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those quotes were accidental, but illustrative

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also if anyone is reading that along with 0v's iso and just flatly disagrees with my take please speak up because I am wrong ~3 times a year and it hasn't happened yet.

[WaltertheDunce10]

No that is an excellent take,
I am not exactly happy with my own d1 play.

[the worst]

one could even say
I'm not wrong
I'm just an asshole

dw this D1 was a bit of a dud. we just need to torture people into playing the game.

osuka/looker has like 0-1 scum in it and they both kinda just need to focus on other things so I can sort it out

people picking fights with ICs D1 isn't scum indicative it's more like, mindset indicative. identifying ICs as miselimable and then backing off or getting angrey when they're revealed is a scum indicator. picking big vocal fights with ICs D1 then moving onto other shit when they're revealed is town indicative. I don't have a strong opinion on which of those osuka did => I need osuka to do AI things.

looker tends to towntell accidentally if town so don't feel as rushed about sorting looker

[WaltertheDunce10]

I don't think we should quicklynch as that would benefit scum.
pedit, I think I will look through redtea rn.

[the worst]

that's a good take. this game has a bunch of null content, we should kick it into gear and get some alignment indicators.

that would be great re redtea. I don't really have a read on them. they've just kinda slowly drifted down my read list.

[Dunnstral]

what is everyone's opinion on Truth currently?

I think town

[the worst]

what's your opinion on Gypyx & osuka

[Dunnstral]

I lean town on Gypyx and idk for osuka

[osuka]

one could even say
I'm not wrong
I'm just an asshole

dw this D1 was a bit of a dud. we just need to torture people into playing the game.

osuka/looker has like 0-1 scum in it and they both kinda just need to focus on other things so I can sort it out

people picking fights with ICs D1 isn't scum indicative it's more like, mindset indicative. identifying ICs as miselimable and then backing off or getting angrey when they're revealed is a scum indicator. picking big vocal fights with ICs D1 then moving onto other shit when they're revealed is town indicative. I don't have a strong opinion on which of those osuka did => I need osuka to do AI things.

looker tends to towntell accidentally if town so don't feel as rushed about sorting looker

i hope you're not

asking

me to do AI things as I'm sure you realize how moronic of a request that is

[Dunnstral]

I agree with the 4 scum theory,

no.

There's 3 ic roles because there's no town investigative role

[Dunnstral]

as for bugspray... it's their fault for having a meta where they fake claim ridiculous roles as mafia, and then true claiming their ridiculous role and expecting not to die for it

[WaltertheDunce10]

I read through redtea's iso and his big scum read is psyche who was nked.
Seems to think I am scum at an early point in rvs.
Thinks truth is gimmicky.
Attacks bugspray in post 171, interesting.
Then thinks osuka is scum, interesting.
This is all from the iso ooks town but retrospect has some pretty incorrect reads.

[Dunnstral]

Godfather's aren't normal, but are Investigatio-Immune SK's?

SK's themselves have been made non-normal in 13 player or below sized normal games

[WaltertheDunce10]

It looks town at first but gives out few reads and scumreads two town.
Possible scum for me
Redtea that is.

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as for bugspray... it's their fault for having a meta where they fake claim ridiculous roles as mafia, and then true claiming their ridiculous role and expecting not to die for it

ok writing this off
they were the lead wagon for like all of d1
what part of their play before the claim was scum indicative in the slightest?

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you're very accountable for that miselim, dunnstral.

off a mod iso i had you pinned as like a peak scum suspect because of how negligently you voteparked bugspray. reading over d1, i'm doubling down on that impression. i don't think you were interested in evaluating their alignment, so i'm expecting something pretty damning here.

[the worst]

It looks town at first but gives out few reads and scumreads two town.
Possible scum for me
Redtea that is.

this is basically where i got to as well.
:u

their content is pretty much fine tonally & they do enough work that they're obviously playing to their wincon. no idea what that wincon is. they've been pushing a bunch of incorrect/kinda off stuff, so gth i'd say scum.

i like, dislike their reads just a little... not sure if it's just because we read the game in different ways tho..... i think i just need to see some trajectory/update from redtea now that they've been proven very wrong.

