Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[UnaBombaH]

Una who is your top three towns

Quid pro quo Clarice...

[Isis]

There hasn't been tons of movement since my last readslist and I'm starting to think I should be townreading you for resonance. It doesn't seem like I'd be the jury you'd be playing to this game and amping up my appreciation for Hoopla's ability to manage her day 1 associatives seems like it's probably Occam's Razor.

I doubt you're feigning ignorance of my reads after matching them so closely.

Probably not the kind of turning point that you're gonna be happy with.

Why do you feel notscience and Isis are the most important slots for you to sort? Previously I thought it was because they were at a similar standing but I guess it's some other quality.

[UnaBombaH]

Previously I thought it was because they were at a similar standing but I guess it's some other quality.

There's that, and an uncanny feeling that your slots are somehow connected.
I'm usually good at picking stuff like that up, and I really thought you might either be scum together or even share a town-PT.
But I guess you just vibe on some similar frequencies.

[Isis]

I strongly identify with Peko's desire for shining justice and implied I'd have a distorted relationship with the slot on like page 3. This game's not as complicated as you make it. Also he's a clown.

[UnaBombaH]

I doubt you're feigning ignorance of my reads after matching them so closely.

Probably not the kind of turning point that you're gonna be happy with.

Not sure I understand this part.

And what you're saying is these..

bobtown, geraintown, or nstown?

..are your top townreads?

[Isis]

Spoiler:

We'll say porkens is too high to be in the chart, that's what i get for skimming the first few pages to remember who's in this game.

This is my readslist, there is a 3way tie for third but Bob would be a frontrunner now just from me getting more and more creeped out by the manner in which he's getting shaded by people.

[Isis]

Flippy has been replaced by a cow now obviously there is that

[UnaBombaH]

Ah yes, the readslist that I couldn't search for because it's not in words!
So Bella is the penguin, and the flippy-slot was the Koffing?

[Isis]

Spoiler:

[Isis]

So Bella is the penguin, and the flippy-slot was the Koffing?

Yes that's what I posted

[Bellaphant]

It's posts like on this page, where Una has said that she wants to execute two people she thinks are prob town (me and nm) because she can't get hoops that are weird to me. Like...she says flipping me will help her sort Isis , who she scum reads but also isn't sure if she does because she 'doesnt know who would follow her'. I'd love to flat out town read her but post like these Are so...it looks really good on the surface but when you think more it's 'una just said she'd rather execute town than pursue a scum read'

Who do you actually scum read , una?

[Bellaphant]

On the last page! I missed a page somehow

[UnaBombaH]

Who do you actually scum read , una?

Hoopla.
Isis is melting me a little, but I'd still say they are next in line when it comes to actual scumreads.
I'm still trying to find the energy and motivation to do a proper ISO-read on gera and Gal, because I feel like one of them almost has to be scum if Isis is not.
If I find something there, that might ease my anxiety a little more.

It's posts like on this page, where Una has said that she wants to execute two people she thinks are prob town (me and nm) because she can't get hoops that are weird to me.

Take the context into consideration.

I do not want Bella executed

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but I'd like to see them flipped

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if that makes any sense.

So like said, I do not want to vote for you, but if you were to be executed anyway, I'd use that info to take another step with my read in Isis.
If you flip scum, then my reads have been wrong anyway, and I do not think scum!Isis would bus you this hard here.

So policy-gank on N_M / RfS comes like third, and that's where I'm currently at.

And this was after Hoopla and Isis. You are NOT on my lynchpool Bella.

Make any more sense now? (also a dude, but that kind of stuff doesn't really bother me that much. )

[Replacement for Sujimichi]

If it wasn't obvious, my last couple of posts were in jest. Isis had set me homework. I actually enjoy Not_Mafia.

Don't like Bob's reaction in looking for a (loose) scum-slip in that post.
VOTE: Bob

Could someone explain to me why Bob is town? Being argumentative, verbose, and asking questions doesn't make you town. When you look at the logic and reasoning he uses, I struggle to see it coming from a town mindset in parts.

