Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[Porkens]

I like your style never hiding behind a penguin

[Porkens]

Style*

[Porkens]

*beaver

[Bellaphant]

Haha the beaver is from the sup like...years ago..I keep meaning to change my Avi and forgetting.

[Bellaphant]

Oh, I meant to say galron has like 50% more posts than me but I think most people could name like...three people I'm townreading and two I'm scum reading and I just can't do that with his iso.

[Not_Mafia]

Intent on Galron

I am a doublevoter

[Isis]

That has a lot of synergy with your Jester alignment.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 2's Thirtieth Votecount

Galron (4): Not_Mafia, UnaBombaH, Porkens, Bellaphant
Replacement for Sujimichi (3): Galron, bob3141, Hoopla
Bellaphant (2): geraintm, notscience
bob3141 (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
Porkens (0):
UnaBombaH (0):
Not_Mafia (0):
Isis (0):
geraintm (0):
Hoopla (0):
notscience (0):

Not Voting (1): Isis

Votes Not Reflected Since The Last Votecount:
Not Voting (2): Porkens

With 11 voters, 6 votes are required to execute.

Day 2 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

[Isis]

VOTE: Hoopla

[Isis]

VOTE: Replacement for Sujimichi

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 2's Thirty-First Votecount

Galron (4): Not_Mafia, UnaBombaH, Porkens, Bellaphant
Replacement for Sujimichi (4): Galron, bob3141, Hoopla, Isis
Bellaphant (2): geraintm, notscience
bob3141 (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
Hoopla (0):
Porkens (0):
UnaBombaH (0):
Not_Mafia (0):
Isis (0):
geraintm (0):
notscience (0):

Not Voting (0):

Votes Not Reflected Since The Last Votecount:
Hoopla (1): Isis

With 11 voters, 6 votes are required to execute.

Day 2 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

[Galron]

I also like the "votes not reflected since the last votecount" category in addition to the links to the votes themselves. I must say, Fredrick's VCs have been quite good.

[Galron]

Galron managed to respond without telling me who his town reads are..and I can't work it out from his iso (the closest thing is he thinks I'm the wrong vote but also will hammer me).

VOTE: galron

E-1

Yeah I think I addressed that with Not_Mafia last night. There's Una, probably Porkens, maybe bob and maybe you. And since then Not_Mafia and notscience. So I'm not sure how you missed that in the last 10 or so pages, but I can't blame you for not reading closely because I haven't myself.

[Galron]

But with a little pressure on me I've been a bit more attentive. The engagement with Isis was good and helped me work through my thoughts on NM. Frankly, I'm not sure what to make of bob right now. I expected him to continue his interrogation per his usual, but he disappeared.

[Porkens]

VOTE: replacement

[Porkens]

VOTE: galron

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 2's Thirty-Second Votecount

Replacement for Sujimichi (4): Galron, bob3141, Hoopla, Isis
Galron (4): Not_Mafia, UnaBombaH, Bellaphant, Porkens
Bellaphant (2): geraintm, notscience
bob3141 (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
Hoopla (0):
Porkens (0):
UnaBombaH (0):
Not_Mafia (0):
Isis (0):
geraintm (0):
notscience (0):

Not Voting (0):

Votes Not Reflected Since The Last Votecount:
Replacement for Sujimichi (5): Porkens


With 11 voters, 6 votes are required to execute.

Day 2 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

[Porkens]

I feel bad

[Galron]

Oh, I meant to say galron has like 50% more posts than me but I think most people could name like...three people I'm townreading and two I'm scum reading and I just can't do that with his iso.

I scrolled back a bit in my ISO and stopped at 1246 and 1247, where I indicated I had a couple of Town reads and a couple of scum reads and then lamented that I didn't have more TRs. From then to my recent exchange with NM, I made several posts with town reads. Makes me wonder if you really looked at my ISO at all.
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[Galron]

I feel bad

If I am executed you will feel worse.