[Gypyx]

as for bugspray... it's their fault for having a meta where they fake claim ridiculous roles as mafia, and then true claiming their ridiculous role and expecting not to die for it

I'm off to sleep, just wanna point out that this post feels like scum who has a guilty consciouness and tries to overexplain his past actions, in this situation i don't think a town mindest would feel the need to justify his actions

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Truth

VOTE: readtea

VOTE: truth

anyway VOTE: lickety

superbol9 posts add nothing original and just ask really easy questions
VOTE: superbowl9

take for ecample 98there's no followup
i'd expect a town who actually wanted another player's reads to really follow up

what the fuck is 166 "for now"? he never even had shade on dunn before and is acting like a scumread is now townish

hes just asking people low ahnging fruit questions

VOTE: psyche I agree he's fucking weird in a scum way

VOTE: looker thats pretty convincing tbh and also i just personally dislike looker

but i will try to contribute to getting scum lynched
VOTE: psyche
going to repark my vote here for now and then actually fuck off until i have a somewhat comprehensible readlist

VOTE: osuka

that puts me at e-1 for a green flip
VOTE: gypyx

Truth, problem is that even if they're actually scum, a claim serves no prupose, so please, let him go without claim and go do other stuff

The purpose would be that he can not as mafia change his claim later and has to dedicate himself to a role now which would be bad for him. Glitch in my first game acted similarly to him and he was talking about how he was going to claim 'even night loyal doctor'.

you quote a post that genders me correctly and then proceed to misgender me
VOTE: truth

@mod I dayvig truth

A lot of his early votes I disagreed with/were on ics

[the worst]

just gonna try and open your brain a little on this.

i see you disagreed pretty enthusiastically about truth, did you make an effort to parse why bugspray clearly consistently and heavily scumread truth?

why are you townreading redtea and/or superbowl9? if you heavily disagreed with bugs' read again, where was the effort to talk about your coming to opposing conclusions?

missing my IC reveal is like, a casually very town indicative level of neglect. why are you considering a single vote on an IC scum indicative?
i guess this bleeds into the argument of like.
bugspray has voted half the damn plist. they were crushingly anti-charismatic. how is this scum trying to stay alive?
who the hell would they be aligned with when the entire list was dunking on them?

i know like, for a fact that you're a very capable town player. and i'm anxious about you making the decision to read bugs so superficially.


psyche/osuka/gypyx votechain i also didn't vibe with. but you parked bugs for the entirety of d1 so i'm kinda looking for your thoughts about their earlier voting. like even by the time they made bad votes i thought they looked like wrong-but-obvious town.

[Dunnstral]

missing my IC reveal is like, a casually very town indicative level of neglect. why are you considering a single vote on an IC scum indicative?

I said he was faking it for town points

I don't townread redtea

His superbowl push was weak

His play this game looks like his scum game here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83367

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I said he was faking it for town points

and just... never reconsidered that anything in bugspray's iso might be earnest this game?

I don't townread redtea

ok which of bugs' early reads struck you as disagreeable in a scummy way then

His superbowl push was weak

please give me a comparably strong stance / read on superbowl.

His play this game looks like his scum game here: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83367

besides the fact it's bugspray and they're generally kinda cute/fluffy and whimsical i don't see the similarities at all. can you please explain what struck you as similar in a scum indicative way?

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Vote Count 2.1

Not Voting(9)

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,0verki11,Dunnstral,Truth,Gypyx,

WaltertheDunce10

,superbowl9,chkflip,redtea,

osuka(1)Looker,

Looker(1)osuka,

Truth(0)

Gypyx(0)

WaltertheDunce10

(0)

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LicketyQuickety

(0)

superbowl9(0)

Dunnstral(0)

chkflip

Nash

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redtea(0)

0verki11(0)

No Execute (0)

With 11 alive it is 6 to execute, and 6 to No Execute.

Day 2 begins and ends in (expired on 2020-08-06 04:38:00) or when an execution has been achieved.

0verki11 is still being replaced.

[Truth]

I am quite suspicious of chkflip because Psyche said he wanted to execute him and then he died. Some people are saying this means chkflip is town as this play would be too obvious if chkflip was mafia. But I think because people will think that, it is actually the perfect play to make for him without getting any suspicion.

VOTE: chkflip