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[the worst]

I'm back!!

Welcome to everyone who replaced and happy birthday Nepenthes!

Big post incoming

Are you going to explain why you voted me? I'm convinced you had to wait for redtea to get replaced so you'd have support in your scum PT.

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• I feel Truth is a distraction, but whatever.
  
• I don't understand the worst being combative. Questioning someone's confidence isn't shading (it's laughable how this queer culture slang has entered the mainstream media all of a sudden), especially if there were an actual reason for his confidence. I have to assume that he disagrees with my odds regarding osuka and superbowl. I also think it's iffy that he lied about his cop clear, but whatever, he's an IC. (I'm assuming those can't be faked and I can't actually rely on those, unlike the worst's cop clear)
  
• Are we really just going to accept osuka saying "lol this is a scumpost" as justification? He and superbowl literally have no reason to vote me, and yet you people are accepting it.
  
• I've used Titus's reasoning for voting me before, lol, so I really can't say anything
  
• I have to assume that the worst is performing a shitty reaction test

This entire post is fucking wild
I've been queer culture a lot longer than I've been a mafia player lol

also have no idea why you think my play here is inadequate but stroppy posting like to this w/o any actual analysis or associatives is exactly what I expect from someone who I'm correctly PoEing

[the worst]

It's literally a word taken from queer culture. What was once stigmatized is now celebrated, and I think that's funny. Just like the removal of the word lynch. This is an interesting shift to observe. lol, "reign it in"

ya looker read more amused/curious than offensive, "reign it in" probably too soon but maybe this convo is more interesting postgame. idk.

[the worst]

Looker

Looker response to this is probably interesting

[the worst]

I dont think dunn is scum here ftr
Calling scum in Titus/osuka/Truth/maybe chk

oh you're town aren't you

[the worst]

superbowls case looks good faith to me i just think hes wrong

My biggest issue is that it's kinda, lukewarm-convincingness-level and follows a vote. it struck me as unlikely s/s but probably not in isolation a great tell on soup?

[Nepenthes]

I dont consider the case to be evidence of town superbowl by itself but look at his reads

[the worst]

Spoiler alert: you're not conf!town, just prob!town. Chop chop.

Ooh this again. You sure you read because this feels like deja vu.

I don't see the purpose in discussing someone's read with them unless I'm looking for something (spew, clarity) or I flat out disagree with it (people loltown reading Truth). Otherwise, what's the purpose? You're town reading Looker. Neat! That doesn't mean anything more than I know you're not going to sneaky E-1 them or make an intent to hammer unless that's our only option to lynch.

Meanwhile, in Shit-That-Actually-Matters-ville, I've been trying to get people to see that Truth is newb!scumming all over the Goddamn place. I don't really think I'm the guy you need to be talking about your Looker read with, no?

if truth is actually town I think chk is necessarily town..lol
otherwise I'll stay open minded if I'm alive :{

[the worst]

ok I'm warming up soupbowl
VOTE: truth
on the fence about whether soup gives me that shakeup/pep talk thing if he's scum with truth. if it is green I don't think chk replaces in with zero clout and powerdrives a miselim which is equivocal to picking a puppy.

I think probably nep/soup have read me better than chk/others here and I am indeed casting a wide net to see what we catch. my lines of enquiry are varying levels of sincerity. i think my time in this game is likely limited so w/e.

shift both of those null reads above Dunn, uncertain where I want osuka. not clearing looker but looker is more sortable in this game than most of the rest of my PoE so can be evaluated later.

[Nepenthes]

Idk what you mean by reading you but yeah lets go

[the worst]

Nep is enough of a breath of fresh air that I'm pretty sure her alignment will win the game atp. it's a mutual thing, obviously she's happy to be here, and I suspect that those kinds of engagements will invigorate whichever faction she's reacting with positively.

I think a younger duck would have just called her town for fluidity of tone etc. but idk her so this is the old cynical duck take

[the worst]

Idk what you mean by reading you but yeah lets go

you feel cognisant enough of what I'm doing this game to be sceptical.

[the worst]

when I think about Dunnstral posts I think he's town
when I read Dunnstral posts I think he's scum
(;﹏;)

[Nepenthes]

Nep is enough of a breath of fresh air that I'm pretty sure her alignment will win the game atp. it's a mutual thing, obviously she's happy to be here, and I suspect that those kinds of engagements will invigorate whichever faction she's reacting with positively.

