Newbie 2019 | Game Over!

[shellyc]

I look forward to your will then

[Redados]

Oh I won’t be making a case, just kibitzing from the sidelines. I’m pretty much dead already so I’m just leaving a will.

Well this is going to be a boring four to five days...

[shellyc]

Hey. Porkens, you accept death and you are going to state your last words. I'm going to cast this vote. But please don't hammer, I'd like to hear your will.

You're dead. Here's the E-1 vote. If you flip town, we are going after Italiano.

VOTE: Porkens

[Porkens]

Ok, I think if italiano isn’t the partner than you are.

[shellyc]

You disproved me as partner yesterday, hmmmm.

[shellyc]

A sudden change of heart? state your evidence.

[shellyc]

Sure you will. If I am eliminated and I prove to be town what will be your plan then? Make a case on Mini or TBone or Shelly again. What are you gonna keep making wrong cases until it’s Lylo?

I feel like Italiano is right here. Whatever you try to frame me as, I'm townie. And I'll try my best to prove you wrong. because you're

wrong

.

[Porkens]

Sure you will. If I am eliminated and I prove to be town what will be your plan then? Make a case on Mini or TBone or Shelly again. What are you gonna keep making wrong cases until it’s Lylo?

I feel like Italiano is right here. Whatever you try to frame me as, I'm townie. And I'll try my best to prove you wrong. because you're

wrong

.

Good! You will have to, because from my next standing of the gamestate, u will be target #1 if this should go to a four way.
But like I said, it won’t, because italiano is mafia.

[Porkens]

My understanding*

[Porkens]

*3way

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 2.2

Porkens(3)

~ ItalianoVD(19), GeniusGamer(7), shellyc(48)

ItalianoVD(1)

~ Porkens(24)


Not Voting (3): MiniMegabyte(12), T-Bone(15), Redados(34)

With 7 alive it takes 4 to eliminate.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-08-03 18:27:08)

[ItalianoVD]

My suspicion is based on his interactions with flipped scum. If we had flipped ShellyC instead, I probably wouldn't think IDV was particularly scummy.

I'd be willing to look at that game if you want to link it.

[ItalianoVD]

So in the event Porkens is townie, I’d like to give my thoughts; since I would be the next elimination.

With that being said I just can’t bring myself to believe it to be TBone or Mini. If Shellyc appealed to emotion as scum she did a good job and deserves to win. If either TBone or Mini is scum then they also deserve to win because I just don’t see it. We already know what Genius is. Redados would be the only one left. This is only my own analysis though and could all be completely wrong and in that case I’m lost. But that would be the direction if I wasn’t Porkens or myself.

@Porkens: We have to prepare as if we are both wrong. A scenario where we are both town

Also could someone else look at this and read it several times and tell me what you feel about it?

My suspicion is based on his interactions with flipped scum. If we had flipped ShellyC instead, I probably wouldn't think IDV was particularly scummy.

I'd be willing to look at that game if you want to link it.

After you guys tell me what you think about it I will tell you what I think and you can let me know if I’m off or onto something.

[Porkens]

Italiano, I like it. Let’s make a death pact and then solve the game from the grave.

[Porkens]

*in advance, of course

[ItalianoVD]

Oh wow. I see that Porkens is now claiming Shellyc is the last scum now. If you aren’t scum you are not helping the town with this back and forth. I was only guessing with my last point in 799, but it appears that is your plan.

[Porkens]

My plan to what? Win after I’m dead?

[ItalianoVD]

Italiano, I like it. Let’s make a death pact and then solve the game from the grave.

Okay let’s do it. What are you thinking?

[ItalianoVD]

My plan to what? Win after I’m dead?

No, your plan to just keep making wrong cases.

[shellyc]

Sure you will. If I am eliminated and I prove to be town what will be your plan then? Make a case on Mini or TBone or Shelly again. What are you gonna keep making wrong cases until it’s Lylo?

I feel like Italiano is right here. Whatever you try to frame me as, I'm townie. And I'll try my best to prove you wrong. because you're

wrong

.

Good! You will have to, because from my next standing of the gamestate, u will be target #1 if this should go to a four way.
But like I said, it won’t, because italiano is mafia.

In my opinion, I feel like Redados is more scummy with that 4 way battle.

[shellyc]

Unless T-Bone was insane bussing. Because in terms of NKA T-Bone would have made that correct kill.

[shellyc]

If Shellyc appealed to emotion as scum she did a good job and deserves to win.

I stated what I felt when I was at E-1. Because I fear a mislim. I want to avoid a mislim at all costs, especially my own.
Someone declared intent to hammer, I didn't want mafia to get the advantage day 1.
It was all genuine emotion. Not "appeal to emotion", as you put it. I was afraid and that was the defense for me to avoid that miselimination.

[ItalianoVD]

If Shellyc appealed to emotion as scum she did a good job and deserves to win.

I stated what I felt when I was at E-1. Because I fear a mislim. I want to avoid a mislim at all costs, especially my own.
Someone declared intent to hammer, I didn't want mafia to get the advantage day 1.
It was all genuine emotion. Not "appeal to emotion", as you put it. I was afraid and that was the defense for me to avoid that miselimination.

Yes. That was my exact point. I felt genuine with your response to being at L1, that’s why I unvoted you and at this point I am willing to put you in the non elimination group.

[Porkens]

Italiano, I like it. Let’s make a death pact and then solve the game from the grave.

Okay let’s do it. What are you thinking?

You only need to worry about this if you are town. That being said, my idea is for we of the death pact to talk about each of the 4 players who will be eligible for the 3 way. Now for this to work, we both have to just ignore the fact that we scum read each other and put ourselves mentally into a world where we are both dead, and both flipped town.

I've given my reads of the 4, what are yours?

My plan to what? Win after I’m dead?

No, your plan to just keep making wrong cases.

Again, you really don't need to stress about this if you are town.

[Porkens]

*unless you are town