Mini Normal 2153: Post-game

[Galron]

And yes, if I'm not sure, it is going to be a probably or a maybe. There's nothing wrong with that. There is not one obv town in this game, and the closest thing to obv scum is not quite obv. So you're going to get a probably or a maybe. Deal with it.

[Bellaphant]

You seem defensive.

I'm saying that your reads don't scream out from your posts or your interactions. Like, you say Gera's scum; where's the push? It's actually like Isis said - there's no pushes.

[geraintm]

Tried to read galron's post to see if i think I could see a reason to switch to them. They have been under pressure for a while.

Their posts are just...Meh. lots of "it would be bad to lynch me" some posts through aspersions on others but no real pushes to getbother wagons going.
Lots of "this player is doing things people are scum reading me for"

But...there is little overall content. I haven't seen anything explicitly scummy. But little town and has the vibe of someone who just doesn't think they are going to get lynched...

[Replacement for Sujimichi]

I think Galron has been towny. He's finally explaining his thought processes, but I think his unvote is the most town-indicative thing. Scrapping his previous reasons for scumreading me means he would have to come up with new ones if he were to revote me, which again be scrutinised by everyone - why put himself in that position if he's scum and I'm his counterwagon?




Join me on Bob, Galron. Bellaphant too, don't abandon the cause.

[Bellaphant]

Just to be clear - if the four choices are me, galron, bob or replacement - my preferences are bob/galron. Replacement is town (the above post is really town). Plus, the wagon on replacement is sketchy af.

I've asked a few times for people who are tr-ing Bob to explain why.

[Bellaphant]

VOTE: bob

Galron's response to me, while defensive, is Towny in places.

[Bellaphant]

Also, considering how little posting there has been in the last day or so (like, the last three pages 20% of the posting has come from Me, which is just weird/unusual) it makes me think scum is fine with these wagons...

[Porkens]

Oh, I meant to say galron has like 50% more posts than me but I think most people could name like...three people I'm townreading and two I'm scum reading and I just can't do that with his iso.

I scrolled back a bit in my ISO and stopped at 1246 and 1247, where I indicated I had a couple of Town reads and a couple of scum reads and then lamented that I didn't have more TRs. From then to my recent exchange with NM, I made several posts with town reads. Makes me wonder if you really looked at my ISO at all.
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Who peruses their own ISO?

[Isis]

All the scummy people want to exile bob

[notscience]

@meta people I now have a completed post Hiatus scum game- smugglers port by fakedog

Now I’ll take my town reads tia

[Isis]

Did you win

[notscience]

Fuck no I hate scum

[bob3141]

Just to be clear - if the four choices are me, galron, bob or replacement - my preferences are bob/galron. Replacement is town (the above post is really town). Plus, the wagon on replacement is sketchy af.

I've asked a few times for people who are tr-ing Bob to explain why.

Because its so obvously not scum me

You would have to be fool to push a scum read on me this game. This is just lazy town me. Im never lazy as scum. Even in mini 2114 when i got paired with lurker slots. Spoils the fun for town if scum is lazy.



How about you go about explaining why you think im scum.

[Isis]

Fuck no I hate scum

That does not compute, I hate scum but my winrate as scum is like double

[notscience]

You can go look I can usually fake tone but i just feel like I sound awkward

My motivation to play mafia is to problem solve and there’s not the problem to solve as scum lol

[bob3141]

when im scum the only reason i put effort in is to give something for town to solve

[notscience]

That’s actually a good point.

[notscience]

I’ll do some thing s when I get home later

[Bellaphant]

I don't have meta on you, and rhe people that have have given fairly different views on you (iirc.) You could link me to a scum/town game and I'll have a look. But I've explained my read - I don't see you trying to solve/I don't think you believe what you are saying. Tbf you are kinda admitting this is an issue, but branding it lazy town.

Plus I don't get the issue with rfs at all.

[bob3141]

Looking over the vote counts from day one. And the interesting thing is that hoopla lolhammered. If he is scum i simply cant see any motive for him to lolhammer popop. There was no real alternative wagon, his slot was safe for that day after his roleclaim and no strong pushes any where at the time.

I doubt that slot is scum.

[bob3141]

I don't have meta on you, and rhe people that have have given fairly different views on you (iirc.) You could link me to a scum/town game and I'll have a look. But I've explained my read - I don't see you trying to solve/I don't think you believe what you are saying. Tbf you are kinda admitting this is an issue, but branding it lazy town.

Plus I don't get the issue with rfs at all.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81789
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81161

Above two scum game. One a near win and the other a loss but had the handicap of two lurker partners posts of the game. Think proding every 4 days


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81385

Above a lazy town game. Spotted scum garmr day one

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83208

laying low town game above. roleblockers rule

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82490

middle ish town game

[bob3141]

nothing worse then after killing 1/2 neap, 2 masons and then expected last pr to be along the lines of middle to weak pr. To find that the balancers actualy though a backup mason was weaker than a full team of three masons. Got farkum so pocketed i could of even got him to lynch a cop claim.

[Isis]

This game needs a fliiiip

[notscience]

we can just clown Galron.

I’m curious what kind of ice cream gera likes.

VOTE: galron

[Galron]

Their posts are just...Meh. lots of "it would be bad to lynch me" some posts through aspersions on others but no real pushes to getbother wagons going.
Lots of "this player is doing things people are scum reading me for"

How scummy.