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[Alduskkel]

[Raya36]

Official Vote Count 1.01

Echeveria "Cubic Frost"

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Elimination

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate someone.

hellbooks

(1): GeorgeBailey

George Bailey

(4): NoPowerOverMe, Alduskkel, Snowblaze, hellbooks

NoPowerOverMe

(2): Iconeum, Testarossa

Billy Pilgrim

(1): JamSV,

Iconeum

(1): VP Baltar

JamSV

(1): Billy Pilgrim

Andresvmb

(1): Datisi

Not Voting

(2): Andresvmb, jankofan

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-08-13 23:15:00).

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[Datisi]

what the fuck

like what the actual fuck

[Datisi]

okay, that's funny.

[Alduskkel]

It wasn't literal. It's page 1. You are awful tightly wound though.

Ironically I think NPOW is the one acting tightly wound.

Example:

Wow the two votes on me have a whole 9 words of "reasoning".

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

i think GB is town, how about you?

ok i'll just leave my vote on you till you come to your senses then

Do you know something about GB that I don't or is this just a guess?

Ah, fair enough. I find scum always asks small pedantic questions to seem townie.

So it just pinged me as such.

this post was made from a town perspective, and isn't easily faked
it reads very authentic and i'm concluding GB is likely town with an offchance this is actually faked (but unlikely)

Could you elaborate on this?

pedit: did you not believe me when I said you were my source lol

[Datisi]

no, i just didn't think you would post a literal private chat screenshot to prove it

[Alduskkel]

oh oops I thought it was okay since it didn't really reveal anything too personal

[Datisi]

lol dw about it

[Alduskkel]

VOTE: jankofan

datisi you had a nice vote on NPOM, why'd you change it?

(also I just realized I've been reading/writing NPOM as NPOW oops)

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Icon

NPOM seems like he's pretty inexperienced. No way scum comes out and actually goes SRS MODE in RVS. The real goof here is Icon trying to make that seem scummy.

(In fact, NPOM was a pretty easy misyeet D1 in a recent game I played. He was similarly overeager to scum hunt, and the scum team just sat back and let that be a fail. Only took slight prodding to make it an all town wagon. NPOM was town vig that game.)

...wait, hang on. You're saying that he was miseliminated by an all-town wagon, with scum just sitting back and letting it happen, in a previous game.

And you also think Iconeum is scum for scumreading him, when you've just established that town have scumread him previously.

Am I missing something here, or does that not make much sense? Why do you think Iconeum's scumread on NPOM is scum-motivated?

good post

[Datisi]

datisi you had a nice vote on NPOM, why'd you change it?

(1) i realized the icon/npom discussion wasn't going anywhere and that my vote there isn't helping me sort him and (2) i saw that jankofan was online but wasn't posting anything so i wanted to give a warm welcome

[Alduskkel]

Iconeum tring GB seems p towny but i actually think his entrance was scummy

why's it scummy?

one two seven three

VOTE: andresvmb

is this vote serious?

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: Iconeum

[Datisi]

one two seven three
VOTE: andresvmb

is this vote serious?

yep, i'm not a fan of 126. like, "i agree with everything baltar's said about icon", doesn't vote icon. (i see there's a vote there now) "i am townleaning baltar, but he's probably good so i might be wrong", it just feels non-committial? and devoid of any Original Thought?

[Datisi]

hi andres, what made you vote ico *now*?

[Andresvmb]

Okay I did not screw that up.

I am voting here for a few reasons. I felt Iconeum was overly eager to cast a Scum net over NPOM, and I would describe the certainty that George Bailey is Town as a factor as well. I have no real certainty on whether Iconeum, NPOM or George Bailey are Town or Scum. I am not going to pretend that I have a solid answer here. But the whole Town slipping thing and arguing so strongly that there was a Town mindset just seems off to me.

[Andresvmb]

hi andres, what made you vote ico *now*?

