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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:30 pm

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what's the other game you have on scum!me?
i guess you don't have to answer that if you don't want to out your main but i'm not sure what the one prior to lunacy was
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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:32 pm

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I don't know if I would say I'm "intimately familiar" and idk if I would say skitter was aggro in city either
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:33 pm

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eh it was representative of my current capacity/tendencies as scum tho
idk if aggro is the right word either
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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:34 pm

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In post 2025, skitter30 wrote:what's the other game you have on scum!me?
i guess you don't have to answer that if you don't want to out your main but i'm not sure what the one prior to lunacy was
I’m not sure if I can reference it specifically without outing my main but we also “collaborated” in that game. *hint* *hint* :lol:
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:34 pm

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fyi re: Lunacy, I was actually townreading skitter and then like secretly revoked that townread after nahdia/raven lhf shenanigans but I didn't really care about outing that in thread
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:36 pm

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I don't really like using meta as a principle and I don't think it's really a good enough argument for me to point to other games and be like "but this game is different from my play there!" because I think skitter would be capable of changing her play to not be the same as other games?
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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:36 pm

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In post 2027, skitter30 wrote:eh it was representative of my current capacity/tendencies as scum tho
idk if aggro is the right word either
If you still haven’t figured it out, you were hardpushing obvtown RCE in that.
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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:36 pm

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In post 2028, Raven Branwen wrote:I’m not sure if I can reference it specifically without outing my main but we also “collaborated” in that game. *hint* *hint*
right, that one.
that wasn't representative iirc
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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:45 pm

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In post 2032, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2028, Raven Branwen wrote:I’m not sure if I can reference it specifically without outing my main but we also “collaborated” in that game. *hint* *hint*
right, that one.
that wasn't representative iirc
Well I guess my only examples of witnessing your scumplay firsthand aren’t representative then. I still don’t get duckling’s confidence on scum!you here. I’m trying to determine if he honestly convinced you’re lockscum here or he’s scum pushing you in bad faith.
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:47 pm

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raven, are you townreading me rn?
and if yes, is it largely cuz i'm different than lunacy?
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:52 pm

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I can't imagine that meta from a bastard game such as that is all that good
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:53 pm

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In post 2022, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2017, the worst wrote:i feel like i've explained why skitter is my #1 scumread in quite a lot of detail u_u
Can you give me the sparknotes
chapter by chapter or overarching themes?

her play this game isn't approaching from a solving perspective. she's more focused with occupying the thread & looking like she has real good great opinions than with pushing slots who are actually readable.

her push on me felt awkward & at a time when I don't think town!skitter actually scumreads me but was also like very strikingly a point where the POE pool was starting to shrink to an unmanageable state.

since I called this out skitter has been more interested in winning this conversation & like ~coexisting~ with other slots than sorting and I'm pretty sure it's coming from a perspective of not being confident about how to steer a gamestate where it's very hard to get mis-elims on most players (save like, at the time she could have gone for dsj but I think dsj WAS lhf and is getting progressively townier)

to summarise it I feel like she's not trying to solve this game & she's opportunistic in ways which are pinging me as consistent with how scum would be handling this gamestate/plist.
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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:56 pm

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In post 2034, skitter30 wrote:raven, are you townreading me rn?
and if yes, is it largely cuz i'm different than lunacy?
I have a bit of a townlean on you. That as well as that other game. I think you did some scummy things in that other game that were similar to your D1 play in Lunacy. I already mentioned your bad RCE push for example.
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:59 pm

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Raven I have this sinking feeling like you're going to read me wrong this game.
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:05 pm

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@tw i don't know if your assessment is, like, entirely wrong (wrt to, say, coexisting), but i also think you're ascribing scum motivation that doesn't, like, exist!
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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:08 pm

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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:56 pm

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In post 2038, the worst wrote:Raven I have this sinking feeling like you're going to read me wrong this game.
I just don’t see how Skitter is your #1 sr. Okay, link me games where she played exactly like this then? Because there are better votes today. You must acknowledge at least that much. I think it’s a terrible idea to risk misexecuting Skitter, possibly you too but less confident on that. Maybe, because you sound so sincere but resigned. But then that could still be in your scumrange. It wouldn’t be the first time you’ve fooled me and you were super obvscum in Starcraft. I 100% would have voted you too if A50 wasn’t so terrified of the NK.
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:57 pm

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skitter regularly adapts her meta i am not going to bind a game where she's exactly the same as here
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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:58 pm

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i don't think i'm capable of the same level of scumplay as i was in starcraft rn i'm TiRed
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:00 pm

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In post 2021, skitter30 wrote:indeed! and i'm going to like Shut This Down and Will Not Be Eliminated today as i think like 6/9 of the current pl is intimately familiar with my scumgame and should be able to tell this isn't it
(including yourself! cept you're a scumduck who's pushing me anyways, which is a Sad but Noble pursuit that will ultimately be unfulfilling)
this is my first game with you but considering the vast amounts of praise DonC had for your scum-game, I'm going to assume that you are some kind of scum-goddess who can can meta-wifom and come up with all sorts of "I wouldn't do this because of ____" and as a result I wouldn't really give you any towncredit for it. It's much easier to towncred a weaker player for slips but I don't see how they would apply to you.
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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:00 pm

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

scum!skitter picking a fight with me over nothing (which she ADAMANTLY INSISTS is not within her scum m.o. lol).

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=150&t=81720
skitter reacting to epic big fights with a similar level of sincerity (i.e. it is within her scumrange); i also think her play here disrgearding the fight reactions in general has been along a similar path of trying to feel out the gamestate and react with what looks good rather than find scum.
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:01 pm

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@pooky
just re-stating: i have like no hesitance in saying skitter is probably the overall-best player active onsite rn, across both alignments. she's also not polarised (i.e. neither alignment is overwhelmingly better than the other, which is often the case for players at rand)
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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:02 pm

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like when I was talking to you earlier about how I thought you were probably definitely town and you started telling me about how all these reasons didn't apply - it felt like that scene from Jungle Book where Mowgli is talking to Kaa.
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:02 pm

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In post 2047, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like when I was talking to you earlier about how I thought you were probably definitely town and you started telling me about how all these reasons didn't apply - it felt like that scene from Jungle Book where Mowgli is talking to Kaa.
this made me do like a laughsnort thing
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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:02 pm

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