Open 788 - Crossfire - Game Over

[Almost50]

Or the Scots

[Almost50]

Or the ones with big moles attached to their faces.

[Almost50]

Shall I go on?

[Almost50]

You really don't want this genie put of the bottle

[Almost50]

*Sigh* I FINALLY managed to regain control over the keyboard. SORRY. (Monkey here)

[Ruby Red]

Votecount 1.9

Target	Wagon
WeyounsLastClone (L-2)	innocentvillager, Marksman, Hayasaka, Casey, Elements, Nono
Nono (L-3)	Chemical Elements, Hiraki, WeyounsLastClone, Elements, Almost50
Almost50 (L-3)	innocentvillager, Casey, Isis, Chemical Elements, Nono
spicer1209 (L-4)	Chemical Elements, Marksman, Casey, hellbooks
Chemical Elements (L-4)	innocentvillager, hellbooks, Hayasaka, Isis
hellbooks (L-4)	Hiraki, Elements, Isis, Almost50
innocentvillager (L-4)	Marksman, Lavender, Chemical Elements, Isis
Isis (L-5)	Marksman, Chemical Elements, Elements
Elements (L-5)	Casey, Hiraki, Marksman
Lavender (L-6)	innocentvillager, Chemical Elements
Hiraki (L-6)	Marksman, Casey
Hayasaka (L-6)	innocentvillager, hellbooks
Casey (L-6)	innocentvillager, Isis
Marksman (L-7)	Hiraki
Not Voting (2)	spicer1209, Hayasaka

With 14 alive, it's 8 to dunk on someone.
(expired on 2020-08-16 14:58:59) until Carousel.

[Ruby Red]

Prodding spicer1209 and Hayasaka.

[Almost50]

he totally impresses me

You're playing a dangerous game, baby.

[Almost50]

towny thing 2 say

I know it's well past the time to discuss that for "scum hunting purposes", but I beg to differ on principle. "It's not fair for all to confirm VTs" in an open setup that is confirmed to have no PRs is

totally NAI

in my book. It was an obvious joke. I didn't mind Hiraki reading into it because.. it's Hiraki, but I found it odd that you "agreed" and without elaboration on the spot.

Let me ask you this: In another game.. a normal closed setup game.. would be townie to say "it's not fair if we all confirmed our alignments as town"?? Does you (or anybody else) confirming your role/alignment in-thread really count as "confirming" at all?? Well, THAT -my friend- is my point.

[Chemical Elements]

Don't worry, I can speak English quite well.

別担心，我可以說英語。

Can you speak Aleut?? If so, consider me asking you -in Aleut- why you picked these specific people to vote at once.

No. I don't speak Aleut, so I will treat it as though you asked me in Mandarin and reply to you in Mandarin and English, so I can be understood. They were all random votes.

我不會說阿留申語。因此，我會假設你用華語問我那個問題并且用華語和英語回答所以其他人可以明白我。那些票都是隨意的。

[Almost50]

@Almost50: You know you're perfectly welcome to call can call us women. Or ladies. Heck even gals. But do you call your guy friends the males? Sheesh.

free town points to casey 4 this

And you're doing it again. Calling something TOTALLY NAI a town move. Maybe I have a clash of playstyle with you too? maybe I landed in the wrong planet altogether? My destination was set to the PLANET OF APES. What planet am I currently on right now?

Also, that was AP talking back there..

Spoiler:

[Chemical Elements]

@Almost50: You know you're perfectly welcome to call can call us women. Or ladies. Heck even gals. But do you call your guy friends the males? Sheesh.

free town points to casey 4 this

And you're doing it again. Calling something TOTALLY NAI a town move. Maybe I have a clash of playstyle with you too? maybe I landed in the wrong planet altogether? My destination was set to the PLANET OF APES. What planet am I currently on right now?

Also, that was AP talking back there..

Spoiler:

On which planet do you think Stephen Powell is a human and not an ape?

[Chemical Elements]

Wait, humans are apes.

[Elements]

I think it seems a bit unfair if we all confirm vt

I know this is going to be look like fluff (or someone is going to call it forced..), but ANYWAY; I want to know what you meant here (if it was a joke, just say so).

