Mini 2150 - Anime SeiyuU-Pick [SHOW'S OVER!]

[mastina]

ANIME SEIYUU-PICK EPISODE 1

VOTECOUNT 1.10

catboi

(4): Donkey Kong, Panzerjager, Deimos27, MariaR

jks

(3): Shiro,

mastina(L)

, Tipsy

mastina(L)

(2): Starbuck, beeboy

Deimos27

(2): Titus, catboi

JacksonVirgo

(1): jks

Titus

(1): JacksonVirgo

Not voting (0)

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TODOKETE SETSUNA SA NI WAAAA

13 players remaining, 7 to Vote Out.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-28 20:30:00).

DAY 1 AUDITION

AUDITION CLOSED

Winner:

Deimos27

Winner receives (until end of Night 1):

(NIGHT, PASSIVE) You survive ONE Pick/Kick Out attempt.

The next Audition will start in Day 2.

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT

LESS THAN 24 HOURS REMAINING!

Deimos27 has been prodded, they have until day deadline or (expired on 2020-07-28 11:01:12) to get back in the game.

Donkey Kong still has (expired on 2020-07-27 13:26:24) to get back in the game before they are replaced. Deadline will be pushed if a replacement is actually needed.

MOD: 1: I am voting Panzer.

2: Deimos has apparently siteflaked as his last visit to the site was three days ago--in light of his slot inevitably needing to be replaced, but due to his prod timer until replacement technically being after deadline, can we have deadline halted while you search for a replacement?

Pagetopping this so the mod can see it.

[mastina]

What do you think of the Deimos claim that he is loved so he takes another vote to be lynched but it also works in lylo?

You're crossing the streams.

Deimos's auction power is that he would learn the identity and alignments of everyone in his PT.
Deimos won the auction for D1.
Therefore, Deimos learned that I am town--

Deimos literally has a cop clear on me

.

Deimos has another power, a one-shot power that is ridiculously broken in the hands of scum due to no lylo restriction on it, because if used in lylo scum would auto-win. This power I have not shared the nature of what it is because it should be the Deimos slot that decides on how to handle that role power.

My

power is that I am Loved when I am at less than two votes away from the lynch (so on D1, I'm Loved when I have four or fewer votes).
My auction power is that I am Loved when at two or fewer votes away from the lynch, basically removing the above restriction on my Loved status.

Panzer's claimed auction power is that he becomes Loved--basically a direct counterclaim to my own auction power.

And in a Panzer v Me matchup, I am literally conftown and when we have someone occupying the Deimos slot, they will confirm it.

The wagon on Deimos was taking advantage of the slot being absent and in need of replacement; the wagon on me is taking advantage of the slot being absent and in need of replacement and therefore not backing me up.

But given that the Deimos slot can't be killed N1, you're in for a fucking

rude

awakening D2 when someone does fill the Deimos slot if you lynch me because they will fucking be asking why the FUCK you lynched conftown on D1.

[jks]

You know, even if you don't think mastina is town by play and even if you don't believe the things mastina is saying, voting for mastina before Deimos27 either shows up or is replaced is just plain dumb.

[Tipsy]

why the fuck would mastina make tall this up when the deimos replacement can just come in and be like "uh what no" if it's fake?

[catboi]

You shouldn't really trust what mastina is saying. Anyway, get on me and I'll self-hammer, no other vote is happening today.

[Tipsy]

tbf i havent been able to read any of it for the last couple pages bc i'd rather slam my head against a wall.

[mastina]

Also, you can see Deimos's change in attitude pretty damn easily.
Here is a dual iso of the mod and Deimos.

Note posts like this from him before he won the auction.
He pushed me heavily.

