based on a previous town roll seems like the way mafia would describe the information rather than how town would, even though it's the same information. It's a little bit hard to explain and an intuition thing but it's come up more than one time. I wouldn't be too prideful to deadsheep her if wrong but she's very much front of the pack for me.

and this is again just wishy washy. but everything from isis, over 135 posts is the same. not substance at all

VOTE: Replacement for Sujimichi

another earlier vote in the game. again I cannot undertand why,,,,

VOTE: Hoopla

urgh...just I hate this slot.