Mini Normal 2154 - Endgame

[Truth]

Nash has disappeared after I asked him to claim which I find even more suspicious. I think we should wait for him to come back before we execute bugspray. bugspray said they were 'pedited' in the earlier post, but they made that post 11 minutes after the last post and I doubt it took them that long. I think bugspray is lying.

[superbowl9]

?

What is this question mark meant to accomplish?

Even if this isn't what dunnstral meant, I would also like to know what is actually going on with your 413 lol.

You said a lot of things as if they don't need justification, but I think all of those do.
1. I just made a case why we should hammer bugspray, but it's definitely too early for a naked hammer request like that - maybe if it was < 1 day left that would be fine

2. Why are you telling us what to do with no explanation lol? Besides the fact that everyone is going to ignore this, I don't even think this is a good plan. What was your objective here - did you actually think everyone would see this and just drop what their plans were to follow what you said (Okay maybe truth)?

[superbowl9]

the more i think about it, the more it seems that the reason i haven't felt much affinity for the bugspray wagon is that i've seen so many townies get lynched for not being productive, coherent players. it's not really an alignment-indicative behavior on its own (scum have plenty of interest in being productive/coherent), but for some reason people on mafiascum.net just eat that shit up. everywhere i look in fact i just see half-assed justifications for voting them like what looker's decided is enough to justify a hammer.

maybe when i look closely at bugspray i'll see something stronger than that weaksauce but so far it's just a void why is it just a void

There are great reasons to policy elim - or weight negatively - poor yet NAI play.
If a player is lurking, lazy, and just not helpful to town, it can be a good idea to get rid of them earlier in the game so that they don't cause distractions and waste time and energy later on during the game.
Another separate discussion is punishing players for bad play - if poor play isn't viewed as elimable your site gets more and more poor play in its games, overall reducing town EV and the quality of games.
There are exceptions to the rule and obviously you don't want to eliminate town if possible, but to say that poor play is NAI and should thus not be weighted in an evaluation of whether to elim is just incorrect. To say that a site is worse for holding people to a higher standard of play is also not a great opinion.

[Not Known 15]

LicketyQuickety has been prodded.

Nash is being replaced.

[Not Known 15]

Public Information

Psyche is aligned with the Town.

Vote Count 1.4

bugspray(6)superbowl9,Dunnstral,Truth,WaltertheDunce10,Looker,Gypyx,

Psyche

(4)Nash,osuka,bugspray,redtea,

Not Voting(3)

LicketyQuickety

,0verki11,

Psyche,

osuka(0)

WaltertheDunce10(0)

Truth(0)

Gypyx(0)

LicketyQuickety

(0)

superbowl9(0)

Dunnstral(0)

Looker(0)

Nash(0)

redtea(0)

0verki11(0)

No Execute (0)


With 13 alive it is 7 to execute, and 7 to No Execute.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-28 02:40:00) or when an execution has been achieved.

[superbowl9]

Oh I guess you really were an IC then? My b for 449

[osuka]

hold on what the fuck

UNVOTE:

[osuka]

hold on what the fuck

UNVOTE:

[osuka]

lol fucking what

[WaltertheDunce10]

That is unexpected.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Psyche, do you have a reason to do that ?

[bugspray]

VOTE: unvote
what the fuck?

@mod can we get a double confirm on that?

[osuka]

Double confirm on what, bugspray

[Gypyx]

Ok so 2 IC's, i think it's safe to say that we have some sort of protecting role

And apart from that we have only 1 day left, so if anyone has some big objections to bugspray being lynched, now would be the time to come out

[osuka]

i'm fine with bugspray being d1 exec

intent to hammer unless someone makes a very good case on why i shouldn't do it but i WILL wait for people to comment on it before i do anything

[bugspray]

ok i hardclaim town ninja roleblocker let me quote my crumbs

[bugspray]

I guess I'm just going really fast and missing details. It's really preventing me from doing what I'm supposed to

And now my actions are preventing other people from doing the right thing D:

crumb

[LicketyQuickety]

Lickety, since you are town, when you have caught up on thread, do you have any reads?
Why have you not voted?

I probably will not vote as I do not want to dictate things too much. I feel being IC I have a lot of sway and I don't want to abuse it.

I will also probably NOT give a reads list as that would be counter intuitive in leading Town. If I make a reads list, it's possible the whole game sheeps me and I end up losing it for Town because my reads are not perfect, naturally.

[bugspray]

going really fast and missing details -> ninja
my actions are preventing other people from doing the right thing -> roleblocker
i dont mind getting exe'd because i know that's the only way for most of you to believe me

[LicketyQuickety]

You never see mafblack users complaining about fonts, JUST saying

LOL.

#iseewhatyoudidthere

[bugspray]

VOTE: truth

[bugspray]

who called psyche and osuka tvs?
speak up

[LicketyQuickety]

Okay, still not feeling great about psyche.

It looks like I have plenty of reasons to TR osuka though.

bugspay probably just made an honest mistake when they voted me. Not feeling like I want to lynch them at this point.

[bugspray]

Hot take: Psyche/Osuka are scumbuddies.
What do

you

think? T/S? S/S?

More on this soon...

[WaltertheDunce10]

I just checked the wiki and it says that ninja is only for serial killer for a normal game?