No particular reason for why now. I fell asleep while re-reading on my phone and I woke up and decided I would put a vote down.

[Datisi]

do you have feels on any other player (other than baltar i guess)?

[Andresvmb]

do you have feels on any other player (other than baltar i guess)?

Yeah I have a few leans but the only decent one is VPB Town. I actually had you down as Town since you also made the point that Iconeum's certainty on GB was suspicious in #63, but I am not the biggest fan of your vote on me for obvious reasons. I am way past the point that I SR players that vote me, so I was fine just letting that be, and still overall think you're alright.

I felt JamSV's entrance was Towny (sense of humor is always good), and I am getting negative vibes out of Snowblaze. They were attacking VP Baltar's logic on #105 and I simply do not agree at all. Nothing wrong with disagreeing of course, but it seemed like a lot of shade in an attempt at defend Iconeum, and against a player that just seems Town to me.

[Andresvmb]

I have not narrowed down how I feel about Testarossa or NPOM to be totally honest. Testarossa could be Town for all I know, but I was not feeling the logic in #112. I did not see the Town mindset in Iconeum so aggressively stating that GB was Town and had Townslipped, which Iconeum used as a reason to suspect NPOM (as confirmed by #50). But I mean there seems like there's a real attempt by Testarossa at figuring out what's going on.

[Datisi]

hate to break it to you, but while ico's certainty about george is somewhat suspicious, i don't really think he's scum for it. have you missed me saying i think ico's town in 93? do you think my vote on you makes me more likely to be scum?

by the way, please link posts using the post tags

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[Andresvmb]

hate to break it to you, but while ico's certainty about george is somewhat suspicious, i don't really think he's scum for it. have you missed me saying i think ico's town in 93? do you think my vote on you makes me more likely to be scum?

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[post]126[/post]

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Well I do not have any back story with any of you, so I would not know whether Ico's certainty makes him Scum or not (I know more than a few players that are actually extremely good at spotting small things and making very accurate reads, particularly when they have played with each other many times over). I am just explaining the rationale behind some of my views and my vote.

Voting me does not say anything to me about your alignment in a vacuum. But I am new to this place, so before putting a vote on me, your average player would have maybe asked me a few questions or tried to figure out where I was coming from. If you think I have a Scum mindset after engaging with me, then that's whatever.

[Datisi]

i'm not a master at reading ico. i was just pointing out that your reasoning for thinking i'm town (me making a point about ico's certainty) might not be true (i don't think he's scum right now) - so i'm wondering how that knowledge affects your read on me.

snippets like

"I am way past the point that I SR players that vote me, so I was fine just letting that be, and still overall think you're alright."

and

"But I am new to this place, so before putting a vote on me, your average player would have maybe asked me a few questions or tried to figure out where I was coming from."

make me think you're vaguely not a fan of my vote. i'm hoping to get more concrete opinions out of you, if that makes sense.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I am leaning towards voting Inoc. My initial gut is that she was trying to get a read on me but the argument has been made that the townslip argument was off which is something that I agree with somewhat. None of the other players that have posted recently strike me as scummy. I would like to hear more from Inoc and GB though.

[Andresvmb]

i'm not a master at reading ico. i was just pointing out that your reasoning for thinking i'm town (me making a point about ico's certainty) might not be true (i don't think he's scum right now) - so i'm wondering how that knowledge affects your read on me.

snippets like

"I am way past the point that I SR players that vote me, so I was fine just letting that be, and still overall think you're alright."

and

"But I am new to this place, so before putting a vote on me, your average player would have maybe asked me a few questions or tried to figure out where I was coming from."

make me think you're vaguely not a fan of my vote. i'm hoping to get more concrete opinions out of you, if that makes sense.

No of course. Scum make good points all the time - they have all of the information after all. My overall view is just not much changed. I am trusting my original instinct and will update as things evolve.

And I can't say that I feel particularly strongly about your vote on me. It's early, and it's not easy to make accurate assessments on other players yet.

[Raya36]

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