Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[Galron]

You lost me porkens

Porkens is saying I make three posts that tacitly call Bella town, when it was more nuanced than that.

[Porkens]

Uhhh i think I might have dreamed something that didn’t happen. Please ignore me I just woke up

[Galron]

Now it's time for an ice cream break. Moose tracks.

Not a crumb btw. The first flavor that came to mind.

[Porkens]

That’s a flavor of ice cream for all you europeans who don’t get Hagen faz or whatever

[Galron]

Sell me on isis una? I’ve liked most of their posting

The way they picked up your first posts of the day.
Felt like they were spinning it to fit their own agenda of scum!Una.
And setting up lynches beyond Hoopla tomorrow.
And when I asked for more, they were only able to come up with "maybe it's a tone-thing".
OK, I know they aren't voting for me as of now, but that almost makes me scumread that earlier push more.

They got nothing more out of it, but manufactured shade on me.
And if they get their way, bob flips today, Hoopla tomorrow, and Una after that.
That automatically screams "scum agenda" to me, and makes me feel even more certain about town!bob.

Who is the "they" you're referring to? I have to confess the pronoun thing is messing me up also. I assume you're talking about Isis. If so, do you think her change and explanation from bella to bob to bella was manufactured? And with Hoopla, you've been scum reading her, right? I think nearly all of us have been, including Isis. Is this a perspective slip? I thought you had had Isis and Hoopla partnered up, but now? Unless you're saying Hoopla's a bus tomorrow? I guess that that's what you have to be saying. Otherwise the contradiction is too blatant.

Anyway, if Isis's explanation for switching votes back to Bella was sincere, does that change your conclusion about bob here? Frankly, I'm going back and forth on bob myself.

[Bellaphant]

@isis, stop being weird. You keep making these weird speculation posts about klick that I clearly can't respond to and it makes me super uncomfy.

Bob v notsci did very little for me...I still low-key scumread bob and townread ns.

Someone mentioned me mentioning dun - I said I was coming around on him being town, not pushing him in the post that was quoted.

I'm here now, I've read up, why am I being wagoned? Something about Popo (100% stand by a an exile of a lurker' day one, that day one was too long anyway) and a low info night kill? Anything else? I much prefer it when people talk to me, so...have at.

[Isis]

I'm trying to drop the topic

[Bellaphant]

Is noone else getting increasingly strange vibes from the Una/Isis back and forth of 'but how can I be scum when hoops is scum?!?!'

[Bellaphant]

Talk to me about more interesting things then?

[Porkens]

Is noone else getting increasingly strange vibes from the Una/Isis back and forth of 'but how can I be scum when hoops is scum?!?!'

Looking for traction or what?

[notscience]

What don’t you like about bob bella?

[Bellaphant]

I don't feel like he's really...engaging? The conversation with yoy it felt like he clearly hadn't read/understood your view and was just throwing stuff around? Plus his response to your 'lynch me if you can' felt overwrought. Nothing in his slot makes me town-ping (compared to say, Gera, who I think is voting me but is obv town) and the conversation with you, I found it logical and easy to follow your thought process but didn't come away with the same opinion.

Like yesterday, I really struggled with Dun's posting style and agrresion, but there was a run of posts he made which made me go 'ugh, town bin'. I haven't had it at all from Bob, or the replacement slot. I actually used to be able to read not mafias shit posts, so I'm hoping I get something there.

It's Una and Isis I'm struggling with most. Una seems in step with me like 90% of the time and the other ten percent says alarming things. Isis I just can't get my head around at all.

[Bellaphant]

To add - at first I thought I was struggling with Bob because of low content and I like it less that he posted a page of content to you and my response is still 'meh'.

[UnaBombaH]

Una seems in step with me like 90% of the time and the other ten percent says alarming things.

Same as before then - what about my posting alarms you? And to be fair, I've been townreading you most of the time here, but I still want you to go a little deeper than "90% good vs 10% bad".
Apparently there was something you didn't like about me throwing those posts back and forth with Isis earlier? Mind picking an example?

Is noone else getting increasingly strange vibes from the Una/Isis back and forth of 'but how can I be scum when hoops is scum?!?!'

Or if you mean that I'm implying that I'm 100% not scum

because

Hoopla is scum, then you have misunderstood the whole point of my argument.

I think you're a better lynch after we get confirmation that Hoopla is mafia.

Isis was saying that I'd be

more likely

to flip scum if Hoopla does. That was the main point I disagreed with.

[UnaBombaH]

Hoopla + one of gera/galron + one of flippy/RfS?

Updated version: Hoopla + one of gera/galron + one of Not_Mafia/RfS. I'm trying to make sense of my earlier hunch of deepwolf!Isis aiming for lategame.

UNVOTE: - might return to Isis tomorrow if I don't think anyone else is more reasonable after a good nights sleep.
I'm gonna do separate ISOs for both of the G's tomorrow as well.
I guess it's time for me to put in the effort. Can't complain about Not_Mafia/RfS otherwise..

[Bellaphant]

I am like Hoops' biggest detractor do you think I'm bussing her?

Una, I think I'm reacting against this really - like, it was in response to me questioning a tone thing and felt like an overreaction: I'll reread the convo you had with her and try and read it without that colouring me.

I'll.go back and read you in iso tonight, to clarify myself about what's bugging me..I'd like to have that secure town read.

[bob3141]

will catch up later today

[Bellaphant]

I believe they have under-performed

But like the turning point of when you'd assess her play as an underperformance is when I started compellingly pushing her lol

It's circular

before that like maybe 1 person said she was scummy.

There is always at least one person that thinks you're scummy d1 of a 13p

Hard disagree, btw. I think klick getting drunk and suggesting a scum read changed the momentum here a lot more.

[bob3141]

internet keeps cutting out so prob be tommorrow

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 2's Twelfth Votecount

Bellaphant (4): Isis, geraintm, notscience, Not_Mafia
UnaBombaH (2): Porkens, Hoopla
bob3141 (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
Replacement for Sujimichi (1): Galron
Isis (0):
Not_Mafia (0):
geraintm (0):
Hoopla (0):
Porkens (0):
notscience (0):
Galron (0):

Not Voting (3): Bellaphant, bob3141, UnaBombaH

With 11 voters, 6 votes are required to execute.

Day 2 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

[Porkens]

I’m willing VOTE: bellephant

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 2's Thirteenth Votecount

Bellaphant (5): Isis, geraintm, notscience, Not_Mafia, Porkens
UnaBombaH (1): Hoopla
bob3141 (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
Replacement for Sujimichi (1): Galron
Isis (0):
Not_Mafia (0):
geraintm (0):
Hoopla (0):
Porkens (0):
notscience (0):
Galron (0):

Not Voting (3): Bellaphant, bob3141, UnaBombaH

With 11 voters, 6 votes are required to execute.

Day 2 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

[Isis]

E1

[Not_Mafia]

UNVOTE: Bella

[Isis]

Not_Mafia did you realize that you don't immediately win the game if we exile Bella the way you do if it's you?