[Replacement for Sujimichi]

Why am I a policy lynch, Una?

[Replacement for Sujimichi]

It's posts like on this page, where Una has said that she wants to execute two people she thinks are prob town (me and nm) because she can't get hoops that are weird to me. Like...she says flipping me will help her sort Isis , who she scum reads but also isn't sure if she does because she 'doesnt know who would follow her'. I'd love to flat out town read her but post like these Are so...it looks really good on the surface but when you think more it's 'una just said she'd rather execute town than pursue a scum read'

Who do you actually scum read , una?

I agree that it's weird, but at the same time, I think town contradict themselves and change reads on the drop of a dime all the time.
So I actually townread him for his lack of concern to use *airtight* logic, since that's what scum at least aim for.

[Replacement for Sujimichi]

And that isn't the same thing that Bob's doing. The problem with Bob isn't that he contradicts himself but how he decides to interpret other people's posts to the point where I think his misinterpretation is intentional and not accidental.

[Replacement for Sujimichi]

I ask people to go back and look at my interactions with Bob when I was scumreading him for his geraintm read. I scumread him for reason A, and he decided to misconstrue this as reason B or C, no matter how many times I tried to explain it to him. The scum motive is that he can scumread me and defend against reason B or C, but can't against A because it's right and makes sense.

[UnaBombaH]

Is this scum!RfS actually trying, or has town!RfS at least somewhat arrived?

Might not agree with the read, but I could see these ^^ posts coming from town.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 2's Eighteenth Votecount

Bellaphant (4): Isis, geraintm, notscience, Porkens
Replacement for Sujimichi (3): Galron, bob3141, Hoopla
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia
bob3141 (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
UnaBombaH (0):
Isis (0):
geraintm (0):
Hoopla (0):
Porkens (0):
notscience (0):
Galron (0):

Not Voting (2): Bellaphant, UnaBombaH

With 11 voters, 6 votes are required to execute.

Day 2 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

[Isis]

Yeah that's still sounding like what I think town!bob does

when I can read town!bob's posts

[Replacement for Sujimichi]

Mr. Fredrick

: I don't think Bob is self voting.

Could you give me an example or at least a game where he does this as town, Isis?

[Isis]

In a broad sense your complaints seem similar to how I would complain about this kind of goalpostshifty arguing style

amrun when did you redact your beleif it was bad idea.

Bob:

Massclaiming leaves us with dr vs mafia roleblocker, and phone operator.

What?

There isn't even a mafia roleblocker in this setup.

Massclaiming leaves the doctor outed and provides no further benefit.

Although I do think that, between them knowing their neighbors aren't doctor and the rolecop and people accidentally (or intentionally) giving away information, they'll know who the doctor is by D3 at the latest. So maybe we should mass neighbor claim on like D2.

Hahhahahahaha I meant rolecop but I missed that the mafia rolecop is a neighbor too, so disregard entirely. I never read this set up ahead of time because I didn’t expect to be in team mafia at all.


Titus is still town though.

That isnt a clear redaction. It 3 words placed in middle of sentance. When quoting another persons post.


You were best of quoting your original offending posts with disregard entirely.

Otherwise no one but smart would notice

And I think somewhat similar play happened later in the game if you want to click one of the hyperlinks to get over to it.

That said, I might be empty handed for trying to read him if I have to write of the way he interacts a lot this way, but I think enough people with enough aggregate town equity are townreading him that I think he's a good clear, that makes me feel less on a tightrope about him.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Mr. Fredrick

: I don't think Bob is self voting.

Could you give me an example or at least a game where he does this as town, Isis?

I've corrected the votecount and the votecounts before that that involved that vote.

[Bellaphant]

I scum read the replacement slot yesterday but I think they've been rather town today. It might be bias because they share my Bob read.

Also, I think it was hoops who declared bob and his wagon all town day one ,- this was sketch at that time and worse in hindsight.

Una, I'm not kicking off because it's me you mentioned eliming, you asked me to point out those red flag kind of posts and boy those were some. I think it's because I tend to toen read 'reasonable', so the things that seem unreasonable come off really scummy.