Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[Hoopla]

actually, this will do for now;

UNVOTE:
VOTE: unabombah

my bella vote looked very pointless.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 2's Seventh Votecount

bob3141 (3): Replacement for Sujimichi, Isis, notscience
UnaBombaH (2): Porkens, Hoopla
Replacement for Sujimichi (1): Galron
Isis (1): UnaBombaH
Bellaphant (0):
geraintm (0):
Hoopla (0):
Porkens (0):
notscience (0):
Emperor flippyNips (0):
Galron (0):

Not Voting (4): Emperor flippyNips, Bellaphant, geraintm, bob3141

With 11 voters, 6 votes are required to execute.

Day 2 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

[UnaBombaH]

I'm reading this back-and-forth between Bob and notscience, and trying to decide whether this could ever be T/T or S/S. And if this is T/S, who is in the right after everything's said.

See town doesnt say this.


This alsmost always comes from scum. Who are being bashful about the fact they think town simply will not lynch them.

This post caught my eye as the first one that felt very "flimsy". Town most definitely says things like this. Especially when it's directed at a scumread of them. It's to provoke a reaction, mainly a vote, from the other person. The harmful thing this can achieve however, is an 1v1 "to the death" between two townies. When it becomes two pigheaded townies throwing shit at each other, or playing chicken, both often end up saying "scummy" shit.
Hence why I think you should both take a step back and re-assess your reads on each other before continuing. Meanwhile the rest of us need to think if this can be two people sincerely misreading each other, or if there's really scum on either side of the fence.
I've been thinking both of them are just town, but a lot has been thrown for these past pages.

[Porkens]

I liked that post actually thought it was pretty spot on

[UnaBombaH]

I get the feeling you are both town (just gut)

Could you guys just entertain that idea for a few posts and see if you have any mutual scumreads?

OK, apparently porkens reads this similarly.
Well good, maybe I'll just get called a newsreader again, and not outright scum.

[notscience]

Hm.

I’ll think about it.

[notscience]

Sell me on isis una? I’ve liked most of their posting

[notscience]

Hoops shade noted too

[UnaBombaH]

bob3141 (3): Replacement for Sujimichi, Isis, notscience

Just picking this up for myself for later - unless bob is scum here, no way is this all town.
So far my suspicions have been on RfS's lurky playstyle, but the way Isis started the day got me on my toes.
So if bob is town, one of these two is most likely scum.
If bob is red, I don't think it's too likely that either of them is bussing though.

[UnaBombaH]

i still like bob for town. his latest burst has been refreshing. due to tone? perhaps. or perhaps i just like that someone is going toe-to-toe with the cheeky notscience. please keep it up.

i am too scared to lead the charge on notscience (don't want to get called "bucko"), so will be requiring a strong town hero to make the first move. will it be you, bob?

OK, I know I'm being biased here, but this actually sells me further on town!notscience.

[UnaBombaH]

actually, this will do for now;

UNVOTE:
VOTE: unabombah

my bella vote looked very pointless.

I think you shouldn't be allowed to vote today. Wtf it this even.
If you manage to flip green this game, I'm not so sure I want to play any more games with you.
But if you flip red, town!Hoopla is still fine in my books.

[UnaBombaH]

Sell me on isis una? I’ve liked most of their posting

The way they picked up your first posts of the day.
Felt like they were spinning it to fit their own agenda of scum!Una.
And setting up lynches beyond Hoopla tomorrow.
And when I asked for more, they were only able to come up with "maybe it's a tone-thing".
OK, I know they aren't voting for me as of now, but that almost makes me scumread that earlier push more.

They got nothing more out of it, but manufactured shade on me.
And if they get their way, bob flips today, Hoopla tomorrow, and Una after that.
That automatically screams "scum agenda" to me, and makes me feel even more certain about town!bob.

[Isis]

I like this avatar.

Use it on your main.
Play on your main.

[Galron]

Bob wagon as it is makes me think there are no more than two maf in RFS/Isis/notscience.

Still think Hóopla is scummy, but I did agree with her on a recent post. Just five minutes ago I read it, and I can't recall it dammit all. Anyway, I don't think she's scummy with Porkens, but that's kinda throwing a dart logic.

Bob and notscience I don't know. I didn't follow a lot of it.

Starting to think flippy just doesn't want to put the work in as scum.

[UnaBombaH]

Starting to think flippy just doesn't want to put the work in as scum.

Yeah, I'm a little worried for Flippy as well. I believe in their ability to do things as town, but it seems this isn't one of those games..

