Newbie 2016: Snapdragons (Game Over)

Looker · Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:02 am

"Hey, man, I'm a doc that didn't protect the cop because I was busy. No, I didn't submit V/LA. No, I didn't ask for an extension. Just get off my back, alright??"

72offsuit · Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:27 am

In post 1400, Looker wrote:"Hey, man, I'm a doc that didn't protect the cop because I was busy. No, I didn't submit V/LA. No, I didn't ask for an extension. Just get off my back, alright??"

I don;t think comments like this are helpful.

Learn to win gracefully.

Jam and I had you pegged, don;t gloat.

72offsuit · Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:28 am

In post 1397, LuckyLuciano wrote:It's almost like newbie tells work. For the record, I replaced out not because I was being pressured but because both Quick and Looker replaced in.

I HATE replacing out, but i was SUPER close to replacing out when those 2 joined too.

72offsuit · Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:29 am

In post 1398, LuckyLuciano wrote:If we eliminated scum for scum slipping instead of pushing town for catching scum, town won this game.

Yep, i got screwed over for townreading your slot/porekns correctly, and for correctly VOTING SCUM BM IN LYLO

Dunnstral · Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:30 am

What was the point of fake claiming doc? You were already clear, mafia knew you were lying because of their own roles (they know there's no doc in the setup because they don't have a roleblocker)

I guess it didn't harm the town, in any case

72offsuit · Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:30 am

TTJT's case was like 90% because i was against a town player's lynch. That's what really annoyed me this game.

72offsuit · Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:31 am

Anyways, apologies for not letting you claim Dunnstral. I was going to hammer you even if you claimed a power role if that helps.

72offsuit · Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:32 am

In post 1399, Looker wrote:Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know - you hate us. Got it.

The doc bluff was hilarious.

Focussing on player's solid cases as to why plaayer's are scum > fancy play any day.

LuckyLuciano · Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:33 am

In post 1403, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 1398, LuckyLuciano wrote:If we eliminated scum for scum slipping instead of pushing town for catching scum, town won this game.
Yep, i got screwed over for townreading your slot/porekns correctly, and for correctly VOTING SCUM BM IN LYLO

In post 1405, 72offsuit wrote:TTJT's case was like 90% because i was against a town player's lynch. That's what really annoyed me this game.

Yeah, being correct is seen as scummy when town players are unable to see why you are correct. "They were right and I was wrong, and I'm not okay with that, so they are scum!"

72offsuit · Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:33 am

I've once tried so hard to pretend I wasnt cop that was almost not believed when i actually claimed cop.

72offsuit · Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:33 am

In post 1408, LuckyLuciano wrote:
In post 1403, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 1398, LuckyLuciano wrote:If we eliminated scum for scum slipping instead of pushing town for catching scum, town won this game.
Yep, i got screwed over for townreading your slot/porekns correctly, and for correctly VOTING SCUM BM IN LYLO

In post 1405, 72offsuit wrote:TTJT's case was like 90% because i was against a town player's lynch. That's what really annoyed me this game.
Yeah, being correct is seen as scummy when town players are unable to see why you are correct. "They were right and I was wrong, and I'm not okay with that, so they are scum!"

This ^

LuckyLuciano · Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:33 am

I don't say that to slight anyone btw, but to point out where some of the new players went wrong for future games.

72offsuit · Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:34 am

Anyways, thems the breaks. I thought raya/dunn was scummy ++, so I'm as culpable as anyone.

GG scum. Next game won;t be so easy

72offsuit · Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:35 am

I'm still really not sure why TTJT wanted to kick me so badly. I;d like to know so I can prevent whatever I did that seemed scummy. Thoughts?

LuckyLuciano · Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:38 am

Raya's push onto me was... not something I expected out of an SE slot. If a newbie made that push I wouldn't have scumread them.

Pedit: I didn't read the game to thoroughly after replacing out, but certainly everyone ignored my reads list I gave upon replacing out. I gave a PoE of {BM -> Raya -> Clark} with the condition that Clark is only scum if BM is town and Raya is scum, if not look to {Looker, Quick}. I also hard defended you. But even in death I was ignored. Oh well. It's probably my fault for being abrasive early on. A big part about being mafia is getting people to like you. Being good at reading people is one of the least important skills in this game.

LuckyLuciano · Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:39 am

EBWOP: about playing mafia

Looker · Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:49 am

In post 1401, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 1400, Looker wrote:"Hey, man, I'm a doc that didn't protect the cop because I was busy. No, I didn't submit V/LA. No, I didn't ask for an extension. Just get off my back, alright??"
I don;t think comments like this are helpful.

Learn to win gracefully.

Jam and I had you pegged, don;t gloat.

Aahhh, I guess that could be seen as insulting. I pointed it out because I thought it was clever.

Looker · Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:50 am

I immediately went "Wait, but we're goons."

JamSV · Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:51 am

In post 1401, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 1400, Looker wrote:"Hey, man, I'm a doc that didn't protect the cop because I was busy. No, I didn't submit V/LA. No, I didn't ask for an extension. Just get off my back, alright??"
I don;t think comments like this are helpful.

Learn to win gracefully.

Jam and I had you pegged, don;t gloat.

"Jam and I had you pegged"
Jam had you pegged*
You got me hammered.

Looker · Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:53 am

Either way,

salt salt salt salt salt salt salt salt salt

TheThirteenthJT · Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:02 am

In post 1404, Dunnstral wrote:What was the point of fake claiming doc? You were already clear, mafia knew you were lying because of their own roles (they know there's no doc in the setup because they don't have a roleblocker)

I guess it didn't harm the town, in any case

I didn't want a fakeclaim that would go uncountered. I was confirmed town and if there was a doctor they would out themselves and I can claim I fakeclaimed. Obviously I thought no scum would counterclaim and go 1v1 with a conftown even if they knew I was fakeclaimjng.

Dunnstral · Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:08 am

That's pretty decent thinking

However, to a real doctor, you're still confirmed town, so their reaction may differ to what you were hoping for

TheThirteenthJT · Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:09 am

In post 1416, Looker wrote:
In post 1401, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 1400, Looker wrote:"Hey, man, I'm a doc that didn't protect the cop because I was busy. No, I didn't submit V/LA. No, I didn't ask for an extension. Just get off my back, alright??"
I don;t think comments like this are helpful.

Learn to win gracefully.

Jam and I had you pegged, don;t gloat.
Aahhh, I guess that could be seen as insulting. I pointed it out because I thought it was clever.

I wanted to claim doctor before the day ended in case we did have one and I would be targeted over Clark. Obviously I didn't know if there was or wasn't but I was banking on there being one. It would have potentially outed another town and made this greater than 50 50.

This game works against me because I scumread everyone and I can't read looker so Poe is he is town.

And 72 I actually though you played.much different than our previous game. I know you said you hate meta. The only think you recreated was a hammer without a claim and pairing that with my thoughts on LL situation I was getting bad vibes. I have a hard time shaking off my reads and looking at others and it's something I know and it screwed us here at the end.

TheThirteenthJT · Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:10 am

In post 1421, Dunnstral wrote:That's pretty decent thinking

However, to a real doctor, you're still confirmed town, so their reaction may differ to what you were hoping for

I know and Looker called the bluff I believe.

LuckyLuciano · Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:19 am

In post 1421, Dunnstral wrote:That's pretty decent thinking

However, to a real doctor, you're still confirmed town, so their reaction may differ to what you were hoping for

I agree that this is a really interesting line of thinking. I also agree that it wasn't

fully

thought out, but every great gambit player I've ever encountered started off making plays like this.