Open 788 - Crossfire - Game Over

[Ruby Red]

Votecount 1.8

Target	Wagon
spicer1209 (L-2)	innocentvillager, Chemical Elements, Marksman, Casey, hellbooks, Isis
Nono (L-3)	innocentvillager, Chemical Elements, Hiraki, WeyounsLastClone, Elements
WeyounsLastClone (L-3)	innocentvillager, Marksman, Nono, Hayasaka, Casey
Almost50 (L-3)	innocentvillager, Casey, WeyounsLastClone, Isis, Chemical Elements
innocentvillager (L-4)	Marksman, Lavender, Chemical Elements, Nono
Chemical Elements (L-4)	innocentvillager, hellbooks, Hayasaka, Isis
hellbooks (L-5)	Hiraki, Elements, Isis
Isis (L-5)	Marksman, Chemical Elements, Elements
Elements (L-5)	Casey, Hiraki, Marksman
Lavender (L-6)	innocentvillager, Chemical Elements
Hiraki (L-6)	Marksman, Casey
Hayasaka (L-6)	innocentvillager, hellbooks
Casey (L-7)	innocentvillager
Marksman (L-7)	Hiraki
Not Voting (3)	spicer1209, Hayasaka, Almost50

With 14 alive, it's 8 to dunk on someone.
(expired on 2020-08-16 14:58:59) until the dead walk the Earth.

Almost50 replaces ileileile.

[WeyounsLastClone]

unvote Almost50

To give the chance to read up and post some thoughts

[Casey]

Welcome to the land of false equivalencies, population Hiraki.

Well, if that's correct, then you should have no problem rallying a wagon right?

[Casey]

@Wey: Thank you for explaining like a real human being would.

Re: IV, the way it was done meant nothing to me.

@Wey: "Casey - Starting the game late, but brings the heat and some decent posts with interesting analysis"

Could you expound on that? For having me lean town and calling my posts "decent" and "interesting" (empty words) you don't seem to have subscribed to any beliefs held within them. It reads like you're saying that to get me off your tail.

Time to make good on your words: what do you consider to be spot-on accurate in my posts? You're welcome to say nothing and admit you've no idea what you're talking about. I won't fault you for that.

It does seem you have a knack for mispresenting people's words (please don't start to talk about houses...). Decent/interesting is not the same as 'spot-on'.
You interact (and confront), refer to specific posts and actions, and actively indicate your town and scum-reads, and that's what I appreciated (maybe I should have elaborated in my post and not just called it 'decent', but it was getting quite late here in Netherlands and wanted to make sure I got my list out before I went to bed;). That I like your posting style and confrontations, and get a town-vibe from that does not mean I fully agree with your findings or your reads. Interesting was referencing that you seem to be quite direct, and call out things directly (in post #160 and some of your interactions with Hiraki).

One question I still had based on below

@hellbrooks: Nothing innocentvillager did stood out at all in my initial read. Had to go back through the ISO to get a read.

The first thing Innocentvillager did was vote for everyone, did that not stand out to you? Or saw it as a null-tell, or townie move?

[hellbooks]

(I like the fact they don't feel the need to give something to satisfy us)

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
yeaaa i see where you're coming from

[Casey]

That's what happens when there are only two loud people around at one time.

Wey, should I be worried your top guess for scum is someone with 1 post?

tbf it was a bad post ; )

not rly sure what to make of casey having a strong entrance w thoughts on everyone in the game and then kind of dropping all of it to get sucked into this weird incomprehensible 1v1 with hiraki

[hellbooks]

casey your response, then quote schema is really throwing me off but i like it. lol

[Casey]

Welcome Almost50! No unvote until you've earned it.

@hellbooks (not Brooks!! Gasp!): When I quote it gives me a huge mess so instead of messing with the mess and potentially ruining everything, it's easier for me to just type up top. I'll try to avoid quoting as often.

