Mini Theme 2155: SIN: This Impurity must be Cleansed!

[androgybee]

ill also say wrt to jackel, i have no reason to townread the slot but their readlist doesnt look particularly bad for any reason to me and im pretty worried they could be a misexecution. so i'd rather we aim at a slot i actually find scummy (NDMath).

[Joey_]

Ill do math then and come back

[Bell]

townish: Norwe - Joey
Weak townish: Banana ~ D&D
Null:
S_S, Starbuck, Porkens, Catboi, RedTea. Androbee.
Weak LS: Math

[Bell]

Jack is in the null pile.

[androgybee]

S_S if you're still here: last time we played (it was Trust Fall, i was on my alt Tipsy) i scumread you correctly on an IIoA basis. but like, sample size of 1 and all that. now that Trust Fall is over, would you say that was a fair read or do think I just got lucky there?

~Nahdia

[Joey_]

Can you do me your math LS case

[Bell]

He seems super serious and wooden like he can't move away from a town script.

[Bell]

Math are you still here?
Wanna chat?

[Something_Smart]

S_S if you're still here: last time we played (it was Trust Fall, i was on my alt Tipsy) i scumread you correctly on an IIoA basis. but like, sample size of 1 and all that. now that Trust Fall is over, would you say that was a fair read or do think I just got lucky there?

~Nahdia

right I forgot that game happened lol

I'm pretty IIoA as either alignment. I will have to go back and look at exactly what you said about me, one moment

[catboi]

V(=^･ω･^=)v I'll vote where we can get traction among jackel/NDMath/Starbuck. Porkens is not a

bad

vote but has more the policy feel of yeeting a useless player. Bell is acting strange but not necessarily inherently scummy and would like to believe as mafia they come up with a better justification for the redtea vote than "nullread". With 2 days left we should be pushing someone for a claim.

[redtea]

This is my fault for thinking I can be coherent without quoting.
I'm referring to

Talk to me Norwee, Banana. From what I recall a stump is somebody who can't do anything, can they be mafia or only town? You've been acting like it from a tone post, but I saw that you don't like tone reads so instead I'll ask you if you could tell me what you think of RedTea, Beeboy hydra, and dumb and dumber if you don't mind?

Post 5: Talking to 2 universals trs ish implying she trs them (no waves)
Ask about mechanics (no waves here)
Then ask the tr'd people for reads, she is even showing that she is being apologetic/passive with ''if you don't mind''.

I mean, c'mon, hardly any waves

What I was saying in #554 is that immediately @'ing the main trs is a very inexperienced-maf tactic.
And... looking at Bell's join date. It is recent. I don't know if he has much prior experience.

But I was assuming experience when I made the post. It was weird to me that he'd do such a brazenly maf-looking thing; since it is such, one then might assume

he'd be aware of that

, and is making either a gutsy move as maf or intends to challenge the status quo, but will start out doing so by requesting fresh input.
My first instinct is to go with the former.

Basically: maf using such an inexperienced maf tactic in order to lead others to think no maf-aligned player would seriously do that. That's what my post was trying to say.

[Bell]

V(=^･ω･^=)v I'll vote where we can get traction among jackel/NDMath/Starbuck. Porkens is not a

bad

vote but has more the policy feel of yeeting a useless player. Bell is acting strange but not necessarily inherently scummy and would like to believe as mafia they come up with a better justification for the redtea vote than "nullread". With 2 days left we should be pushing someone for a claim.

Why are you okay with any of those 3?

[Joey_]

This is my fault for thinking I can be coherent without quoting.
I'm referring to

Talk to me Norwee, Banana. From what I recall a stump is somebody who can't do anything, can they be mafia or only town? You've been acting like it from a tone post, but I saw that you don't like tone reads so instead I'll ask you if you could tell me what you think of RedTea, Beeboy hydra, and dumb and dumber if you don't mind?

Post 5: Talking to 2 universals trs ish implying she trs them (no waves)
Ask about mechanics (no waves here)
Then ask the tr'd people for reads, she is even showing that she is being apologetic/passive with ''if you don't mind''.

I mean, c'mon, hardly any waves

What I was saying in #554 is that immediately @'ing the main trs is a very inexperienced-maf tactic.
And... looking at Bell's join date. It is recent. I don't know if he has much prior experience.

But I was assuming experience when I made the post. It was weird to me that he'd do such a brazenly maf-looking thing; since it is such, one then might assume

he'd be aware of that

, and is making either a gutsy move as maf or intends to challenge the status quo, but will start out doing so by requesting fresh input.
My first instinct is to go with the former.

Basically: maf using such an inexperienced maf tactic in order to lead others to think no maf-aligned player would seriously do that. That's what my post was trying to say.

He seems super serious and wooden like he can't move away from a town script.

I agree but that being your strongest scumread is odd

[Joey_]

^612 didn't mean to quote redtea there

@Red tea: You assumed a wifom play, we totally misunderstood each-others

[Something_Smart]

ok so nahdia it seems that your big issue was that I did a lot of "analysis" and not a lot of reads, but when I questioned you on why making reads as scum was harder than making analysis, you said that you thought we had different definitions of analysis. And given that IIoA implies a lack of analysis, it kinda sounds like you're the one using it incorrectly...?

But no matter. As I defined it, it wasn't scummy for me to do a lot of analysis and not a lot of reads; it was just a coincidence I believe. That said it is entirely possible that you did catch on to something valid there, but I don't think it could have been my lack of reads.

[Bell]

My reasons for scum or town reading people tend to be a sentence long at best. In Math's case it's a weak self-identification read.

[Bell]

Right for the wrong reasons is one of my favorite d'oh's in mafia.

[Joey_]

Nat, i read math

I think he has bad lines and some good one. It could go both ways because he has so few posts. I don't really think he's that good of an associative flip tho, but that never stopped me roping people before so If you can make me see it, ill vote

[redtea]

@pedit: I mean, Tea how am I supposed to pressure you without the vote.
@Joey, I'm null reading him.

I just barely came off of being a wagon target you silly man.

Also I'm gonna fuck off for now but I thank Porkens for trying to explain rand to me unfortunately my dumb ass still doesn't understand

[Joey_]

VOTE: porkens

Gamestate tells me this is scum.
For that weak of a slot and having barely anyone talk about them is a gamestate tell. Normally, scums will push this kind of weak town players but will gladly not draw attention to them if scum

I know I have been voting everywhere but people has been scumtelling hard then towntelling almost everytime so shrugs

[Joey_]

@ the rand thingy with SS?

He meant it as better than the randomly generated distribution odds of alignement.

Like mafia is what, 2/7 and town 5/7 in most games? So to be town, you need to be the odds aka your gameplay makes you more likely than 5/7 that you are town or 2/7 that you are scum

[Bell]

hmm. Is there a way to isolate certain words and follow the game that way?

For example can I look up the word 'pork' and compare it to the number of times Jackal and Math have been mentioned?

[Joey_]

You can ISO them both then ctr+F the words you want

To iso someone, you click [ISO] on any of their post, right to the post number #XXX in red

[Dumb and Dumber]

So much talk. C'mon guys, let's put someone at L-1.

-Dumbass

[Bell]

Wait so you mean that all the people in the elimination pool barely mentioned Porkens or