Then compare to later where he goes out of his way to defend me.
He defends me harder here.
He defends me again here. (Notably, Deimos's later posts in regards to me contrast with his stance earlier; he originally was skeptical of the mason claim from me until he knew I was town.)
Here he defends me again.
Which he also does here.
Deimos echoed my challenge. No seriously. I have said, "show me a game where I fakeclaimed mason when I was scum--you can't because none exist". He was echoing me here because he knew I was town and thus knew that, as town, I wouldn't be lying about my own meta and thus that when I said no scumgames exist where I fakeclaim mason, none actually exist.
Here Deimos continues the defense of me and outright says he doesn't scumread me--what happened to his pregame scumtell of me, hmm? The answer is a fucking cop result happened.
Deimos continues to be on my side.
He sided with me in the mastina-BM fight as well.
Here he explicitly notes that I am a townread.

Deimos started with a hard-scumread on me, but that read was reversed with seemingly no in-game justification for it--because his reasoning came from outside of the game, from his fucking cop clear on me.

[Tipsy]

can we just do a shitty lurker consensus lynch or something? like, fuck it, how about this?

VOTE: donkey kong

[mastina]

You shouldn't really trust what mastina is saying.

Why?

Why would I lie about something that another slot can come in and just outright say is false?

It's not a fucking lie and yes that slot WILL come in and confirm it. When they're actually in the damn game.

[jks]

@catboi,

Is mastina a scum read now? Or just a "better mastina than other viable options" read?

Also, why is Mikul a strong town read for you? Is it still just this?

ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ

Mikul

's paranoia and overall distrust of the claims is pretty clearly coming from a town mindset, I think. I doubt most scum would take a mason claim as their primary push target on day 1.

[catboi]

A survival vote + what she's saying mostly comes across as an over-the-top lie + defense of deimos is an enormous obstacle.

That line + Mikul burning their role early is VERY likely to come from a town player. An inexperienced player can make a push on town for malicious reasons but the way they explained their distrust of it from offsite experience felt genuine.

[catboi]

can we just do a shitty lurker consensus lynch or something? like, fuck it, how about this?

VOTE: donkey kong

It's not happening and people are going to keep pushing me for the same crappy reasons tomorrow. Let me go and take a critical eye to the people who were so narrowly focused on such a terrible reason to scumread someone to the neglect of everything else.

[mastina]

To paraphrase our PT, on July 9th at a little after 3 pm, Deimos went, "yoyo what up gang".
On Friday July 10th at a little after 8 pm, I went, "So is this a masonry?

I'm gonna treat it as a masonry.

On that note I'm a worthless role since I'm Loved whose Loved is disabled when I am at two or fewer votes from a lynch (so when at L-2 or L-1 I don't have the Loved ability, making my ability literally worthless)." (It should be noted that,

at the time

, I had completely missed the section about the auction power due to it being below the roles section so I didn't even realize I

had

an auction power until Deimos specifically asked me about it and I rechecked my role PM to notice it, as noted below.)

On Saturday shortly after 1:30 am, Deimos asked me why I am treating it like a masonry, wanting to know what I was basing that assumption off of, asking me why I wasn't worried that it could be just a 'hood and me giving my role to scum.

Deimos then quoted my post in the masonry, then went, ">Questions if this is a masonry
>Assumes it is a masonry
>Reveals role while complaining about its worthlessness

You must know how unnatural and LAMIST this progression appears".

He then went, "if that's your role I assume there is some other role in the game that interacts with it, but I don't know what it would be".

And then he went, "Pls confirm in your next post if you do consider your role mostly useless or if there is an element to it that you consider significant and have conveniently omitted."

And shortly thereafter (by this time being around 2:30 am having spent an hour typing the series of posts above), he posted, in the PT, the Captain Hook capturing Tinkerbell image, the exact same one he would open the game with. Except instead of just the image, he had above it text: "Call me Captain Hook because I am about to catch this title fairy".

Saturday, some time after 3:30 pm, I answered his "why treat this as a masonry" question with, "Well, I'm town, my role is absolutely worthless outside of having access to this topic, so I assume my real power role is access to this topic." In that same post, responding to the same post's question of worrying if I was claiming to scum, I went, "Well, are you scum? I do not think you are, and because I'm town, that'd make this a masonry. "

I then quoted his 'please confirm' post and responded, "My role is literally, 'You are Loved. Your role does not work when you are two votes or fewer away from being lynched.' Loved is a role where you require one more vote to be lynched than the default, so because my Loved status is disabled when I am at L-2, L-1, or L-0, it means my role is a glorified VT, outside of having access to this PT.

