Mini Normal 2154 - Endgame

[Gypyx]

Yeah, but you're saying it like it makes them a lesser townie, have i misunderstood that part?

[Looker]

So looker, do you have reason for voting other than hopping on?

If you're town, we use your wagon as PoE. I also like assessing the votes on competing wagons, i.e. you and bugspray.

I do think it slight scummy to not reply to it and instead go on about the pronouns, but that is probably a personal issue.

Do you think the pronoun outrage is a gimmick/AtE?

Slight scum feeling on bugspray, Psyche
Neutral on truth Overkii Looker
Town Gypyx Nash Osuka Superbowl

Do you typically not vote the people you think are scum?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah, but you're saying it like it makes them a lesser townie, have i misunderstood that part?

Yes, because it seems to me that it is pretty clear why people are voting for me.

[WaltertheDunce10]

So looker, do you have reason for voting other than hopping on?

If you're town, we use your wagon as PoE. I also like assessing the votes on competing wagons, i.e. you and bugspray.

I do think it slight scummy to not reply to it and instead go on about the pronouns, but that is probably a personal issue.

Do you think the pronoun outrage is a gimmick/AtE?

Slight scum feeling on bugspray, Psyche
Neutral on truth Overkii Looker
Town Gypyx Nash Osuka Superbowl

Do you typically not vote the people you think are scum?

Alright,
Maybe
I usually wait to vote, but I would like bugspray's response since it seems they ignored it with the second part of your question
VOTE: Bugspray

[bugspray]

I do think it slight scummy to not reply to it and instead go on about the pronouns, but that is probably a personal issue.

If I get misgendeted in a post I usually will just kneejerk call them out and then think my work here is done

[bugspray]

Respond to 171 is just a lot more reading than I'm gonna do on my phone and right now I don't feel like getting out of bed for a while so I guess you'll just have not execute me me in the meantime

[bugspray]

The tldr is I still feel like his posts are mostly noncommittal or saying things are are not hot takes and completely safe opinions I am not a coward

[Truth]

Hello again, Looker!

bugspray voted for LicketyQuickety earlier who the mod has told everyone is town. Trying to execute someone who everyone knows is town is a mafia play. If it was an accident, I would expect them to address their mistake later but they didn't.

[bugspray]

Wait is there an ic? Brb

[bugspray]

Wow I should read sorry about that lq

[Psyche]

For all of you who find truths posts so far deeply jarring, I suggest you look at one of his other normals on here because he somehow made it alive for several days and there’s a lot of very puzzling things about how he played that game

Not going to go through this work, why not just tell us what happened lol?

no i mean you really really really should go through his iso in that game because nothing i can say here would even come remotely close to conveying just how outstandingly bizarre that game was

what i can tell you is that his behavior this game so far is a good indicator of what you'll see in the other thread

wasn't truth town in that game? if so, why did you vote for him here if his posts here are similar to his posts there?

felt like it

That's actually a way better answer than I was expecting, thanks.

You’re welcome

were you expecting me to flame you or what

just as a side note osuka has an interesting style reflected here and in the rest of his iso that seems simultaneously self-conscious (really attentive to how his posts appear) and irreverent (apathetic about coming off as coarse). strikes me as a conflict, potentially even a little disingenuous, but could easily prove innocuous.

[bugspray]

I guess I'm just going really fast and missing details. It's really preventing me from doing what I'm supposed to

[bugspray]

And now my actions are preventing other people from doing the right thing D:

[osuka]

For all of you who find truths posts so far deeply jarring, I suggest you look at one of his other normals on here because he somehow made it alive for several days and there’s a lot of very puzzling things about how he played that game

Not going to go through this work, why not just tell us what happened lol?

no i mean you really really really should go through his iso in that game because nothing i can say here would even come remotely close to conveying just how outstandingly bizarre that game was

what i can tell you is that his behavior this game so far is a good indicator of what you'll see in the other thread

wasn't truth town in that game? if so, why did you vote for him here if his posts here are similar to his posts there?

felt like it

That's actually a way better answer than I was expecting, thanks.

