Nah I am not a readlists kinda person.In post 691, TheThirteenthJT wrote:Would you be willing to change that and give at minimum a readlist?In post 521, Shiro wrote:Hey that is false although commonly yes I have 0 reads at day 1In post 518, Tipsy wrote:the whole "oh they seem so relaxed" thing has never made sense to me... unles u have meta on how shiro acts in given situations.In post 511, Panther and Fox wrote:I don't find value in wagoning Shiro currently. Their contributions could certainly have been stronger, but their reaction to pressure on them has felt organic, they seem rather relaxed even with attention turning their way.
lookking over shiro's iso, they have given 0 reads and instead just a lot of deflection. would be perfectly comfy with them being voted out.
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In post 686, Deimos27 wrote:Wasn't expecting to be prodded during V/LA. Have skimmed through to page 24 now, will finish catch up tomorrow. I think Tipsy's take on catboi's read of me in 552 is excellent. It's a silly assessment to make from town!catboi pov and they should've been aware enough of that fact to comment on it in their initial post, outlining what my scum motivation is to explicitly sr him but vote TTJT.
Lol at the "overexplaining" take. Why should I wait for someone to ask me why I'm not voting my strongest scumread, when I can be transparent from the outset?
I just found the whole maneuver oddly overwrought. It felt like there was a self-consciousness about making that vote that was indicative of someone whose primary concern is optics.In post 687, Deimos27 wrote:
I can keep lanes of attack open by scumreading TTJT, I don't need to solo wagon him. Catboi's slot was a large wagon at the time, why would scum!me dodge it when I've already done the work in-thread to justify a hop onto it.In post 553, catboi wrote:Sometimes you want to keep lanes of attack open. I wouldn't have batted an eye at it if not for his explanation, which felt like an overjustification.- catboi
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We're short on time, so I'm going to explicitly ask:For those opposed to the Battle Mage wagon, who would you prefer to vote?I want to know in advance if people are going to jump back on me, rather than getting blitzed at the deadline.
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I liked him looking at panzer's claim and examining possible different roles in 562 to see if there was a possible alternate motive, it feels like more legwork that scum would be willing to put in. The reactions to shiro and mastina feel fairly genuine, I could see a newer town player having those thoughts. The question to starbuck in 692 is a good one, I like his scrutiny there. My one issue would be that he agrees with my point on shiro in 650 but in 692 says "in no way does tuxedo not feel scummy". I don't know if that's him forgetting who I replaced, given the lack of comment on me otherwise.
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starbuck - This is mostly residual from Holden, I've not really had much of an impression left by anything she has posted.
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thethirteenthjt - My early gutread feels fairly reinforced with his catchup posts but I want to see what conclusions he draws.
shiro - I thought the overall response to pressure was slightly town, but I'm wary of anyone turning around to call me town after I relent on them.
mariar - I think the admission of not wanting to call out sujimichi but wait and see what he'd do is a townish thing to say but there's still not a lot to go by from her and I wish I knew if her scumread of me is entirely Tux-based. Had this one over shiro but then flipped it as I was assembling this list. Neither are really strong reads, which are very hard to come by in this game.
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panzerjager - His pushes mostly feel like things he believes in, and the statement "I promise you if I grab a protection tonight, you'll know." in 576 feels...believable?. Also sounds somewhat apathetic which would fit with not having a win condition.
tipsy - Reads since arriving look mostly fine but unremarkable, hasn't said anything obviously townish. I agreed with the assessment of Battle Mage's early play in 475's reads but beyond that nothing clicks super hard.
mastina - I just don't really want to deal with thinking about her posts, a lot of the reasoning is way out there and I do not believe the mason claim whatsoever especially given deimos not being very towny.
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catboi did not respond to my accusing them of being jeircho so im just gonna assume im correct about that and execute them for the lols.
ummm basically Battle Mage has been rly weird and cocksure. his early game read as super desperate to be townread and then later on his stances have just seemed farfetched and unreasonable for town to genuinely reach. i guess there's a possibility he's a moonunit but i dont rly bank on that.beeboy wrote:I'd like 1 representative from each of the leading wagons to inform me why they are right and why the other wagon is shit.
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I played a game with battlemage fairly recently actually he played incredibly aggro in what was almost a selfish manner to some degree?
I am trying to catch up on the game which I'll probably give up doing by page 10 and it seems he really wanted to control the power of whatever the heal mechanic was, which feels in character for him.
I haven't reached the part where he started stretch on his reads and maybe I could start to see eye to eye with you then, but I am not so sure I'd vote him outside the fact I just like the people on the wagon.
Catboi I have literally 0 intel on, but I usually like to assume wagons are bad when I enter games :^).ah yes, beeboy style reads;
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(=^・ェ・^=))ノ彡☆ I dunno, no one has told us to selfvote for the clear yet~In post 715, Tipsy wrote:haha oh god yeah i just realized this wagon is basically the animes (+ mastina) executing the noavi, huh?
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