Thus, my assumption that this PT is my real power."

That same Saturday, after 4:30 pm, Deimos posted, "the reason I asked you the follow-up question is 'cause I thought the only world where town opens with such willing ignorance of this being a neighborhood--which it is--and roleclaims, is if they're fakeclaiming/making an incomplete claim and are reaction testing to see if I play along. I even added a negative connotation to the option of admitting a fakeclaim by including the word 'conveniently', to try and sway scum to run with this full claim nonsense. So now I think you're even scummier."

Deimos then quoted my 'well are you scum?' post and went, "This is such a terrible answer. You had no reason to think I am town at the time you roleclaimed. And this is a neighborhood, not a masonry. The difference is in whether the mod has confirmed our alignments to each other."

He then summarized that one of my powers was the PT, the other was useless, asking me why not claim the audition power while I was at it.

Sunday, almost exactly a day later (at near 4:30 pm, but slightly before), I quoted Deimos's post explaining his follow-through question, responding, "Well, you are not EXACTLY wrong on that: I basically pioneered The Mason Gambit, claiming masons as neighbors, and I have good reasons to run it.

When I claim mason as a neighbor, I usually don't expect the mason claim to hold indefinitely. But I claim it for a combination of reasons.
1: If my assumption of this being a masonry is correct, that it contains no scum, it can bait the scum into wasting their nightkills on a slot they would normally never waste a nightkill on.
2: If my assumption of this being a masonry is wrong, that it contains scum, I can bait the scum into revealing themselves. If I continue to live days after claiming mason, and/or my masonbuddy just goes along with the claim blindly, it's usually a sign that they're scum who let me claim mason with them as a matter of convenience because if anyone would take the fall from it, it'd be me, not them. A win-win scenario for scum.
3: If the above doesn't happen, then the odds are fairly good that the masonbuddy is actually town.
4: I am known for being somewhat audacious as town, Refuging In Audacity, and claiming masons inthread allows me to reaction-test the rest of the town.

So you're not exactly wrong. Treating this masonry as a masonry IS a reaction test. It's just also something that I happen to believe to be true: I DO think this topic is a masonry, for multiple reasons. As I said, my role is literally worthless outside of the neighborhood, so it makes sense if the neighborhood is the true power of my role. Thus, a masonry.

And beyond that, you DIDN'T react as scum would. I've never seen scum, in reaction to me treating a neighborhood as a masonry, become suspicious, become paranoid, be confused, be startled, have no clue what's going on in my head...but that reaction is something that is perfectly natural for a town player to have."

I then quoted Deimos asking about my audition bonus, and explained, "I completely missed that part of my PM.
I did not see there WAS an audition bonus. I was going to check my role PM, 'cause I was sure there was not any and was going to say, '...I do not have any?', but as it turns out, I am a moron and missed it before; it IS there, it is just that it is after the two profile parts.

My audition bonus is to keep my role enabled when at L-2, L-1, or L-0. Meaning I need to have that audition bonus to have my role actually be a role, it's otherwise completely worthless outside of this topic."

On Monday, around 9 am, Deimos bluntly told me that even if I townread him he had no townread on me and thus wouldn't go along with the mason claim.
Near 4 pm, he asked me if I have ever been a neighbor as scum.

He then quoted me saying my role was literally worthless, and went into detail about, as far as he could tell, "this is the extent of the reasoning you had for outright claiming to me, which I continue to think very weak.

But I am fairly surprised you did not notice your audition bonus, and suspect that to be a slight towntell. And this meta of never having fakeclaimed mason as scum is pretty compelling."

Then on Tuesday, at close to 10:30 am, Deimos, now with his role result, posted in the PT "Well, I guess you're town then", owing to having the result telling him as much.
He then made a followthrough post where he said as much, that his audition power may not be particularly impressive compared to some, but

did

give him an investigation of my slot.