[Isis]

Chemical Elements' play style doesn't lead me to believe they (he?she?)are the type of player to force reads as scum when it's hard or feel afraid to highlight they've got nothing.
VOTE: Casey
Her posts are fun to read but I get somewhat of a vibe most of them are meant to look good.after a spat with Hiraki she voted him seemingly on principle rather than playing in a way that's likely to convince others to vote him even though she's so confident her vote is staying there for the rest of the game, supposedly.

[Casey]

@Isis: "after a spat with Hiraki she voted him seemingly on principle"

Excuse me, I voted Hiraki in #157, before any "spat" occurred. What are you talking about? And seemingly on principle? What principle is that?

[Isis]

Locked your vote's movement, tomato tomato

By "seemingly on principle" I mean you're voting him in a way that doesn't actually seem like its because you believe he will flip scum

[Nono]

Sorry for all the posts. The reply window is tiny. How do I do vote tags and make the #s link to posts?

Never apologise we were placed on this e arth to Post
btw it's kind of weird you didn't have an inital opinion of innocent villager in your first readslist post (putting him in the who category)
feel like he was a big and clearly polarizing presence
then at the end you kind of hedge it anyway so hmmm idk. i mean i'm an expert hedger too dw

@Wey: "Casey - Starting the game late, but brings the heat and some decent posts with interesting analysis"

Could you expound on that? For having me lean town and calling my posts "decent" and "interesting" (empty words) you don't seem to have subscribed to any beliefs held within them. It reads like you're saying that to get me off your tail.

Time to make good on your words: what do you consider to be spot-on accurate in my posts? You're welcome to say nothing and admit you've no idea what you're talking about. I won't fault you for that.

It does seem you have a knack for mispresenting people's words (please don't start to talk about houses...). Decent/interesting is not the same as 'spot-on'.
You interact (and confront), refer to specific posts and actions, and actively indicate your town and scum-reads, and that's what I appreciated (maybe I should have elaborated in my post and not just called it 'decent', but it was getting quite late here in Netherlands and wanted to make sure I got my list out before I went to bed;). That I like your posting style and confrontations, and get a town-vibe from that does not mean I fully agree with your findings or your reads. Interesting was referencing that you seem to be quite direct, and call out things directly (in post #160 and some of your interactions with Hiraki).

One question I still had based on below

@hellbrooks: Nothing innocentvillager did stood out at all in my initial read. Had to go back through the ISO to get a read.

The first thing Innocentvillager did was vote for everyone, did that not stand out to you? Or saw it as a null-tell, or townie move?

Thinking?Nono

[Nono]

hello????

[Marksman]

What's up, Nono

[Elements]

VOTE: Elements

Would like some thoughts from you. Comment on the big 3 (villager,Nono,Wey,) if you need direction.

Villager - seems fun. doing stuff but not overly worried about anything
Nono - no
Wey - a lot of relatively long posts given this game is just throwing votes around maybe TMI
VOTE: wey

[Elements]

What's up, Nono

the sky

[Hiraki]

Wow, haven't seen anyone butthurt over being wrong in a game in awhile. Casey even avoids when other people call her out lol.

[innocentvillager]

Town: spicer

UNVOTE: Spicer

[Nono]

Do I have to spell it out?
*sigh*
VOTE: clone

p-edit: eh.

[innocentvillager]

FoS: Clone

[Almost50]

Elements, Isis, Lav, Hiraki

Also Innocent.. although I don't exactly remember if I played with you or replaced you before, but I do remember the name and avi.

And hello to everyone else (who obviously don't know me unless they're an alt)

As always, give me a few to get all caught up.

[innocentvillager]

Yep Open 734 paris hullo

[Almost50]

I think it seems a bit unfair if we all confirm vt

I know this is going to be look like fluff (or someone is going to call it forced..), but ANYWAY; I want to know what you meant here (if it was a joke, just say so).

P-edit: Oh. OK. I'll check that one in a bit.

[Hiraki]

Do I have to spell it out?
*sigh*
VOTE: clone

p-edit: eh.

Please? You're already voting Clone. I can't even take your posts very seriously anymore.

[Hiraki]

Just to really emphasize the above, your posts seem like prod dodges.