Thanks tw

[Nepenthes]

I don't think Truth is scum though

He's just.. loopy

*checks list*

..Looker?

Poe off people I don't want to vote

I think I wrote Titus off too quickly in my head... it's entirely possible that she is scum

I think these players will tell a lot abt dunns alignment so im ok to wait

[the worst]

generally agree with that tbqh his conscious should become more clear with flips etc. I'm just wary that we need the endgame ⅓ of this plist to revisit him in as much detail as possible

[the worst]

conscience?
words?
I need coffee

[Nepenthes]

If anything its a good thing that Dunn can be solved with flips of players already in a poe
Chk is the one I have no idea about but its only day 2

[superbowl9]

soupbowl

Oh man not again ToT

[the worst]

unless his POA is this glorious lolbus I think he's kinda towny. he's been quite prickly to interact with & resistant enough to my offers to be pocketed that I don't think he's approaching me maliciously at least. the you/chk interaction kinda makes me wondering if that's just default chk or maybe he's wary of being caught pocketing tho

[the worst]

I thought "warming up soupbowl" was a nice turn of phrase, sorry. :C
I'll be nice.

[superbowl9]

Dw you need soup to make super

[Looker]

superbowls case looks good faith to me i just think hes wrong

What does "good faith" mean?

Most of what he dismissed in his own case as not particularly ai i agree is not paricularly ai
Looker being paranoid and directionless isnt scummy, i dont think theyre behaving like caught scum
And I think im right about lookers angle that bugspray was distracting the no content issue with pronoun talk being an angle town takes more than scum

But idk superbowls case doesnt make me think hes scum
Therefore good faith

• My direction is that osuka/superbowl are scum.
  
• Does the "good faith" refer to you or superbowl? What's the difference between "good faith" and "I don't want to vote this player"?

I'm not in the business of repeating myself. I've given my opinion on Looker. You apparently read the entire thread in the span of time you've been here so surely you didn't miss it.

I know you had him as nullish scummish before
You havent responded either way to my comments or townread on looker

Not sure why you have a chip on your shoulder wrt interacting w me

Would chkflip being willing to misflip me on a later day keep me from being NK'd tonight? Or misflipped today in the place of Truth? I'm assuming scum are handcuffed to NKing ICs.

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• I feel superbowl and Nepenthes collaborated in the scum PT because they're both calling me paranoid when I haven't been such.
  • Asking someone to provide justification for a vote isn't paranoia.
  • This whole game is just 'telling town what to do' so I don't see why my Post 413 would be so weird. I was going V/LA and wanted to post my thoughts, as opposed to superbowl who went V/LA and voted baselessly (or "nakedly").
    • It was also very obvious that I suspected bugspray, hence the call for hammer, and Psyche/Osuka, hence the call for sorting. The overlooked players I mentioned after that, superbowl also mentioned (with the exception of redtea for some reason), so I don't see what would "confuse" him about that.
• I want to know post-game if 800 was a way to throw me off. Scum have daychat, so there'd be no reason for Nepenthes to coach superbowl in-thread.
  
• The decision to policy-flip Truth without thinking about/analyzing it is bizarre to me.
  
• Who are the "uncomfortable/uncomfortable-adjacent" people the worst thinks i have associatives with? I wish I were an IC.
  
• The worst also didn't say exactly what he thought was "wild" about my Post 791. It's just subjective fervor that you can't do anything with. (Also, I think he thinks I'm accusing him of not being queer...? I don't know, I don't care. I was referring to the American zeitgeist.)

I still think Truth is a distraction, but I'll be happily wrong if he flips scum.

[Looker]

Do people assume that I'm frowning when I post in this game that I play to relax...? I can guarantee you that if I'm playing this game, I'm not angry.

[chkflip]

Would chkflip being willing to misflip me on a later day keep me from being NK'd tonight? Or misflipped today in the place of Truth? I'm assuming scum are handcuffed to NKing ICs.

Yeah, it couldn't possibly be that I'm just, Idk, having just as hard a time as four other players are having with sifting through your posts to find some semblance of town thought or processing.

Just gonna point out that "I'm not being paranoid" followed by "Nep and superbowl are conspiring against me! They're using the same words to discredit me!" is fucking meme level hilarity.

Is it possible we have two scum on the ropes right now?

This is just really fucking weird to me.

[chkflip]

Wait



https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

hhhhHHHHHHH

Dunnstral you were alive a lot longer than me in this one (also I replaced out bc personal lives are fun).

I'm crazy y/n