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[Porkens]

I’m liking Sunflower Guy so far. Welcome to the thread!

We still need to decide who exactly to eliminate though. So who will that be? I do notice a wagon on Redados, and I’m not getting very town-like vibes from him... I’ll just keep my vote here until I’m convinced otherwise.

VOTE: Redados

How about that one

[ItalianoVD]

really? I read it was E-1 but eLimination works

My bad. Didn’t even see your post.

[SJReaver]

Whoa!, that wagon became a train. Here I told myself that this would be a slow game.

Let me grab a monster and I'll dive in!

[SJReaver]

Once upon a time, before caffeine and electric lighting, the majority of humans had little choice but to sleep at 1 am and get a good night’s rest. This is why they call it the Dark Ages.

Thankfully, we have progressed as a species and I can spend my night doing what matters: hunting for mafia scum!

But why dnt yall help me? try telling me what u think is the current situation and general impressions on every player

Sunflower-gal: Awesome. The best. Top ten.
Other people: ehh... they're okay.

Welcome to the game. Have a puppy.

Micc expressed scumleans on three people, Porkens, myself, and one of the newbies. He expressed stronger scumreads on both myself and Porkens, but proceeded to wagon a newbie. I reason that the reason he did that, is because he knows it would be a tougher fight to get another SE limmed, rather than a newbie. I reasoned he made that choice, because he is scum and doesn't want to have that fight on Day 1. Otherwise it seemed like it was a toss up between Porkens for I for his strongest scumread, and I think he should have tried to wagon his strongest scumread.

Damnit, I accused you of not having a solid reason for your scumread on Micc and then you spit out something like this. Now to see if you keep up the pressure on word/Micc or switch to an easier target.

Okay, so now you've devolved into...baiting? Please don't, this is a newbie game. I'm requesting that SE to SE, regardless of your alignment, or mine.

What do you mean by baiting here?

I believe you mean that word321 asking you for your opinion on redos and italian. Are you suggesting he’s trying to throw suspicion on one without doing it directly? Or, do you think he’s just fishing for your opinion so he can repeat it and get on your good side?

I'm referring trying to bait an emotional response with taunting. I don't want to be taunted, sure. I also don't want players taunting other players. It's not productive. It's also not very nice.

That also works. Thanks.

U cant fake that kind of reaction as scum; so the bait worked as intended

I find this entire T-Bone/word321 interaction strange.

I read it as T-Bone being blunt and straightforward while word321 claims he’s using some psychological kung-fu that doesn’t make a ton of sense.

It may be because I’m not used to word’s personality, but that comes off as oddly defensive. Combined with him spending his time arguing with T-Bone and not attempting to hunt mafia or give reads, this is making him more suspicious in my mind.

I have more pages to go, so I’ll see how it develops, but I’d like to stick my vote here right now.

VOTE: Word321

[SJReaver]

Okay, finished.

The T-bone and word interaction did not make me comfortable. So far, word has asked a bunch of leading questions and pontificated, but produced no solid reads.

Then a genius wagon springs up, which nicely pulls word's butt out of the fire by shifting focus.

I'm guessing there's one scum on this wagon.

A 3-person bandwagon. I can see how this is a solid vote, so I'm going to place this at E-1. GeniusGamer is my biggest sus as stated before.

Hmm...

[shellyc]

Are you trying to say that I look scummy by jumping on this BW, which I have stated that I agree with?
Are you trying to say that Town's wincon is not to eliminate scummy people?

[SJReaver]

Accidentally left out Italiano, should be this:
Italiano -> Minimegabyte -> SJReaver -> Porkens -> Hat guy (need to hear more) -> Redados -> T-Bone -> GeniusGamer

shelly, the problem with pretending that you don't remember word's name is that you've never had issues remembering names before.

Even on day one, you typed out red and noob's name as Redados and N0bleNoob. You obviously copy and paste those names. I suspect you did the same for that list above, except for 'hat guy.'

