Open 788 - Crossfire - Game Over

[Marksman]

Idk, I feel like I'm trying to convince myself you're scum, but you're just my best lead. I just think we really need to dunk someone soon because this deadline is real unforgiving and we can't really afford to wait much longer for the first one. People should start consolidating.

[Almost50]

Hold the freak up/ Casey hadn't posted either, but I could have sworn someone said the found her townie!! I SHOULD NEVER EVEN GLIMPSE ON NEW POSTS when I am catching up.

[Almost50]

Wey said he found them suspicious. I'm not saying they're suspicious, I'm voting to pressure them to post. Clear difference.

What bad news did I try and deflect?

First; pressure votes never work if you outright say they're for pressure. Second; this is no ordinary game, and -as long as someone else is alead- nobody actually feels "pressured" (unless they're close enough to get eliminated once the leading wagon does hit the threshold). To elaborate: When you votes someone in an ordinary game it means your vote is OFF everyone else. That's one less vote towards the threshold. Here, you could be voting EVERYONE, and it makes no difference (it works as if we all became hated).

[Marksman]

Pressure votes do work in this game actually. Votes aren't reset after a dunk. So, the person knows that vote is there to stay until they can do something that gets it removed.

[Almost50]

Don't you think your efforts would be better suited to saying something rather than playing back-up mod all of the time? I'm not trying to discourage it - just noting that you've now done it 3 times on one page with the mod also providing a vote count above. I also still don't know what

you

think after all of it.

I have an idea on how to figure some things out, but it only works if innocentvillager flips mafia. If he doesn't flip mafia, I am at a loss.

Check the votes on IV and show me one good vote (one with what looks like good reasoning).

[innocentvillager]

Your lack of trying to explain or question me on the difference is what I don't like

That WAS my explanation lol, sorry if my sarcasm doesn't come across well lol (I mean I didn't get your sarcasm either that one time).

I'm just going to be honest and say that at this point lack of activity is a scumtell because we are stalling this to death

And lack of activity is separate from having like less than 3 posts, I mean the people who are just barely keeping up with posting or posted a lot near the beginning and haven't done much recently (assuming no wagon on them)

I just want to flip someone, probably WLC.

[Marksman]

townie entrance post and zero activity with a huge wagon on him on page 13. Is that almost ever a scum slot

I just realized you were talking about spicer here. How on earth is that a towny entrance post?

[Almost50]

Are you a Hiraki fanboy? (I won't judge)

He's an "Hiraqi from Baghdad"

[innocentvillager]

townie entrance post and zero activity with a huge wagon on him on page 13. Is that almost ever a scum slot

I just realized you were talking about spicer here. How on earth is that a towny entrance post?

Wait that was the spicer unvote

Nono is gut

can't say I didn't clarify this for you.

It's a great entrance post that scum is unlikely to make, just sit there for the rest of the game without any additional posts and let their inevitable wagon run up

Inactivity is a scumtell but not like... this kind of inactivity

[innocentvillager]

and not a soul other than me is defending the spicer wagon which has been sitting at L-2.

[innocentvillager]

like what scum comes in late and goes "HURR DURR I'M LATE WHO SHOULD I WAGON GUYS" and just ghosts the game without anything else

[Marksman]

Too scummy to be scum is what you're saying basically. I disagree, and can see scum coming in and see a wagon on them building and not be asked to post/effort their way out of it.
Also, who's gonna defend Spicer when there's literally nothing to defend?

[innocentvillager]

Too scummy to be scum

Too scummy to be scum IS A TOWNTELL if there is no scum motivation for the action.

[Marksman]

Like, demotivation and replacing out is scum-indicative. Sure, if you expect scum to play optimally, you can say "oh, scum doesn't do that because it's suicide" but sometimes they just do.

I get your reasoning though, and don't think you're scummy for believing that.

[innocentvillager]

Also, who's gonna defend Spicer when there's literally nothing to defend?

their buddies would probably at least divert the leading wagon elsewhere or call spicer LHF

[innocentvillager]

I'm not saying he can't possibly be scum but what towntell isn't based off of probability?

Replacing out after a few posts and getting hammered could be scum indicative because that's a stressful situation and demotivating. This is not what happened to spicer.

[Marksman]

Mm, still disagree that what's spicer's done is town-indicative, but I can see why you'd believe it.

I think inno arguing down a lhf dunk counterwagon with reasoning he seems to believe is a little towny?

I want to dunk one of these 3 today:
Wey
Elem
Inno

In that order of preference.

[Almost50]

THEY DIDN'T POST ANYTHING, WHAT ELSE COULD HE BE SUSPICIOUS OF?

*Sigh* The guys already hinted "something", and I

immediately

got the hint. I trust all three have posted by now (although one appears to have posted only once??) so the problem should be solved. I'd get sus of someone who was avoiding this game but posting elsewhere. I'd be sus of someone who appeared to be online and then went off line without posting in the game. You actually CAN suspect people without them posting AT ALL in some cases, yes.

[Nono]

I think it seems a bit unfair if we all confirm vt

I know this is going to be look like fluff (or someone is going to call it forced..), but ANYWAY; I want to know what you meant here (if it was a joke, just say so).

P-edit: Oh. OK. I'll check that one in a bit.

didn’t see green pm, that’s scummy
UNVOTE:
VOTE: almost
VOTE: clone

[Nono]

“very seriously anymore” xD *prodge* VOTE: clone

putting all my money on town!mark to avenge me, otherwise I’m gonna look silly ggwp ez win

[Chemical Elements]

Why Chim Elom? I like them being active while admitting they have no new thoughts or reads.

@Chelem - What's your mafia experience like?

First time I played mafia was during a school activity. After that, I've been playing online for the past few years, but not consistently. I would play for several months and then not.

[Nono]

I wanna hammer.

[Hiraki]

Kind of want Nono to be modkilled. I haven't seen such a blatant lack of trying from post 1. Phone posting due to power going byebye.

@A50 - you're missing the point above. Wey already said in a prior post that he "suspected" them due to not posting. The question isn't about suspicion at that point, it's about reasoning. I don't really care about the argument of whether the suspicion is valid - that's semantics to me. What isn't semantics is that he is clearly calling them out for not posting.

[Almost50]

Ok so I thinking joining this game when I am hard pressed to form scum reads was likely a bad idea.

VOTE: Chemical Elements
VOTE: WeyounsLastClone

I like these 2 votes in particular, I don't have any strong town reads.
Chemical Elements is playing like a wolf would I don't like the enterance voting 6 people, wolves tend to try and form wolf reads more aggressively because they think they have to, Weyouns town read Chemical for a very bad and null enterance, essentially 2 posts at time.

Here she is (and judging by how many females are actually in this game I regret the decision to join in as A50 when I could have had a hell of a time playing under AP)

Note: AP is an alt of mine and is short for AUSTIN POWERS (it's in my sig). Can you imagine how awesome that would have been? Absolutely shagadelic baby, yeah!

[Casey]

I'm sure Hiraki is plotting this right now.

I felt that your second part is just how the rules work. The game could technically end with one dunk if things were planned carefully enough.

This is wrong. I'm absolutely convinced Hiraki will flip scum.

Locked your vote's movement, tomato tomato

By "seemingly on principle" I mean you're voting him in a way that doesn't actually seem like its because you believe he will flip scum

This is Hiraki literally describing his own behavior and attributing it to me.

Wow, haven't seen anyone butthurt over being wrong in a game in awhile. Casey even avoids when other people call her out lol.

Attempting multi-quoting.