You’re welcome

were you expecting me to flame you or what

just as a side note osuka has an interesting style reflected here and in the rest of his iso that seems simultaneously self-conscious (really attentive to how his posts appear) and irreverent (apathetic about coming off as coarse). strikes me as a conflict, potentially even a little disingenuous, but could easily prove innocuous.

Truth was town but I’ve come to the conclusion that for the time being, when trying to read that slot, one should abandon all reason

Can you elaborate as to why I come off as self-conscious?

[superbowl9]

superbol9

ToT

When I say dunnstral is "towned for now" I mean that I am townreading him now, and have marked it in my head as a read to revisit at some point.

The question I have is if he kept his RVS vote on purpose.

It's on purpose to an extent. I think the bugspray wagon has been productive in the pressure it has produced so far, even if I'm still somewhat null on bugspray if that makes sense. I don't townread them, so taking my vote off the wagon just because it was RVS would do more harm than good imo (also why I questioned Gypyx for taking his vote off).

[Psyche]

VOTE: osuka

213 seems an odd response given that he's developed more specific/coherent negative reads on walter and bugspray since his truth vote. early votes by default are baseless and ambiguous but it's suspicious that osuka's complacent about keeping that way given that even in his view he has other options.

[superbowl9]

If you're town, we use your wagon as PoE. I also like assessing the votes on competing wagons, i.e. you and bugspray.

Welcome looker!
1 billion % disagree with this though - you should not wagon a player you think has good town chances just for POE. You already know from last game that I don't like VCA as it is misleading and easily manipulable but throwing up a counterwagon on whoever just because it makes VCA easier seems like losing strategy regardless.

[superbowl9]

Yeah, but you're saying it like it makes them a lesser townie, have i misunderstood that part?

Yes, because it seems to me that it is pretty clear why people are voting for me.

Scumping from this - scum are more likely to be hyperaware of lacking areas in their play

[superbowl9]

bugspray what type of commital, "high-hanging fruit" posts would you like to see from someone during RVS? Because the one person who really went commital imo (Redtea's 61) you called wolfy.

To me it just seems like you're just attacking opportunistically.

[superbowl9]

Well, he sticks to doing non-commiting posts that don't really mean anything new / push the game foward,

Gypyx I still don't get your case on Walter (at that point in the game). He's "noncommital" and lurky sure, but there are others who would match this description as well. Was Walter just the first one to cross off the list, or did he say something specifically that flagged you?

[superbowl9]

/multipost

[bugspray]

bugspray what type of commital, "high-hanging fruit" posts would you like to see from someone during RVS? Because the one person who really went commital imo (Redtea's 61) you called wolfy.

To me it just seems like you're just attacking opportunistically.

i'm rpetty sure the definition of wolfy i use is different from everyone else to mean "hunting" and then people say its bad and thats probably informed me having weird reads for a long time

the fact that your vote on me for a non-random reason indicates we are no longer in RVS

[LicketyQuickety]

Let it be known that I do not feel Psyche is working with Town, but against it.

[LicketyQuickety]

Wow I should read sorry about that lq

I will not hold it against you.

[superbowl9]

bugspray what type of commital, "high-hanging fruit" posts would you like to see from someone during RVS? Because the one person who really went commital imo (Redtea's 61) you called wolfy.

To me it just seems like you're just attacking opportunistically.

i'm rpetty sure the definition of wolfy i use is different from everyone else to mean "hunting" and then people say its bad and thats probably informed me having weird reads for a long time

the fact that your vote on me for a non-random reason indicates we are no longer in RVS

Yeah I interpret wolfy as like aggressive, but some ppl seem to be using it to mean scum.

Arguing about the semantics of RVS is not really my aim here, but I will say that I view RVS as the period where you poke around at other players until you find something worth pushing, which was still the case for me before 170.

I'm the 5th person you switched your vote to in the first 7 pages, I'm just not quite sure what your goal is in target switching so much. You not addressing that part of my post doesn't help paint you in a good light.