[shellyc]

I said he was Hat Guy because I didn't really manage to read all of his posting, and the most recognisable part of him was his hat avatar
and no, I didn't copy and paste them, I just like writing things out in full

[shellyc]

Also don't miss post 505 please

[shellyc]

If I had copy and pasted, it would be MiniMegabyte, not Minimegabyte.

[SJReaver]

Are you trying to say that I look scummy by jumping on this BW, which I have stated that I agree with?

Yep.

Are you trying to say that Town's wincon is not to eliminate scummy people?

Oooh, that defensive reaching.

Pardon while I do my happy dance.

[SJReaver]

If I had copy and pasted, it would be MiniMegabyte, not Minimegabyte.

...I don't know if that's a good point or not.

Oh well, I'm voting for word right now, anyway. Let the smart people figure out if I'm right.

[shellyc]

"Oooh, that defensive reaching."
What do you mean?
and in 511 why did you discredit yourself and ask SEs to help you out.

[shellyc]

And why don't you think the others that have jumped on the bandwagon like GeniusGamer are suspect?
You have said I'm a "plagiarist" in your opening post and you're still on me. What aspect of my play leaves more to be desired?

[shellyc]

I don't think I look like I demonstrate no thought in ISO, and I didn't blindly jump on that bandwagon. I don't understand why you are trying to push me.
I said that he was passive and SR him in post 384 and even way back in post 106.

[SJReaver]

"Oooh, that defensive reaching."
What do you mean?
and in 511 why did you discredit yourself and ask SEs to help you out.

It means that's a bizarre take-away from what I said.

I don't think being honest discredits myself. I don't know if you made a good point or not, so I admitted as much.

[SJReaver]

And why don't you think the others that have jumped on the bandwagon like GeniusGamer are suspect?
You have said I'm a "plagiarist" in your opening post and you're still on me. What aspect of my play leaves more to be desired?

I don't think I look like I demonstrate no thought in ISO, and I didn't blindly jump on that bandwagon. I don't understand why you are trying to push me.
I said that he was passive and SR him in post 384 and even way back in post 106.

[shellyc]

Also please answer my above posts

[SJReaver]

^^ Sorry, still getting used to the software.

I already have most of them as town reads.

My note on you was "

Shellyc

- Apparently a plagiarist? Null read."

My null read hopped on a wagon with a bunch of townreads. I believe it's a scum motivated wagon. I go through your ISO and it seems you forgot word's name despite not forgetting anyone's name before and stuck him right in the middle of your reads.

Ergo, I comment. Continued defensiveness leads to happy dancing.

Also please answer my above posts

I'm trying to consolidate.

[shellyc]

Townreading too many people is a scum meta imo
Word replaced in a few hours ago, when I made the reads list. It was not a deliberate intention of mine
Why do you think this is a scum motivated wagon when there is evidence from ISO pointing to him being scum?

[shellyc]

Also why do you think asking questions and inquiring is "continued defensiveness"?

[SJReaver]

Townreading too many people is a scum meta imo
Word replaced in a few hours ago, when I made the reads list. It was not a deliberate intention of mine
Why do you think this is a scum motivated wagon when there is evidence from ISO pointing to him being scum?

The majority of people are townies.

When it came up, how fast it came up, and who it came up on.

Also why do you think asking questions and inquiring is "continued defensiveness"?

Oh, don't worry. Your current questions are fine.

I totally think you're mafia and that you and word are partners. I expect others will be along to comment, and they might ask questions of either of us.

[shellyc]

So you read GeniusGamer as town and concede this may be a mislynch?
I'm not mafia. I know PoE wise I might look bad, but I don't know how you consider me as scummy all of a sudden
For word, I haven't seen him post much, and I'd like to take a closer look at him

[ItalianoVD]

Wait, wait, wait 472 was Shellyc? I thought it was Redados asking me this question. That’s why I responded the way I did.

[ItalianoVD]

So I gotta know. Why’d you ask me that Shelly?

I’ll tell you the way I perceived it now that I know it was you and not Redados.

BTW @Redados, forgive my confusion, but everything I said to you in my past several posts still stand.