Mini Normal 2154 - Endgame

[Looker]

Your sarcasm is appreciated, osuka; just go ahead and vote me so we can get this 1v1 out of the way

[Looker]

I'm trying to make sure I can take Gypyx out of the running for being non-town before I move forward.

[osuka]

Godfather's aren't normal, but are Investigatio-Immune SK's?

why on earth would we have an invest-immune sk with a cop here

[osuka]

Your sarcasm is appreciated, osuka; just go ahead and vote me so we can get this 1v1 out of the way

okay
VOTE: looker

[Looker]

to be completely clear: if i think someone is scum, i'll say it. and right now, i think you're scum.
VOTE: psyche

superbowl vs

bugs

, osuka vs

psyche

- we're getting into the stand-offs kinda early

[osuka]

so your case on me is literally only that psyche flipped green

doesn't this scream wifom

[Gypyx]

@looker, there cannot be any cop altering role in normals, and SK's aren't allowed in minis so i'm conftown yes

also wtf suka, throwing doubt at an IC, you always do that?

[osuka]

oh dude he's an ic too? really?

[osuka]

wait yeah no looker's not ic

who are you talking about

[Gypyx]

i talked about the worst

[Gypyx]

Anyways here's the PoE of remaining scum

0verki11,osuka,Dunnstral,Truth,Looker,superbowl9,chkflip,redtea,


I agree with the 4 scum theory, maybe there is a traitor? would be good to try to look for potential signals then

Reading truth will be a mess, i'd still rather forget about reading them, unless you bring out a compelling case

@chkflip

i still need to make my re-read of superbowl, why am i being so lazy

@the worst

could you explain how Overkill is scum? and your whole PoE in general?

i'm ok with leaving Chk alone to let him produce some content

--and from the rest of the playerlist (osuka,Dunnstral,Looker,redtea) i'm mostly looking at looker (haha laugh pls) and suka in terms of scum

what is everyone's opinion on Truth currently?

[osuka]

what is everyone's opinion on Truth currently?

Truth was town but I’ve come to the conclusion that for the time being, when trying to read that slot, one should abandon all reason

[osuka]

i talked about the worst

I feel like if you take 5 minutes to skim my iso and maybe some other games, you’ll find that I can do subtle but it’s typically not worth the effort, so I’m much more inclined to directly point out something as being “dogshit”, “a dumpster fire”, or some variation thereof than to passive-aggressively imply I don’t like it

please stop selectively ignoring my posts

[Gypyx]

- i'm interested in everyone's opinion, yeah i've seen that post

- and i forgot about post 619, sorry about that

[the worst]

uhh I'm not gonna dissect my PoE yet no
do you like, not think 0ver is scum? can you talk to me about why not?

don't think osuka is trying to shade me. lol. it wouldn't stick, I'm too awesome for it to work.

[the worst]

Godfather's aren't normal, but are Investigatio-Immune SK's?

No btw


@osuka I think looker is like, townier than you in this 1v1 can you please focus energy on finding scums outside of it

[chkflip]

Reading truth will be a mess, i'd still rather forget about reading them, unless you bring out a compelling case @chkflip

No case, just a p1 read. I'll get back to reading now.

[the worst]

you know what.
who wants a present?

[Gypyx]

it's hard to judge Over's posting, but now that i'm re-reading it, there is actually some stuff that's bothering me, like post 225 feels pretty TMI-ish for instance

and yeah, i like presentes, can i have a present

[Gypyx]

Reading truth will be a mess, i'd still rather forget about reading them, unless you bring out a compelling case @chkflip

No case, just a p1 read. I'll get back to reading now.

p1 read? what does that mean?

[the worst]

you already got one
What's your read on 0v's slot

[chkflip]

Page 1. Though it might've actually been Page 2 doubled down by the weird shit that happened right before EoD where he asked me to claim out of nowhere that helped the vibe I got. Gonna have to finish the 20 pages before I staple that in though.

[chkflip]

you already got one
What's your read on 0v's slot

I'll focus on that slot. Anywhere else I should keep a keen eye?

[Gypyx]

you already got one
What's your read on 0v's slot

scumlean, not too strong, but considering the small size of his ISO, it's hard to be sure of anything

[the worst]

hi all
osuka is town
truth can be town for now I guess?

uhhhh my wim is gone
I only posted once
Bugspray can be wolf or town why am I like this
Gyp can be scum why not
All of this probably contridicts what I said earlier mbmb

ok looking at what I said earlier I came to the conclusion that bugspray is more wolfy than town
but I dont see Gyp and Bugspray being wolf friends

I hate myself
bugspray is wolf
I read unread then post
then read old posts and repost.

wrt 0v like, its posts read stiff but there's some unconscious quirks in there that make me feel like it's coming from a scum mindset. it's like low-key actually reasonably good at Mafia btw

- its townreads lack nuance; this is kinda obvious like it didn't post all that much. the reads it did post appeared mostly focused on people who looked good/had good recent posts. this isn't damning in itself but at rand I agree with like, 2? of its townreads and the timing of them isn't a good look. I also feel like this comes from a mindset where it needs to be seen to have reads more than a mindset where it is trying to find town.

- its entire game related iso is burying bugspray. bugs was the consensus scumread and was basically walking to the elim platform most of the day. 0v's influence wasn't needed to finish off the elim and I feel like there's several cases of pretty alarming negligence wrt letting that wagon through. (An aside but Dunnstral's posts on D1 are like. literally scum.)

- the alarming disconnect is a little easier to explain. while bugs is the main wagon, it pops in and shades them / pre-shades the townslip yet holds its vote for the entire day and doesn't reevaluate any reads. this is problematic because it doesn't give me any impression that 0v actually wants to be associated with the miselim but it's comfortable letting it go through.

now let's say you're 0verki11 and you're town and you scumread bugs and shit right? you're logging in and seeing the town correctly wagon your only scumread. this is a positive experience. there isn't any triumph in 0v's tone and it actually frequently cites low wim.

why does it feel the need to increase wim if it's totally getting its way?

like the whole iso is just fake stuff motivated by optics > sorting