Newbie 2016: Snapdragons (Game Over)

[JamSV]

Alright I am neither confirming or denying. In a scenerrio where I fakeclaimed doctor would it change your views? Obviously mafia knows the truth and town can only believe what I say. Does that make a difference based on reactions to my claim. How would you see looker who was the only one to have openly opposed my claim.

Just make a choice.

I think this game resolves the same way.

Looker's 0 interest makes me further think its looker +bm.

I think if Jams is scum than he has won already, though i think thats unlikely.

If you kick BM, i kick looker tomorrow.

If you kick looker and he flips scum, pretty sure jam kicks BM tomorrow.

If you kick me its game over.

If you kick jam, who knows.

If I get agreements from BM and Jams I will move this day phase to it's end.

Go for it.

[TheThirteenthJT]

If we flip lickety and raya we have a potential order of the game lol.

[TheThirteenthJT]

Alright I want to stick to my gut here. I think from everyone 72 is scum. Just everything adds up for me here. As for partner Jamsv or looker is where I struggle.

At this point I'm clearing BM. If in wrong well I apologize tot he town. Anyways. I want either Jamsv or Looker to vote 72. I don't want the other to hammer just yet if you are town.

Also I guess I do t really need BMa approval. Of course h would like this regardless of alignment.

[JamSV]

Can you try to work out if its me or Looker? All I can tell you as a fact, is Looker is scum. After that, odds are, BM is scum.

[TheThirteenthJT]

I don't know why it can't be Looker and 72. You seems to have ruled that out.

[TheThirteenthJT]

And I'll work it out as best as I can. I'm dead anyways for next day if we hit scum.

[JamSV]

And I'll work it out as best as I can. I'm dead anyways for next day if we hit scum.

You aren't dead. If we hammer Looker, and then you die N3. Me and 72 hammer BM D4 to win.
I can work out its BM quite easily. Looker is scum. That's already 10000% clear. Then BM is just scum by extension primarily. As soon as BM ruled out 72 + Looker I knew it was BM + Looker as the scum team. I've provided a plethora of reasons why Looker is scum. He's ignored them all, as has Looker also. 1226!. This is basically a confirmation that its Looker. It's so painstakingly obvious. If Battle Mage was actually town with Looker, he'd have seen this, and would scum read Looker. Yet he doesn't. Then we have 1203 and 1204 Which is just a really blatant attempt at distancing. All that has to be done is to read 1203, 1204, and 1226. Then using logic and association reasoning to hammer BM for the town win.

Once again, you can't die tonight, it would be game over. Ignoring how obvious the scum pair is, if in day 4, its Me, 72, and BM/Looker, me and 72 instant hammer the remaining scum. If its BM, Looker, and me/72, BM and Looker instant hammer the remaining scum. BM is simply agreeing with you that you'd die to try and seem more town. If D4 has:
TTJT + Looker + Jam. It's still possible for scum to win.
TTJT + 72 + BM. It's still possible for scum to win.

[TheThirteenthJT]

While I see your points scum won't risk me being alive as doctor. I would obviously protect the other confirmed town. Unless you don't think I'm the doctor.

[JamSV]

While I see your points scum won't risk me being alive as doctor. I would obviously protect the other confirmed town. Unless you don't think I'm the doctor.

50% chance, the scum we hammer today is roleblocker. My gut very much says its more likely to be BM as a roleblocker than Looker. Looker is still the safer kill out of the 2.

[TheThirteenthJT]

Alright then similarly I would want BM or 72 to vote Looker before I do.

[TheThirteenthJT]

Regardless on who is voted I would want the other player who did not vote to not hammer but still post before I hammer. I'll leave the clock to you guys to crossvote.

[JamSV]

Sorry

@Mod

I don't know if this is allowed but if it isn't please ignore the post.
Can you flip a coin for me? I don't want it to seem like I'm just pretending to do one.
Heads = BM vote
Tails = Looker vote

[72offsuit]

Who cares. Im town.

[72offsuit]

I Might as well vote then.

VOTE: Looker

Gg if your scum jam, which u r probs 35 percent of the time.

[72offsuit]

Lets see if it was bm+jam

[72offsuit]

If there is no quick hammer, then ive further narrowed it down

[72offsuit]

If no hammer then looker is 100 percent scum

[72offsuit]

Then jams is clear if no hammer

[72offsuit]

TTJT, how good do u think LL is at reading players?

[72offsuit]

Btw TTJT, the crossvoting is nonsense.
You should just ask for everyone to vote for your decided kick.

[TheThirteenthJT]

If it is BM and jam it was going to be difficult anyways.

[72offsuit]

My mind is still boggling that you think im scum

[72offsuit]

Why?
My vote has narrowed it down

[TheThirteenthJT]

I wanted to add pressure. It was obvious scum would talk to their partner to figure out what to do. With Looker missing I was testing things out.
LL as in Luciano?

Technically I did when I asked Jams to vote you.

[72offsuit]

1. I still dont understand what you think my scum motivation is to lead out on the outset of today

2. LL declared me as obvtown.

3. bm is a scumbag. Reread his ISO from the point of assuming he is scum and then redo so from the perspective of him being town.