[Galron]

UNVOTE: all

Reevaluating rfs

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Day 2's Thirty-Third Votecount

Galron (4): Not_Mafia, UnaBombaH, Bellaphant, Porkens
Replacement for Sujimichi (3): bob3141, Hoopla, Isis
Bellaphant (2): geraintm, notscience
bob3141 (1): Replacement for Sujimichi
Hoopla (0):
Porkens (0):
UnaBombaH (0):
Not_Mafia (0):
Isis (0):
geraintm (0):
notscience (0):

Not Voting (1): Galron

With 11 voters, 6 votes are required to execute.

Day 2 will end without an execution in (expired on 2020-07-31 03:00:00).

[Galron]

Spoiler:

That's why I scumread you, Bob. Because you say Gera is playing differently to his last (assumedly town) game, and conclude he's scum for it rather than examining his content for this game, which has been good. The timing of it right after he accuses you of being off-meta I also dislike.




I notice you left several 3 line gaps in that post. Impressive.





Two can play at this game.

It's clear what I meant by examining there. You not reading Gera for this game but off a meta read is what I think is faked. It also comes right after Gera suspects you - and for meta reasons no less.




And again, I am not scumreading you because I think you are wrong on a read. I am scumreading you because I think your read is fabricated. I'm unsure if you're intentionally misconstruing my arguments or not.






I like Una for town based on content. The emoji references are mostly in jest. I say mostly because they do actually ping me as "fake" sometimes, but I know it's probably NAI. Perhaps it warrants some meta checking later.

If you haven't already, could you elaborate on the last one, Isis? I would think your given logic would make Klick more likely scum than town.

The wagon on Klick wasn't heavily supported by cases and reasoning. I think scum would be less likely to get involved with a wagon that didn't look good.
The trend that Klick is pointing at similarly indicates that he's getting voted by townies on their B-game rather than townies on their A-Game which makes it less likely to be a winwagon than one full of townies on their A-game. Admittedly that's still going to be a better wagon than one full of scum, but it's hard to explain the frame of reference you're using as you go I guess - all wagons are more likely to be on town than scum and my "big picture take" is a bunch of townies that don't feel confident do a weak job rebutting that presumption.

Interesting, your logic is a lot more complicated than what I had in mind. I thought Klick being called scummy but not wagoned increased his chances of being scum, since scum aren't going to start a wagon on each other (most of the time).

That's why I scumread you, Bob. Because you say Gera is playing differently to his last (assumedly town) game, and conclude he's scum for it rather than examining his content for this game, which has been good. The timing of it right after he accuses you of being off-meta I also dislike.

Read this, my Bob. How is this "having the same read on gerain two days into the game."?





You're ignoring my actual reasons and trying to spin your own ones that you can throw doubt on. I don't like it.

The "not" clearly isn't the important part there, Bob. My reasons for scumreading you have nothing to do with what you're portraying them as - with or without the not. And yes, I left it out by accident, it's funny how you try to spin that as a dastardly attempt to make you look bad, when it's very easy to disprove that.





I was joking when I said I would hammer hoopla if she claimed VT. I also wanted her to overthink her claim if she's scum.

Through Day 1, I think Replacement for Sujimichi is right, Bob either missed the point of RFS's scum read or Bob is intentionally misrepresenting the read. Regardless, I don't think these posts come from scum. That's RFS's most significant engagement Day 1. I included the post about Klick because it seems indicative of a town Isis.

[Bellaphant]

It's a load of maybes again, tho, gal: less shade, why would I bother saying I'd read you if I hadn't. It's also not clear in your interactions with people that those are your reads.

Your most interesting one is scum reading Gera: why?

[Galron]

It's a load of maybes again, tho, gal: less shade, why would I bother saying I'd read you if I hadn't. It's also not clear in your interactions with people that those are your reads.

Your most interesting one is scum reading Gera: why?

What's not clear? If you don't understand something, tell me what you don't get. I'm not going to guess. As for geraintm, I don't remember at this point. What's in my ISO? I know he kept saying I was moving votes around and I wasn't. Again, I know there's a post about that. You ready ISO. You read it, right?