I could continue to paraphrase the content past this point if you insist, but this is the timeline of the relevant sections, which show his behind-the-scenes progression along with where he got the result and when.

[catboi]

ε=ε=((( ^-x-^)ﾉ Not reading a word of that post, cheers

[mastina]

I could continue to paraphrase the content past this point if you insist, but this is the timeline of the relevant sections, which show his behind-the-scenes progression along with where he got the result and when.

Actually I think I'll do exactly that to prove that Deimos

did

have an abrupt change in the way he was treating me, to show that I'm not fucking lying about the result Deimos claimed, to demonstrate more from Deimos showing that I'm not bullshitting a conversation from scrap (not that I'm capable of doing so mind you butstill).

I'm mostly going to skip my posts in there, but I'll say that I did answer his question on if I've ever been a neighbor as scum before with, "I think, but not often, memory's hazy due to delirium from fever, will try to respond when more coherent", to which Deimos responded that it didn't matter anymore, because he knows I am town. (This is still around the 10:30 mark on Tuesday by the way.)

His next post was claiming his role power, not auction power, his actual role power, to me.

On Wednesday July 15th, at about the 7 am mark, Deimos said, "Hopefully, scum do not believe your mason claim, now that we are in fact masons (well, assuming you trust that I am town still)." He also asked if I had any reads I wanted to elaborate on privately.

On Thursday (that is, July 16th), shortly before the 9 am mark, Deimos explained, that, due to him being immune to the nightkill N1, he saw no harm in hiding that he knows I am town. He said that scum hopefully wouldn't nightkill me due to this level of suspicion and that nobody would claim me as a partner.

After I told him that I might have private thoughts on Sujimichi, on Friday at around 1:30 he noted there's lots of room for unique playstyles in mafia and that Sujimichi appears to be quite an enigma. He then said, "I'm starting on an arduous process of breadcrumbing that you are conftown in case I somehow die tomorrow night--I could get double-targetted, it is a thing--or before I out that info, anyway. I will give you the key when I am done so you have a conftown button."

But Deimos flaked before he finished it so he didn't give me that key. His last post in the PT, on Friday July 17th shortly after 2 pm was clarifying the nature of his auction power, giving the details of it which I have already shared.

[mastina]

ε=ε=((( ^-x-^)ﾉ Not reading a word of that post, cheers

Then you cannot hold to the narrative of the over-the-top lie because if you read the paraphrase of the PT you'll have the fucking proof that I'm not lying.

[jks]

It explains a lot of the motivations behind how Deimos27 entered the game and approached mastina and her claim before and after the audition. (As in, the play-by-play matches up to what happened in the game thread, with the exception of 776 which I don't really get.)

To be honest, I don't actually care about it much, except insofar as it slightly strengthened the town read I already had on Deimos27.

[jks]

For what it's worth, before mastina even claimed anything, I already figured she was in a neighbourhood and that her neighbourhood partner was Deimos27 and I thought she legitimately had reason to strongly town-read Deimos27 even if they weren't really masons - at least a strong enough reason in her own mind that she was convinced. The audition bonus thing explains the part I was missing here.

That plays a bit into why I think both mastina and Deimos27 are probably town, though independent of that I also think their individual play is more likely to come from town than scum.

[JacksonVirgo]

Pages 21-30

I just woke up so this may be a worse jumble of mess than my other two.