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Bellaphant has been prodded. She has (expired on 2020-07-21 06:10:00) to post in thread before I start to look for a replacement. If she posts before I find a replacement, she can stay.

[Isis]

i'm catching up in between MTGA turns.

If I get to current and no one called me out for voting one of my townreads i will be mad

[Isis]

oh no it's my townreads arguing for pages and pages

[Isis]

actually, this will do for now;

UNVOTE:
VOTE: unabombah

my bella vote looked very pointless.

I think you shouldn't be allowed to vote today. Wtf it this even.
If you manage to flip green this game, I'm not so sure I want to play any more games with you.
But if you flip red, town!Hoopla is still fine in my books.

Is this a scumslip? It reads like a weird perspective scumslip. Una needs to die either way though

[Isis]

i'm caught up and mad
It is perturbing that people are treating my bob vote as serious and doing wagon analysis
nobody is paying attention there must be 8 scums.
VOTE: Una
Hoopla's behavior is almost unparsable at this point but Una has a hated modifier I guess.
I think the bob/notscience 1v1 is pretty plainly TvT and should be used to solve the game.
It certainly shouldn't be used for "guys I'm not sure which mislynch off of this is most likely to go through, could you guys signal which one you're sympathetic to before I commit?"
I don't think this game is really hard anymore and people are treating it like it is and it's weird.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 2's Eighth Votecount

UnaBombaH (3): Porkens, Hoopla, Isis
bob3141 (2): Replacement for Sujimichi, notscience
Replacement for Sujimichi (1): Galron
Isis (1): UnaBombaH
Bellaphant (0):
geraintm (0):
Hoopla (0):
Porkens (0):
notscience (0):
Emperor flippyNips (0):
Galron (0):

Not Voting (4): Emperor flippyNips, Bellaphant, geraintm, bob3141

With 11 voters, 6 votes are required to execute.

Day 2 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

[UnaBombaH]

Is this a scumslip? It reads like a weird perspective scumslip. Una needs to die either way though

How on earth do you twist that to a scumslip?
I'm starting to feel exhausted with you.

I've said it multiple times that Hoopla is scum in my eyes.
If they SOMEHOW manage to flip town, I'm not going to be very happy with their play here, hence "I'm not sure I want to play with them anymore".
If on the other hand they do flip scum (like I still assume they will), I'm fine with the games I've had with town!Hoopla.

No slips, nothing deeper there.
Their vote on me is ridiculous (as is yours), but unlike you I'm not "allowed" to vote Hoopla until tomorrow.

[Porkens]

Omg stuff is happeningggg

[UnaBombaH]

Isis is scum or way out there with their read on me.
Somehow they manage to cherry-pick scummy vibes out of everything I say.

I think the bob/notscience 1v1 is pretty plainly TvT and should be used to solve the game.
It certainly shouldn't be used for "guys I'm not sure which mislynch off of this is most likely to go through, could you guys signal which one you're sympathetic to before I commit?"
I don't think this game is really hard anymore and people are treating it like it is and it's weird.

Gee, I wonder how long it will take to understand how Una

really

reads that situation.

When it becomes two pigheaded townies throwing shit at each other, or playing chicken, both often end up saying "scummy" shit.
Hence why I think you should both take a step back and re-assess your reads on each other before continuing.

^^trying to get them to re-assess instead of forcing us into a 1v1.

I've been thinking both of them are just town, but a lot has been thrown for these past pages.

Literally saying I've been thinking they are both town, but the amount of shit they threw at each other needs further reading and interpreting. NOT SAYING we should lynch either.

bob3141 (3): Replacement for Sujimichi, Isis, notscience

Just picking this up for myself for later -

unless bob is scum here

, no way is this all town.

Maybe my english is worse than I thought, but I'm

implying

here, that I still think bob is town.

So far my suspicions have been on RfS's lurky playstyle, but the way Isis started the day got me on my toes.
So if bob is town, one of these two is most likely scum.

And finally here. Notice how out of the three of you,

I'm NOT singling notscience out as a potential scum

?
Because I believe they are both town.

So get the hell out of here with your "scumslips" and "no one noticed I voted one of my townreads".
Yea, I didn't notice or

care

what you did with your vote, because from my PoV bob is still town, and you are scum.

[Isis]

But if you flip red, town!Hoopla is still fine in my books.

It reads like a scumslip because "if you flip scum, I'm ok with you how you played town this game" is nonsensical, but "if we were unaligned this game, I'm ok with how you played town this game" makes more sense.

For the record I think threatening to blacklist people contingent on their alignment tends to use factors outside of a game to win the game and shouldn't be allowed.