P-edit: Oh. OK. I'll check that one in a bit.

not entirely sure why it matters but it was a joke

[Elements]

I think A50 is town

[Almost50]

Check out the RULES' spoiler quoted below and have a look at the Voting: section item no. 4. According to this ruling by Ruby Red, it is impossible for a double elimination to occur by chance.

You misunderstand. Hiraki got me right. It is 8 to dunk now. Once someone has been dunked it becomes 7 to dunk (13 players after one dunk). If someone is sitting @L-1 NOW they will be automatically dunked next because THE VOTES WILL STAY THE SAME. The ONLY way they don't get dunked is if the first person dunked was voting them (That was they still are @L-1 because the dead player's vote had been auto-revoked).

Theoretically, we could put EVERYONE @L-1 NOW, and then we can hammer one person, and we will all fall down like dominoes from then on.

[Almost50]

My opinion on the matter is that what you observed may be sheer coincidence.

Which one of my like.. 8 observations are you referring to?

[Almost50]

I think it seems a bit unfair if we all confirm vt

I know this is going to be look like fluff (or someone is going to call it forced..), but ANYWAY; I want to know what you meant here (if it was a joke, just say so).

P-edit: Oh. OK. I'll check that one in a bit.

not entirely sure why it matters but it was a joke

Tell it to the people who were TRing you based off it.

[Almost50]

I think A50 is town

I don't mind being TR'd explicitly in this setup. Since scum have no NK I don't need to worry about being overly TR'd.

[Chemical Elements]

Check out the RULES' spoiler quoted below and have a look at the Voting: section item no. 4. According to this ruling by Ruby Red, it is impossible for a double elimination to occur by chance.

You misunderstand. Hiraki got me right. It is 8 to dunk now. Once someone has been dunked it becomes 7 to dunk (13 players after one dunk). If someone is sitting @L-1 NOW they will be automatically dunked next because THE VOTES WILL STAY THE SAME. The ONLY way they don't get dunked is if the first person dunked was voting them (That was they still are @L-1 because the dead player's vote had been auto-revoked).

Theoretically, we could put EVERYONE @L-1 NOW, and then we can hammer one person, and we will all fall down like dominoes from then on.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Chemical Elements]

My opinion on the matter is that what you observed may be sheer coincidence.

Which one of my like.. 8 observations are you referring to?

"The "trio" of IV/Casey/Isis/CE are on BOTH lurker wagons (calling my slot a lurker before I joined in) which suggests either town with the firm belief scum are lurking, or scum trying to save their pal."

I was referring to this, but on rereading I have reinterpreted the part of your post where you say "amd I don't know what to make of this." as only referring to the last item and not the first.

[WeyounsLastClone]

Um... I've just checked your topics. Did you really stop playing since 2012? Is this your first game in 8 years?? Geez! I seem to ALWAYS have a playstyle clash with the "old guard", so..

Yeah, not sure if a Nightless maffia was the best to get back into the game . Kinda confused what leads to go on and trying to find inconsistencies, but with no night actions and just wagons evolving and devolving that's more difficult than I expected. I tend to be suspicious of the more random posts like Nono (and initially hellbooks), or lurkers (like ileilei and spicer) as especially in this game with no deadlines scum could just wait, ask for replacement, wait, ask for replacement. If we purely judge by content, and there is none, they shouldn't be fully safe.

Since ileilei is replaced by you, I guess I can at least say that you're not lurking, maybe even post a bit too much Is that your typical playstyle?

[Marksman]

UNVOTE: Isis

She's probably right about inno TMIing spicer and I shouldn't be thinking that's towny.

[Casey]

A50, you creepy AF, man.

Lavender makes me feel sad.

On the very contrary, I am actually becoming a bid fan of hers. I think I'm going to join more games with her because she makes laugh (she kinda reminds me of my sister-in-law whom I just adore)

[Marksman]

Inclined to agree on A50-town. There's some posts that are weird like when he says "I know you're probably joking but this is really scummy" or something along those lines, and calling my call to dunk soon a scumclaim and then immediately going back on that, but there's flashes of cityness in there as well.

I'm still of the opinion we should dunk like right about now btw. Isn't it better to have more time later with flips, rather than on D1 when we have the least info?