500 - After DK's replacing in they have been severely lackluster, TSE was somewhat the same but slightly better because they had at least produced some content as far as I remember.
503 - I think that this is a town indicative post from BM, although I am aware that I have not been in a scum!BM game before but this just screams town to me - This shall change later down the line if I see anything scummy but that would have to be a somewhat big thing.
504 - I am not sure whether or not this post seems like an SvS or a TvT but I feel it's one of those two.
505 - That's a very hilarious sound town to scum ratio.
515 - Feckin hilarious. I like you DK and I hope you're Town.
534 - Tipsy is Town, I am almost certain.
566 - Mikul is legit having the same reads as me regarding BM and Mastina in a sense.
569 - The fated replacement is here.
572 - Unsure how I lean on this post from Shiro.
582 - I am lowkey thinking this is just plain town, maybe with different scum-reads than myself but generally town in how they're reading the other Towns.
595 - Townie post from titus.
601 - DK'spost has zero content once again and it's dropping my null read on them hard.
623 - BM's claim is somewhat weird regarding the audition prize but nothing too far-fetched so it's probably legit regardless of alignment. The latter though with the 1-shot disabler needs more information in how it works because a scum could easily fake that by having their buddy just not perform an action, or even themself.
626 - BM here pinging me as if they're using fear tactics to keep themselves alive. BM should claim all options they had for the D1 audition.
634 - BM is tearing my reads left and right. Has BM used fear tactics before as town?
659 - DK with an empty read of mastina being town.
703 - It seems everyone reciprocates the read on Mikul but nobody is really explaining that read (I know its my slot but it's concerning).
714 - The progression there is hilarious.
719 - IT ME!

{ Deimos27, Starbuck, catboi, Tipsy, Battle Mage }

{ Panther and Fox, Panzerjager, mastina }

{ Donkey Kong, Shiro }

{ TheThirteenthJT }

{ Donkey Kong }

I am not sure where to fit mastina at the moment, but I think they're town so up they go.

[JacksonVirgo]

Who did jks replace? They're probably town based on their read on my slot considering everyone else was townreading this slot pretty seriously.

[jks]

I replaced Battle Mage.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: catboi

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

VOTE: Deimos

Join me catboi. I'd like to know I am not alone on this one. That's the problem. The only good wagon I feel is Demois. The rest I'd just be meh whatever.

oh wait jackson replaced mikul. eh.

VOTE: jks

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Deimos

Doesn't seem likely to succeed but eh

This is fucked

[JacksonVirgo]

I replaced Battle Mage.

Oh, yeah that makes so much sense. you're lock-town I have almost zero doubt.

[JacksonVirgo]

Pages 21-30

I just woke up so this may be a worse jumble of mess than my other two.

500 - After DK's replacing in they have been severely lackluster, TSE was somewhat the same but slightly better because they had at least produced some content as far as I remember.
503 - I think that this is a town indicative post from BM, although I am aware that I have not been in a scum!BM game before but this just screams town to me - This shall change later down the line if I see anything scummy but that would have to be a somewhat big thing.
504 - I am not sure whether or not this post seems like an SvS or a TvT but I feel it's one of those two.
505 - That's a very hilarious sound town to scum ratio.
515 - Feckin hilarious. I like you DK and I hope you're Town.
534 - Tipsy is Town, I am almost certain.
566 - Mikul is legit having the same reads as me regarding BM and Mastina in a sense.
569 - The fated replacement is here.
572 - Unsure how I lean on this post from Shiro.
582 - I am lowkey thinking this is just plain town, maybe with different scum-reads than myself but generally town in how they're reading the other Towns.
595 - Townie post from titus.
601 - DK'spost has zero content once again and it's dropping my null read on them hard.
623 - BM's claim is somewhat weird regarding the audition prize but nothing too far-fetched so it's probably legit regardless of alignment. The latter though with the 1-shot disabler needs more information in how it works because a scum could easily fake that by having their buddy just not perform an action, or even themself.
626 - BM here pinging me as if they're using fear tactics to keep themselves alive. BM should claim all options they had for the D1 audition.
634 - BM is tearing my reads left and right. Has BM used fear tactics before as town?
659 - DK with an empty read of mastina being town.
703 - It seems everyone reciprocates the read on Mikul but nobody is really explaining that read (I know its my slot but it's concerning).
714 - The progression there is hilarious.
719 - IT ME!

{ Deimos27, Starbuck, catboi, Tipsy, Battle Mage }

{ Panther and Fox, Panzerjager, mastina }

{ Donkey Kong, Shiro }

{ TheThirteenthJT }

{ Donkey Kong }

I am not sure where to fit mastina at the moment, but I think they're town so up they go.

I forgot the titus slot in that read-list. They'd probably be null or a scum-lean

[Tipsy]

u put donkey kong in twice.